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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 17:37:06
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $30k reached - Wilde's Rangers unlocked!
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Necros wrote:We'll still get Shamus done  In fact I just sent the pics for Clint, Doc & Shamus off to Brother Vinni 
I know... but another $3500 and I'd have gotten him for free. LOL
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 17:45:42
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I just finished assigning all the sculpts  Trying to have the same person do everything for 1 box set so they will all match better.
Ian Mountain is doing Dr. Kilmer & Rooster Morrison
Pedro Ramos is doing Nevada Dave, Father Al and Marshall Stewart
Brother Vinni doing Doc, Shamus & Clinton
Bob Naismith is doing the Dockside Drifters
And then I have 3 new sculptors
James Van Schaik doing the Tranquility Crew
Doug Hamilton doing the Widowmakers
Steven Eserin doing Wilde's Rangers (but Bob already did the gatling gun 3D model)
This just leaves the secret fist, still deciding who to give them too.. didn't think they would get unlocked
With the 3D guys I'm having them develop a standard set of weapons so in the future everything will match better, we can get 3D prints / resin casts of the weapons done for traditional sculptors to include in their greenstuffing later on too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 20:47:35
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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I was thinking of getting those exact 3 gangs, so, this is good news!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 20:52:39
Subject: Re:Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Congats Necros!
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Any resemblance of this post to written English is purely coincidental.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 21:34:25
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Dakka Veteran
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Alpharius wrote:I was thinking of getting those exact 3 gangs, so, this is good news!
Stop copying me!!!!
Well, I guess I am copying you since you posted first.
Man, I want James' SM Sgt., too bad it was only a test sculpt.
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"This thread is made of so much unrefined awesome spice, the Harkonnens are coming." -Frazzled
"After all, the Space Marines need something to fight against, and it can't always be Chaos!" -Phil Kelly |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 23:38:06
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Those are the three gangs I want as well... but I feel cheap for not getting any of the original ones too.
Well, Game Salute will be selling them so I can entice my friends to play the game with that... do we know what retail will be like?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/07 00:07:36
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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[DCM]
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I'll pick up some of the original gangs later too.
Need some 'bad guys' after all...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/07 00:40:54
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Well, the good news is, I was expecting the starter sets to all be $35 each, but Game Salute was able to order enough printed things to get the costs down so they'll be $30
Wilde's Rangers will probably be more though, since it will come with the gatling gun.. no idea yet how much that one will be
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/07 13:53:38
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Awesome news!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 03:03:18
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Can you repost that the new forum address to discuss the game itself and all its sundries?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 03:14:18
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:Can you repost that the new forum address to discuss the game itself and all its sundries? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum, Scroll down.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/09 03:14:40
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 03:24:08
Subject: Re:Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Dakka Veteran
Las Vegas, NV, USA
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"This thread is made of so much unrefined awesome spice, the Harkonnens are coming." -Frazzled
"After all, the Space Marines need something to fight against, and it can't always be Chaos!" -Phil Kelly |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 05:18:11
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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I know its too late for the Kickstarter, but how about a special character based on El Mariachi, the character Antonio Banderas plays in the Desperado & Once Upon a Time in Mexico trilogy?
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 18:57:06
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Yeah I was thinking of doing a 3 man " Los Mariachis" support pack for the Bandidos.. where they're all like Antonio
Funny story, at my day job we had a from Brazil named Antonio Bandera .. someone gave him a puss in boots figure, but he didn't get the joke..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:21:35
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Well, it you're doing 3 packs, what about The Three Amigos?
That would be fun.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 04:21:54
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Could get to them some day too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 20:29:51
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd love to see a wrassler figure inspired by Cactus Jack at some point. A three pack could be Cactus Jack, The Undertaker and maybe Hacksaw Jim Dugan, or Dusty Rhodes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 21:58:50
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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What about Cowboy Bob Orton?
