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There wasn't a fluff reason, I just wasn't sure if it was in the rules that 1 side was Imperial and 1 side was Rebels.

I've only played 2 games so far

 Alfndrate wrote:
There wasn't a fluff reason, I just wasn't sure if it was in the rules that 1 side was Imperial and 1 side was Rebels.

I've only played 2 games so far

You only play one list in tourneys, so mirror matches are relatively common. Doesn't seem to throw anything off gameplay wise, as long as you can live with Wedge gunning down Biggs you're golden!

Hey, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask this, but if a ship is hit by an ion cannon and loses a shield do they get an ion token or do they actually have to take damage from it?

 Monster Rain wrote:
Hey, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask this, but if a ship is hit by an ion cannon and loses a shield do they get an ion token or do they actually have to take damage from it?

There's a rules thread in Misc Miniatures, but to save hassle, you receive a token AND take 1 point of damage. Damage will be applied in the normal way, so if there are shields remaining, then one is lost, otherwise a damage card is dealt.

Here you go, MR:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/529887.page

Hey thanks, I'll head over to the other thread for that sort of thing in the future.

An ion token is applied even if the damage is cancelled by a shield. That's how we've been playing but I thought I'd run it by some of you fine folks.

 Monster Rain wrote:
Hey thanks, I'll head over to the other thread for that sort of thing in the future.

An ion token is applied even if the damage is cancelled by a shield. That's how we've been playing but I thought I'd run it by some of you fine folks.

Ah, suspect I see where the confusion has come from, shields don't cancel damage, they absorb it, losing a shield doesn't therefore cancel damage. The big advantage to shields over hull is simply that you can't receive crits on shield hits.

Ah, yes.

Shields cancel "damage", and not "hits". That makes perfect sense. Thanks!

Hey guys, this is slightly off-topic to new releases but is relavant to x-wing so I thought I would share as I came across a few things this week -

First, I had heard there was a big difference between launch wave core boxes and the newer reprints.

I can definitively say there is. The most obvious difference is build and paint quality, but more subtly there are mold differences too.

As you can see in the following pics, the engines, wings and guns on the 1st gen x-wing are quite badly glued and mis-aligned, the engines most obviously. The other ship is not stock painted but the build is unadjusted, and it is a reprint era ship.







The mold differences are hard to see in the pics (I only really noticed after when I was painting the other one) but if you look closely, the engines are a completely different mold, as are the wings. The most obvious thing is the missing 'z' shaped panel line in the rectangular plate transitioning the engine section to the wings.

What is the reason for posting this here? Well, I would advise you guys to look through the window on any sets you find and try to check if it is 1st gen or a reprint. The reprints are of subtle but tangibly superior quality. Not a huge deal, especially if you aren't nutty about your models but if you are, you can find better.

Next up, to the great A-wing debate as to whether the A-wing in the game is scale accurate. FFG says LucasArts verified the scale 100% accurate, but vs the movies, the A-wing is huge.This is mostly reposted from my P&M blog, but again pretty relavant in general to some discussions in this thread so bear with me!

I watched ROTJ this weekend, or at least I fast forwarded to the ship parts and I can say that in my opinion, it is without a doubt too big in the game. You can see in the deathstar core run, just by the spacing of the engines when the a-wing is behind the x-wing, it is a very small ship. This is also evident in several other scenes, including a scene where you see them in a hangar.

Just to be clear, this shouldn't matter one lick to the enjoyment of the game, which is awesome. You have to be a pretty hardcore scale nut to care, or accept LucasArts decided the movie scale is wrong. The good thing is, to those few who do have it bug em to no end like Insaniak, there is a viable, very cheap option!

Based on some threads and posts I found both elsewhere and here, I picked up some WOTC Star Wars Minis Starship Battles A-wings as a more size accurate option. They were dirt cheap on ebay, I got 5 for 20 bucks shipping in. As a fun little project, I decided to repaint them all in the same scheme as my 5 FFG a-wings, just to see what they would look like -

First, the bottom 2 ships in these pics are untouched, the top 3 have 1 coat of grey on em -





Here is a comparison of the Prototype schemed a-wings next to each other and an x-wing, looking at the cockpit, engines and weapons, the smaller version to me makes a lot more sense.







and some only smaller A-wings -







and a look at the paintjobs -





All in all, not sure which ones I will use, the FFG ships are of course nicer, but not by too much if you are willing to put some paint on em. The fronts are quite good, the engines are a bit worse, missing the detail of the angled winglets and the secondary rings. At the size though, no biggie.

Either way though, it was just a little project to have fun with and it certainly would not effect my enjoyment of this fantastic game.

My only real gripe with FFG, besides stock of course, is that they do not sell replacement ship bases and stems... If I could I would pick up like 100 stems to raise the height of all 40-50 ships! FFG, TAKE MY MONEY, PLEASE!

