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 scarletsquig wrote:
I don't know who did the sculpt.

I'm fairly sure the model won't be one of the freebie characters since it isn't one of the five characters produced as part of the high-level pledges (so far we've seen the basilean lion rider and priest, but haven't seen any of the other hero freebies).

It's an extra sculpt released for the Kings and Legends supplement.

We have also seen a render for the female elohi/angel witch/wizard-ess

^ That's what I meant by the priest.

Squig, do you know if the Immortal Guard are being made in restic, or as a plastic sprue? Hoping for the latter, but I have no idea if that's a possibility or not.

Also, the Cat Cavalry - Interesting to know. Was hoping for something I could substitute as Demigryphs, but that's fine. Might need to do a bit of repositioning on the legs to make them look less horse like, but it is interesting to see them anyway.

I saw dwarven brock riders are listed in the latest update... do they have pics of the finalized and assembled models?

Nah, there is very little available photo wise at the moment for some of the other units, which is annoying.

I really wish they went with the lizard style concept they had earlier for the brock riders, looked sweet. Instead, it looks like angry attack badgers are the go.

Well, a 'brock' is a type of badger. So...

 judgedoug wrote:
Well, a 'brock' is a type of badger. So...

... that tells me almost nothing. Unless of course you have a picture of the real life badger large enough to hold the real life dwarf that the mantic sculptor used as a model that is... If all minis of the same name were identical, we really wouldn't need dozens of companies making elves, dwarves, and humans, would we? One would suffice and we wouldn't need any previews.

 warboss wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Well, a 'brock' is a type of badger. So...

... that tells me almost nothing. Unless of course you have a picture of the real life badger large enough to hold the real life dwarf that the mantic sculptor used as a model that is... If all minis of the same name were identical, we really wouldn't need dozens of companies making elves, dwarves, and humans, would we? One would suffice and we wouldn't need any previews.

It was in reference to the " really wish they went with the lizard style concept they had earlier " from Fenriswulf.

 judgedoug wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Well, a 'brock' is a type of badger. So...

... that tells me almost nothing. Unless of course you have a picture of the real life badger large enough to hold the real life dwarf that the mantic sculptor used as a model that is... If all minis of the same name were identical, we really wouldn't need dozens of companies making elves, dwarves, and humans, would we? One would suffice and we wouldn't need any previews.

It was in reference to the " really wish they went with the lizard style concept they had earlier " from Fenriswulf.

Ah, sorry, missed that middle post. I figured it was in response to my question about preview pics.

edit: As a side note, the actual badger was my least favorite of the three they showed (triceratops being the best IMO).

Yeah, that was the one I wanted as well. Kind of annoyed that didn't get picked. But as I don't play Dwarves, it was kind of moot for me.

Now I am actually wishing I had them as I could use them in my WoC army. Oh well, perhaps some other time.

Immortal Guard will be restic.

Cool, thanks dude. Was hoping we could get some more information out of Mantic. Any idea when we'll get some of the new pics in before the second pledge survey is sent out? Would really like to see exactly what is on the block, and hopefully soon.

IIRC they said they would try to show the most up to date pics before the survey is sent out.

Its Badger time!

I like the rider alot and the badger is nice.. but the triceratops would totally have kicked it's butt!

Harrumph... I suppose it's not bad, even though it's mo triceratops

 scarletsquig wrote:
Bazuzu the Vile:

I painted that. It's a lovely, lovely mini. The cracks and so forth are all sculpted on, and are very fine indeed; the model would stand to a £200 competition paintjob with no additional work whatsoever. That was just a quick character level job.

Not bad...

I like it though I also would have prefered a tiny dino

I still feel that Dino mount would be better suited for Abyssal Dwarfs or Twilight Kin.

 Cyporiean wrote:
I still feel that Dino mount would be better suited for Abyssal Dwarfs or Twilight Kin.

That is a good point but I feel like they also would have made for an interesting distinction between normal dwarven cavalry that rides mammals versus bezerkers that wrangle up and control reptiles. Maybe it will make a showing as an abyssal cavalry unit as I do recall seeing bezerkers a while back for that army as well (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). We've also had dozens of dwarves riding mammals over the past 20 years of tabletopgaming that I've participated in; to my knowledge, we've never had dwarven dino riders.

 Cyporiean wrote:
I still feel that Dino mount would be better suited for Abyssal Dwarfs or Twilight Kin.

I disagree, but on the basis that I think Mantic should exploit cave-dwelling lizards as a way to add more fantasy (and more speed given the nature of the KoW ruleset) to the Dwarf army list.

Love the brocks! Looking forward to them in the coming weeks.

Having seen it close up, I now really wish they had of gone with a Triceratops than this. The fur is very poorly sculpted, and is only rescued by a decent job on the dwarf.

Glad I am only getting some for free, rather than wanting these for an army.

Good to see from Mantic's comments that the rest of the sculpts will be shown in the next week, and we can re-choose if we like. Looks like I will have an absolute bucketload of Celestian Men at Arms.

Got an email back from Mantic about a few questions I asked;

In the BOGOF sculpts, you'll get a repeat of the original product, not any other different styles.

Abyssal Dwarf Immortals are new sculpts, but done in restic, not sprue plastic.

Ogres are supplied with options for hand weapon, shield and a two handed weapon (if you didn't know this already).

No chance of swapping out some of the freebies you get based on your pledge level (ie if you want to swap some of your Brock riders for more Ogres etc), as they are all going to be bulk packed for the orders to make things easier.

Trolls:

OK, kinda goofy looking, more so than I thought/remember they'd be, but I still like them!

I like them a lot

although I wonder if they'll be stable if you remove the dangly loincloth

I think removing that serious trip hazard will help (spindly legs an all)

Looks good. Hope that's 40mm bases they are on. Also looks like the legs will be easy enough to modify as well so if I don't like how small they are I can change them.

Thing is I thought they were more terrestrial brachiators, using their arms more to move along, but the way they are positioned and standing, it looks like their legs are used quite a bit.

Still, very pleased with how they turned out and look painted.

I believe mantic mainly uses 50mm bases for monsters/war machines now (the war trombones would easily fit 40 but are supplied with 50, for example) though the rulebook mentions both. they could be 40 or 50, no way to know for now AFAIK.