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 Necros wrote:

I have some other characters planned that are based on other things, but they might actually be better off for the Weird West game. Like Ashford Campbell would be a better monster hunter...

Groovy!

I still think he might make a great stretch goal for this campaign!

I could see Crisco Township, Senior making a good character for the Weird West game.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I could see Crisco Township, Senior making a good character for the Weird West game.

I'm sad to admit I forgot about that series - and I really loved it too...

Good call there!

There's a reason why there aren't many big game kickstarters up right now.... It seems silly to launch a Kickstarter for something in the Nov/Dec time frame that isn't set to be delivered during the holidays. Just another reason why you should have waited until you had delivered on the original project.

Now onto something slightly more constructive....

Your original project had 248 backers, of those backers 241 of them were getting atleast one box set. 94 of those backers were getting one box set, 97 of those backers were getting two box sets, 15 backers were getting three box sets and 31 backers were getting all four. The point is, is that 97% of the backers from the original project already got their choice of their favorite gang.... Realistically you should be trying to pull those 248 backers from the original project back into your new project. The problem is, is that 97% of those original backers already have what they want most out of your 4 basic unlocked crews.

On to my next point... The Widowmakers... Why for flip sake is this "Stretch Goal" locked? First off, its unlocked if you meet your funding goal which makes locking it pointless. unlocking it from the getgo makes a backer feel like they have more choices. Second... Nevermind...

Next point - The $90 Reward Level... All this is doing is taking away $10 a pop from your project total. You need a "Best Value" reward level that you quitely push the majority of backers into, the $90 level takes attention away from the $100 level which should be your sweet spot.

Last point - Your higher level Rewards don't really work if the backer backed your first project... The availbe crew options just aren't avalible, and unless this projects greatly surpasses its funding levels your going to have alot of your higher level backers either switching to lower teirs or abandoning the project completly.

I'd like to give a word of advice - Instead of saying blah blah blah monsters blah blah blah zombies blah blah blah future, focus on this campaign and getting your previous campaign shipped.

I was going to have Ashford originally come from Brisco County in his fluff Or Crisco works too.

Never saw that show though.. wanted to, but it's not on Netflix right now


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All valid points. I guess they were just trying to say "you can add the widowmakers when the project gets funded" but it does make more sense for them to not be labeled as locked, so our first stretch is actually Dr. Kilmer. So I'll get them to fix that.

I agree about the $90 level, but we have 2 backers in there now so we can't change it.

I am a little concerned that people will drop at the end if the gang they want isn't unlocked. Just gotta hope at this point that we do get as much unlocked as we can I guess. Once the Game Salute gang gets back from BGG con in the next day or 2 we'll be going over the details and see what else we can afford to unlock ahead of time.

I'm still following this with great interest (literally checking the KS twice a day to see the new total). I would think even being able to unlock another crew at 10k would be a big boost to the campaign. Because it would mean more non duplicate choices for those that backed the original KS. Since I missed out on the first one, the $100-120 value is still a fantastic deal for me, so I'm not complaining by any stretch, but I'm also really hoping this reaches the unlock for the Tranquility Crew.

I'm confident we'll get to the Tranquility Crew I mean, the campaign is only 5 days old.. 8k in 5 days ain't bad at all. We're getting into the slow middle of the campaign part now though. Once it funds we'll do another news site update all around the web and I think more new backers will want to join an already funded campaign. We probably should have made the goal $5000 instead of 10, but too late now. I'm happy with the progress and we'll do what we can with what we get Whatever doesn't get covered in the campaign will get made soon after anyway

 Necros wrote:
I was going to have Ashford originally come from Brisco County in his fluff Or Crisco works too.

Never saw that show though.. wanted to, but it's not on Netflix right now


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All valid points. I guess they were just trying to say "you can add the widowmakers when the project gets funded" but it does make more sense for them to not be labeled as locked, so our first stretch is actually Dr. Kilmer. So I'll get them to fix that.

I agree about the $90 level, but we have 2 backers in there now so we can't change it.

I am a little concerned that people will drop at the end if the gang they want isn't unlocked. Just gotta hope at this point that we do get as much unlocked as we can I guess. Once the Game Salute gang gets back from BGG con in the next day or 2 we'll be going over the details and see what else we can afford to unlock ahead of time.

You would have been better off following the same model for KS that Relic Knights used, i.e. 80% of the factions were already unlocked. Your stretch goals then would have been to flesh out the factions and let the campagin build upon itself.

Like it or not your no longer a loveable up and comeing game designer/publisher. Instead your a face for a known publisher so alot of the goodwill you would have gotten is gone...

 Necros wrote:
I was going to have Ashford originally come from Brisco County in his fluff Or Crisco works too.

Never saw that show though.. wanted to, but it's not on Netflix right now

Falls under the same problems that you'll have finding "Space: Above and Beyond", notably that Fox are jerks.

You're honestly better off buying the DVD boxed set for Brisco County Junior, as when Netflix had them a few years back they were all out of sorts with nothing indicating the air dates/order they were intended to be viewed in. The episodes were aired out of order on Fox, much like Firefly did.

Wait, you guys are doing a Weird West game? So, basically a Deadlands minis game? Sweet. If there is a KS for that one, count me in.

I am trying to convince my wife that it would be a good idea to jump in on this one, but not sure if she will let me with all the other holiday spending, and having just spent a bunch of cash on Adepticon.

Any chance you guys will be at Adepticon with some of your stuff for demo games?


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I was going to have Ashford originally come from Brisco County in his fluff Or Crisco works too.

Never saw that show though.. wanted to, but it's not on Netflix right now

Falls under the same problems that you'll have finding "Space: Above and Beyond", notably that Fox are jerks.