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 19:08:18
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I just updated the PDF rulebook. The old version was almost an exact copy of what our printed rulebook will look like, but wasn't exactly inkjet-printer-friendly being full color. So, I updated the "Web Rulebook" to be a more plain text version, with just a few photos and diagrams. This will be a lot easier on your printers, and also be easier to read on your screen or handheld devices / tablets. You can download the updated rulebook PDF on my website here:
http://blackwatergulch.com/blog/blackwater-gulch-preview-rules/
That being said, Game Salute has just launched the Blackwater Gulch section of their online store. You can pre-order all of our starter sets plus the new full color printed rulebook. Check it out:
http://shop.gamesalute.com/collections/front-page-1/gangfight-game-studio
The original starter sets will be available for retail in January, and the sets from the new Kickstarter will be available "this summer"
With this new rulebook update, there was only 1 minor rules change regarding attacking with two 1-handed weapons. Basically, when you attack with 2, your first attack will be made like a normal attack with the usual To Hit target number. Your second attack will be at a +1 To Hit. The old method was both attacks would be at a +1 To Hit. I changed it because it seemed like if you managed to take out your target with the first shot, and didn't need to make a 2nd shot, then you shouldn't have been penalized for only shooting once. So this way seemed more fair. Anyway, this rule is also reflected in the printed rulebook, I just didn't have a chance to update the web rules till now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 19:13:40
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Necros wrote:I just updated the PDF rulebook. The old version was almost an exact copy of what our printed rulebook will look like, but wasn't exactly inkjet-printer-friendly being full color. So, I updated the "Web Rulebook" to be a more plain text version, with just a few photos and diagrams. This will be a lot easier on your printers, and also be easier to read on your screen or handheld devices / tablets. You can download the updated rulebook PDF on my website here:
http://blackwatergulch.com/blog/blackwater-gulch-preview-rules/
That being said, Game Salute has just launched the Blackwater Gulch section of their online store. You can pre-order all of our starter sets plus the new full color printed rulebook. Check it out:
http://shop.gamesalute.com/collections/front-page-1/gangfight-game-studio
The original starter sets will be available for retail in January, and the sets from the new Kickstarter will be available "this summer"
With this new rulebook update, there was only 1 minor rules change regarding attacking with two 1-handed weapons. Basically, when you attack with 2, your first attack will be made like a normal attack with the usual To Hit target number. Your second attack will be at a +1 To Hit. The old method was both attacks would be at a +1 To Hit. I changed it because it seemed like if you managed to take out your target with the first shot, and didn't need to make a 2nd shot, then you shouldn't have been penalized for only shooting once. So this way seemed more fair. Anyway, this rule is also reflected in the printed rulebook, I just didn't have a chance to update the web rules till now 
Any idea when we can expect the stuff from the original kickstarter to ship?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 19:16:23
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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James Van Schaik is a genius as far as I'm concerned. I'll definitely be buying this set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 20:05:43
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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The ETA is "we're working on it" .. But I think they're packing up the orders about now, been getting a lot of emails from them about what this or that pledge level gets
Here's what I just got about the ETA from the warehouse manager
Your project requires quite a bit of work and materials have been coming in sporadically. It is in the queue and under way. This campaign is not typical so I can not estimate when it will complete. I will send you confirmation when the last packages are on the dock awaiting pick up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 20:09:18
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Necros wrote:The ETA is "we're working on it" .. But I think they're packing up the orders about now, been getting a lot of emails from them about what this or that pledge level gets
Here's what I just got about the ETA from the warehouse manager
Your project requires quite a bit of work and materials have been coming in sporadically. It is in the queue and under way. This campaign is not typical so I can not estimate when it will complete. I will send you confirmation when the last packages are on the dock awaiting pick up.
I appreciate the update, but its not that reassuring of a reply.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 20:17:18
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I know, wish I had better news :( Just hoping (praying) they'll have it all done soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 16:16:50
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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Catyrpelius wrote: Necros wrote:The ETA is "we're working on it" .. But I think they're packing up the orders about now, been getting a lot of emails from them about what this or that pledge level gets
Here's what I just got about the ETA from the warehouse manager
Your project requires quite a bit of work and materials have been coming in sporadically. It is in the queue and under way. This campaign is not typical so I can not estimate when it will complete. I will send you confirmation when the last packages are on the dock awaiting pick up.
I appreciate the update, but its not that reassuring of a reply.
Yeah, that pretty much translates to "dont hold your breath guy, its gonna be a real long time".
Bummer...but then again its been what, 8 or 9 months since the Kickstarter...are a few more weeks really going to matter?
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 19:24:03
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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When should we be expecting our pledge polls?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 21:34:26
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Not sure, I'll ask about the polls. I think they probably still haven't even gotten the funds yet, the last one took about 3 weeks for Amazon & Kickstarter to finish everything. I think they're also deciding if they want to do a pledge manager website or not.
In other news, got the first pics of one of the new minis  Here's Father Al from Pedro Ramos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 22:13:08
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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That was quick.
What about the Poles? Just don't ask the Russians.
Thank you ladies and gents, I'll be here all night...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 22:23:15
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Pedro is from spain  In addition to sculpting, he's also my translator for when I need something to sound Bandidoy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 22:42:40
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter - $41,596 final!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Necros wrote:The ETA is "we're working on it" .. But I think they're packing up the orders about now, been getting a lot of emails from them about what this or that pledge level gets
Here's what I just got about the ETA from the warehouse manager
Your project requires quite a bit of work and materials have been coming in sporadically. It is in the queue and under way. This campaign is not typical so I can not estimate when it will complete. I will send you confirmation when the last packages are on the dock awaiting pick up.
Necros, is it going to be different for the current campaign? I.e, when he says "your project requires quite a bit of work" and "this campaign is not typical so I can not estimate when it will complete", is there something different this time around that will make the turn-around time meet it's target from the Kickstarter?
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