Tom...I think you need an intervention. Lol

Ya probably do... An intervention and STEMS!

You need to change your title from Acolyte of Goodwyn to, "Sith Lord of X-Wing" or something along those lines

It shouldn't be too hard to find a company that does stems of those dimensions and with those slots / attachment pieces though.

I haven't had any luck, believe me I looked... closest is Corsec but they are completely different, and don't feature the proprietary ends... if anyone see's any let me know for sure!

yeah,
I agree the WOTC ships look much better as they look 'more' correct in scale.
I will be getting some. Thanks for sharing.

Peeps will still have to buy the booster for the dial, base, base insert and upgrades.

Panic...

If you are only playing casual games there are ways around having to make the purchase for everything but the pilot cards, but if you are going to go anything but a DIY route then ya, you still need to buy the ship anyways.

The small ones are so cheap though that it isn't that bad at all to switch...

Good job on the repaints btw!

I've noticed the same thing on the newer wave 1 ships. I bought a Tie Fighter Expansion recently and it looks nicer than the original Tie Fighters, but in my opinion the biggest quality change is in the X-wings. For some reason the Tie Fighters have an almost negligible difference.

 Red Comet wrote:
Good job on the repaints btw!

I've noticed the same thing on the newer wave 1 ships. I bought a Tie Fighter Expansion recently and it looks nicer than the original Tie Fighters, but in my opinion the biggest quality change is in the X-wings. For some reason the Tie Fighters have an almost negligible difference.

Probably because the Tie fighters are 2 squares and a ball

But I've noticed that I have original, wave 1 xwings... *shrugs* It doesn't detract from me making pew pew sounds

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Red Comet wrote:
Good job on the repaints btw!

I've noticed the same thing on the newer wave 1 ships. I bought a Tie Fighter Expansion recently and it looks nicer than the original Tie Fighters, but in my opinion the biggest quality change is in the X-wings. For some reason the Tie Fighters have an almost negligible difference.

Probably because the Tie fighters are 2 squares and a ball

But I've noticed that I have original, wave 1 xwings... *shrugs* It doesn't detract from me making pew pew sounds

I concur. The Pew Pew is strong in my X-wings

The Tie only has 2 glue points, from what I can tell, the x-wing has/had more than 10, so that definitely presents a much greater QC obstacle. In any case, not a big deal either in and of myself, just something you can see before buying if it is on your mind!

 MajorTom11 wrote:
The Tie only has 2 glue points, from what I can tell, the x-wing has/had more than 10, so that definitely presents a much greater QC obstacle. In any case, not a big deal either in and of myself, just something you can see before buying if it is on your mind!

It is most likely something I will look for in the future, but it definitely shouldn't detract too much from someone buying this game.

No absolutely not. Buy the game! Play it! Talk about it in the sub-forums!

I think this is the best thing I've read in awhile, seriously go down to the Misc. Miniature Games Forum and start discussing this game!


Are there any shots/previews of the HWK-290 that I missed in this thread? I'm looking at the next few releases and hoping I can snag some rebel ships.


Has anyone actually seen negative comments about this game? Beyond issues of scale and differences in first run and second run ships?

It seems that most of the negative feedback on the BGG page for this game is due to it being a Wings of War rehash. It's a little weird... never having played Wings of War, the only thing my flgs owner and people could say is that it has less turns planning ahead, I frankly like the planning of movement before hand...

www.themetalbikini.com (fixed!) has great coverage on the new ships -

As to neg feedback, some feel the game is weighted towards the imperials at the beginner and mid levels, most experts seem to agree that it is well balanced though.

That and the inability of FFG to keep the game stocked...

And lack of STEMS!

But overall, very positive response both online and in person in my experience!

The lack of stock is my only major concern.

Please, FFG, please won't you take my money?

Wow.. so much useful information here and on the sub-forums!

Thanks a lot MajorTom and some of the other guys who have posted

 MajorTom11 wrote:
www.metalbikini.com has great coverage on the new ships -

Think this is the wrong link!

And so it is lol -

http://www.themetalbikini.com/

thank jeebus it was nothing worse than that lol on the bad link!

...Damn that was a disappointing wrong link

Another preview of the upcoming wave, with plenty of cards on display: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4236

It is not that FFG does not want your money.

Fact is that, sales are way beyond what anyone with some business-savyness could have anticipated. We are talking about whole full-size sea-containers being sold out within hours. And the game becoming more popular with the day does not help it either .

FFG does its best to rise the production levels, but there is only so much you can do.

Regarding size. The X-Wing A-Wing is the now resized actual design. The movie design was very cramped. The new is shown in pictures with a very spacious cockpit. Which is not unusual in the SW universe. Quite some ships got bigger when the technical handbooks came out and they had to put engines and all the stuff in there... A-wing is the one that the size change affected the most, but other also increased in size.