You're honestly better off buying the DVD boxed set for Brisco County Junior, as when Netflix had them a few years back they were all out of sorts with nothing indicating the air dates/order they were intended to be viewed in. The episodes were aired out of order on Fox, much like Firefly did.

Netflix did this with Til Death as well. That show is completely out of order on there, with episodes from every season sort of jumbled together. Very noticible on there, as they changed out the actor that played the daughter a couple of times, and it pops back and forth between the 3 girls a lot with bouncing around episodes.

I'm all souped up for this to blow past 10K... come on pledgers!

I've been eyeing the Sarissa line of buildings, figured I could get a bundle of shacks for houses, and their brick buildings for a more "civilised" downtown area.

That and a steampunk outfit for comiccon...

Bad, bad man you are.


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By the way, one of those 90$ backers was me, and I fixed it, I uped to the 100$ level, plus the buildings.

Yep, the game world will be turning Weird Never played Deadlands but from what know about it yeah there will be similarities. Right now we're trying to decide if we want to go for the big box set kind of thing like Zombicide or Sedition wars (which will cost a lot to make) or do it more like an expansion where we do a small mini campaign book and then release a few new themed starters and support packs. We will probably go with the latter since it will be easier to do. Will be a while before we jump in to that though, we're going to make sure this campaign is totally done first

And yeah Sarissa does some nice kits. I have a few of them, I really like the adobe buildings.


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awesome, thanks

Turns out I will own some wild west buildings from Gamecraft, Burn In Design and Sarissa when all is said and done. I guess I could do a review and pros and cons.

I can tell right now that the windows from Sarissa look better than from Gamecraft. Little details, but still.

Yeah the one thing with GameCraft is they don't have interiors, that's what makes them cheaper than others. You can add in an optional floor piece though.

Battle Flag is also really nice, maybe a little pricier depending on the building but they have lots of great detail

Yes, they all look gorgeous, but I'm still on an "on call" basis regarding my income, so I don't think I'd take the risk of missing a payment on my cards... besides, I'd rather give you some money, if you don't mind

Any news on the printing?

I'll know more about the printing later today or tomorrow. Game Salute's boss was away at the board game geek con this weekend, so he should just be getting back today.

I was just going over all of the box set details with their warehouse guy yesterday, so they can have everything organized and ready to go when the boxes arrive.

So, I'll have an update / eta shortly


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Ding! We're funded Dr. Kilmer is now unlocked

Oh lordy lord that reshuffle has got me in all kinds of hoots! The new bonus figures you have just revealed (well, sorta) are just going to be so characterful that I do hope we get to 50K.

This should, if anything, seriously push it.

Yep we were going over the goals and figured that since Father al, Marshall Stewart, Nevada Dave and the Dockside Drifters were getting made no matter what, that we should just have them unlocked anyway. Those were all models that the high lever backers got to design in the last campaign.

So now we have lots more unlocked and a whole lot of new concept art to do

Looks like it worked though, pledges shot up today by a lot

Glad to see you made the main goal, and working towards the next gang (cause the middle goal will get hit)

Yeah I'm pretty excited now

I don't think we'll have any problems getting to $20,000.. though the next couple of days might slow down a bit thanks to the holiday. Can't wait to stuff my face with stuffing tomorrow!

You guys are so slow. We had our Thanksgiving weeks ago!

Just posted a new updated for the old campaign

First of all, Happy Thanksgiving!

Now down to business. We just heard from the printer about the status of everything, and here's what they said:

Quick update on your order. We're gluing the boxes and binding the books. Everything else is printed and completed. We hope to ship by Wednesday.

Today is a Wednesday, but I'm going to assume they meant next wednesday. They are in New York, the warehouse is in New Hampshire. I'm hoping Game Salute will have the boxes and everything there at the warehouse by next Friday. Then they just have to pack up all the sets and ship em out! And once again, I'm really sorry it's taken so long.

Next order of business. Some still owe for shipping for those of you that didn't add it to your original pledge. What's going to happen is in the next week or so, Game Salute will be sending you a Paypal invoice for the shipping charge you still owe, if you owe one. Once they get the payment they'll pack up and ship your order! If you don't hear from them, you don't owe anything

Now that the light is at the end of the tunnel, please let me know ASAP if you have any questions or changes for your order. Like if you would like to select a different starter set for example. You can send me a message on Kickstarter, or email me.

We're almost there. Thanks so much for your patience!

We now have a new, official game forum right here on Dakka

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/forums/show/84.page

This will be the official forum for the game, so I'll be taking down my old one.

So I'll be keeping this news post here most mostly just posting new announcements and stuff here and answering questions, and general chattyness will go in the new forum. I'll also be making a post over there all about what we're planning for the next expansion with the weird west stuff

Wyatt, Kilmer, and Nevada Dave unlocked? Looks like Ill be in for the 3 bonus figure pledge.

Thanks!

And we just unlocked Wayne Duke too

I got my models from the first Kickstarter! I opted to forgo the printed box since I really only cared about getting the figures so I let Necros know and he had the models shipped out to me. I'm looking forward to getting some paint on these once life calms down a bit, but I'm excited to have them in my hands at least!

Sensible. Makes little sense to wait for stuff that will end up in the recycling anyway. But aren't there supposed to be stat cards with the minis? Will you be printing those yourself, or will Necros send them later?

Hmmm... That's a good question. There weren't any in the box so I wasn't sure if they were supposed to actually be included with the models or not.

No the naked minis offer was just naked minis.. however you can either download the PDF cards for the gang off my website, or if you really want the actual cards we can send them to you when we get em