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 BrookM wrote:
Another preview of the upcoming wave, with plenty of cards on display: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4236

Sensor jammer is interesting, kind of a combination of a weird "offensive" use of Luke's force ability combined with the Dark Curse's ability to prevent rerolls.

I like how they mentioned that the B-wing's systems are what gives this upgrade icon a reason to exist, and then 2 of the 3 come in the Lambda ship .

Looks like I'll need to pick up the Lambda if I want to run the B-wing

FFG have big issues with production, the PlastiResin they use is very finicky and this is the main hold up to faster production from what I hear from several sources. They are working hard to sort it, but it is new tech and it takes time... I actually applaud their QC and restraint not to let wonky models go through, even though they would sell.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
www.themetalbikini.com (fixed!) has great coverage on the new ships -

As to neg feedback, some feel the game is weighted towards the imperials at the beginner and mid levels, most experts seem to agree that it is well balanced though.

That and the inability of FFG to keep the game stocked...

And lack of STEMS!

But overall, very positive response both online and in person in my experience!

You mean people are finally listening to me frothing at the mouth that imperials are a stronger faction? Say it ain't so!
I need to find me a gaming group in my new area so I can convert more zombies, I mean, uh...gamers to the cause.

I'm beginning to see that Imperials are the better faction sadly, but I don't think that's going to really stop me from playing. I've played 5 games, and in all but one of the games, the Imperials have won (Although one of the games was Imps vs Imps). I've played 2 Obsidian Sqd. Pilots vs 2 Red Sqd Pilots and won, but when it was a fair fight points wise, the rebels couldn't hack it. Though I don't think I should count the game I had with Luke and Han vs Vader, Mauler, and Dark Curse even though I was like 20 points down as the imps.

FFG's release set-up really bugs me. I have no interest in playing Imperials whatsoever, yet I'm almost forced to collect them if I want to be competitive (at least until they hopefully release a card deck).

 MajorTom11 wrote:
FFG have big issues with production, the PlastiResin they use is very finicky and this is the main hold up to faster production from what I hear from several sources. They are working hard to sort it, but it is new tech and it takes time... I actually applaud their QC and restraint not to let wonky models go through, even though they would sell.

You can say that to the TIE Advanced I just unpacked - both the sides are on *so* crooked there's not an angle in the world you wouldn't notice it from :/ Best of all, good luck getting a replacement with any kind of speed with these supply issues.

I had an issue with the Tie Advanced where one of the stems broke off in the little holder for the Tie (the one from the ship). I glued it in place, now my Advanced can "fly under" some of the other ships (I'm looking at you falcon!). I did have to do that in my last game, where my dad flew his falcon over his x-wing and because their bases were supposed to be touching, but the falcon's immeasurable girth kept nudging the x-wing forward until I lowered it. Now I just give my ships different heights to add some "variety" to the game.

Hm, last tournament with twelf participants rebels and imperial were all over the place with regard to placing. Final after four rounds was even between rebels and imperial. Not much of a problem there.

But rebels are a little bit more difficult to play admittedly.

 Alfndrate wrote:
I'm beginning to see that Imperials are the better faction sadly, but I don't think that's going to really stop me from playing. I've played 5 games, and in all but one of the games, the Imperials have won (Although one of the games was Imps vs Imps). I've played 2 Obsidian Sqd. Pilots vs 2 Red Sqd Pilots and won, but when it was a fair fight points wise, the rebels couldn't hack it. Though I don't think I should count the game I had with Luke and Han vs Vader, Mauler, and Dark Curse even though I was like 20 points down as the imps.

I'd strongly disagree. In my equally anecdotal experience, the rebels have the "edge". Likely the true answer is it depends on the local scene and exactly who is playing rebels and imperials.

 warboss wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
I'm beginning to see that Imperials are the better faction sadly, but I don't think that's going to really stop me from playing. I've played 5 games, and in all but one of the games, the Imperials have won (Although one of the games was Imps vs Imps). I've played 2 Obsidian Sqd. Pilots vs 2 Red Sqd Pilots and won, but when it was a fair fight points wise, the rebels couldn't hack it. Though I don't think I should count the game I had with Luke and Han vs Vader, Mauler, and Dark Curse even though I was like 20 points down as the imps.

I'd strongly disagree. In my equally anecdotal experience, the rebels have the "edge".

That's fine, as I would hope they'd have the edge because that's who I want to play regardless. I'm just noting my experience. Granted, I've only played 5 games and I'm sure as the points level increase and the games increase, so too will the balance of who is "better" on paper.

Alfndrate wrote:I'm beginning to see that Imperials are the better faction sadly, but I don't think that's going to really stop me from playing. I've played 5 games, and in all but one of the games, the Imperials have won (Although one of the games was Imps vs Imps). I've played 2 Obsidian Sqd. Pilots vs 2 Red Sqd Pilots and won, but when it was a fair fight points wise, the rebels couldn't hack it. Though I don't think I should count the game I had with Luke and Han vs Vader, Mauler, and Dark Curse even though I was like 20 points down as the imps.

chaos0xomega wrote:FFG's release set-up really bugs me. I have no interest in playing Imperials whatsoever, yet I'm almost forced to collect them if I want to be competitive (at least until they hopefully release a card deck).

The Tournament results so far do not bear this out. Imperials are simpler and more out of the box easy to use. Rebels however, to an experienced player are very versatile. Most tournaments have been won by Rebels I believe as of this writing. As I said, some people complain Imperials are too strong, but they tend to be inexperienced players... like me... Rebels need a bit more finesse, but they can be very powerful too.

Bolognesus wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
FFG have big issues with production, the PlastiResin they use is very finicky and this is the main hold up to faster production from what I hear from several sources. They are working hard to sort it, but it is new tech and it takes time... I actually applaud their QC and restraint not to let wonky models go through, even though they would sell.

You can say that to the TIE Advanced I just unpacked - both the sides are on *so* crooked there's not an angle in the world you wouldn't notice it from :/ Best of all, good luck getting a replacement with any kind of speed with these supply issues.

Advanced and Interceptors are dirty easy to fix, snap off the solar panels, crazy glue them back on lined up, you'll be done in 60 seconds! Tie Fighters a bit trickier, have to be careful not to bed the struts...

My son and I played a little scenario last night with Lando piloting the Falcon eith two X-wings from red squardron backing him up versus Boba Fett and three Black Squadron Tie-fighters.

We set up on our dining room table and it is 2 1/2 " by 3 1/2". the Slave-1 and the three Ties on one on the short edges in the 3 zone facing the table edge and set the Falcon and X-wings in zone 3 on the opposite side facing into the table center...

We made a "what - if" scenario.

What if Leia had her own escape off of cloud city and Lando and Chewie got away in the falcon backed up by some pilots from Red Squadron. Chewie is determined to rescue Han from Boba Fett and has given chase off planet.

The objective for the Falcon was to destroy the Ties and "tail" the Slave 1 for at least 2 consecutive rounds--thus forcing Boba Fett to jettison Solo and make his escape.
The objective for Fett was to destroy the X-wings and escape off the Falcons board edge before turn 10.

The Falcon put up a great fight and Fett actually tailed the Falcon for two turns before the Falcon made a desperate move across the table at speed 3 and was able to leave the Slave 1 just out of his forward fire arc and lit him up with the turret weapon.

Great game!!
Looking forward to some different ships as well guys -- how cool would The Outrider be? Dash Rendars ship from Shadows of the Empire?

FFG do realise that once the X wing game on Tabletop is released, their supply issues are going to get MUCH worse, right?

Wha?

Err, sorry. Typing faster than brain.

 Compel wrote:
FFG do realise that once the X wing episode on Tabletop is released, their supply issues are going to get MUCH worse, right?

Still not sure what you mean, what is the X-wing Episode?

I'd like to see more of the other Bounty Hunters' ships, personally.

Bossk, Zuckuss, IG-88, and the rest of them had some pretty cool ships.

Hey Major Tom--

How do you do your oil washes on your ships?
Do you use an oil out of the tube and thin with paint thinner and just wash on and back wipe?

 MajorTom11 wrote:

Bolognesus wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
FFG have big issues with production, the PlastiResin they use is very finicky and this is the main hold up to faster production from what I hear from several sources. They are working hard to sort it, but it is new tech and it takes time... I actually applaud their QC and restraint not to let wonky models go through, even though they would sell.

You can say that to the TIE Advanced I just unpacked - both the sides are on *so* crooked there's not an angle in the world you wouldn't notice it from :/ Best of all, good luck getting a replacement with any kind of speed with these supply issues.

Advanced and Interceptors are dirty easy to fix, snap off the solar panels, crazy glue them back on lined up, you'll be done in 60 seconds! Tie Fighters a bit trickier, have to be careful not to bed the struts...

you sure you can just snap those panels off without snapping said panels in half? Hmmkay then, off I'll go tonight

Has anyone tried to duplicate any of the terrain from the game Rouge Squadron?

How about games on an airless moon?

OR

Maybe an escort mission on an inhabited planet?

Any idea approximately what scale the ships are in?

Abteilung oils (though most artist quality oils would do) and white mineral spirits

More than that, it is quite an indepth question as to the technique of how to apply, I highly suggest checking youtube, there are a ton of good tutorials... though technically, the ships are so small you don't have to do much other than manage the opacity with thinner -

AAAHHHH mineral spirits....Good call.
Ive done work with oils but it was a while ago and I couldnt remember what the thinning agent was.
Thanks Tom!
By the way -- Your re-paints are terrific!! I especially like your Red Squadrons re-paints!!

Tabletop is a board game show on youtube where they... play board games.

I dunno if this will let me do timestamps, but this is back in May and it's 27 seconds in....




"Next week, we expected to show you Star Wars X-Wing but well, something came up that I can't tell you about. But we're going to have to run Star Wars X Wing later in the season. All I can tell you about it is, it's going to be worth the wait."

It's still to come... I still am guessing that the big announcement is that Seth Green (one of the players in the episode), will be in the new movies.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Still not sure what you mean, what is the X-wing Episode?

I believe he's referring to Tabletop, the show on the YouTube Channel Geek and Sundry, in which Wil Wheaton plays games on a fantastic looking Geek Chic table. Most of these games sort of receive the "Tabletop Bump" in which people then go out any buy them because they see it being played, and see how much fun they are. I've bought a few games because of Tabletop and haven't really been led astray. With that being said, unless there is an X-Wing episode already filmed, I'm not sure how they're going to really market the game. The premise of the show revolves around Wil and 3 guests playing this game. Unless they do advanced play (i.e. list building) then it's not going to a good representation of the game if Wil is flying an X-wing, and 3 guests are huddled around trying to captain 2 Tie Fighters. Most of the things on Tabletop tend to use the board games as they are out of the box (notable exception being the Fiasco! episode where they used a scenario written by Wil).

Edit: IF they did indeed do an X-Wing game, I'd rather see Harrison Ford, Mark Hamil flying their respective "ships"

Edit the Second: Compel has proof they did shoot an X-Wing episode

 FarseerAndyMan wrote:
AAAHHHH mineral spirits....Good call.
Ive done work with oils but it was a while ago and I couldnt remember what the thinning agent was.
Thanks Tom!
By the way -- Your re-paints are terrific!! I especially like your Red Squadrons re-paints!!

Yeah, turpentine is too damn sticky and takes too long to dry, mineral spirits make the oil dry faster, are lower viscosity... really the only way to go with oils in my opinion. Also I have never had them effect paint underneath, whereas turpentine, you have to gloss or matte seal first. Thanks very much for the compliments

I never heard of the tabletop channel before, though I admit, I am not much for looking into too many games...

What kind of "bump" are they going to get from Tabletop?

There's nothing to buy!

It's already been filmed, with Seth Green and Clare Grant in it. They're doing it as 2 teams with the Millennium Falcon and possibly the Slave 1 being used.

 FarseerAndyMan wrote:


We set up on our dining room table and it is 2 1/2 " by 3 1/2". the Slave-1 and the three Ties on one on the short edges in the 3 zone facing the table edge and set the Falcon and X-wings in zone 3 on the opposite side facing into the table center...

Are you Borrowers?

A couple of places I've tried in the UK have had stock, is this an issue mostly US/Canada?

Have to say from my short experience of it so far it's an incredible fun game, miniatures are lovely (the pre-painted are perfectly adequate) - can't decide whether to get rebels or Imperials so I will probably get both!

Seems like the stock shortage is sharpest on the continent. I have not had trouble finding anything.