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**Polonius**

The paladins are nice. Very good version of a "classical" fantasy trope.

Are the sisters are epileptics? Or do their enourmous arms somehow unbalance them?

**decker_cky**

Ignoring the command, the sisters are a little nicer than I had thought. Probably a meh rather than bad unit.

Is there going to be more updates with men at arms, characters, angels and cavalry?

**judgedoug**

nkelsch wrote:

The Dreadball KS is ending up exactly the same way. Terrible quality casting. Poor mold design. Questionable translation of concept art.

Seriously. My Dreadball models had no mold lines, looked excellent, and was a tremendous deal. What a bunch of fethers

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nkelsch wrote:
Everything I have said has been based off of physical evidence (which I have provided photos which clearly show the mold line issues which points directly to the design of the molds) or Mantic's own statements where they either failed to address the legitimate concerns or flat out made false statements, especially about the WIP sculpts. And I can review the quality of the product provided to me as I see fit. No one can refute the statements of mantic or the issues going on with casting and sculpting. They just make excuses why we should be accepting of it like you did. No one is making false statements.

Other companies make cheap minis without having casting issues or poorly sculpted models, And can match the concept art... Some would call not matching concept art bait and switch... or at least feel disappointed if not officially decieved.

You've become self-parody at this point. You are the loudest complainer despite the fact you can exchange any problem models, yet you haven't done so. Your constant bleating has left the realm of valid criticism and become a wall of noise.

**Da Boss**

Those paladins are pretty nice- are they plastic or restic?

The Sisters look nicer ranked up, they definitely have "heroic" proportions but there are very few fantasy females on the market so I imagine they'll sell well enough. The faces aren't too bad, I suppose, but the upper bodies are a little too beefy compared to the lower halves.

**warboss**

scarletsquig wrote:

I do like the sculpts of the paladins. Are these gw-style plastic kits (that plastic glue works on) or restic? As for the sisters, they're ok. I'm not a huge fan as they remind me of more clothed Empire Flagellants... maybe it's just that one of the bottom left that bugs me too much... she reminds me of the type of over botox-ed and collagen injected middle aged rich housewife you see on US reality tv. The ones in hoods look a lot better IMO.

**Alpharius**

2nd from the right, front rank - what's up with he right arm?

**NAVARRO**

Yikes the sisters are ugly... Nasty proportions and nothing feminine about them. I will pass. It's quite clear what they are aiming for and I'm totally not the target.

**scarletsquig**

I've figured out what was bothering me about their boobs.

If you look *very* closely, you can see that they're sculpted to have exposed cleavage, you can see the cloth line going over them where the cleavage line stops.

It's just that the painter hasn't painted that part to look like skin and painted it blue instead.

Probably a smart move on the part of the painter, but it doesn't change the fact that they've got their tits out despite every other inch of their body being swathed in robes. :p

It does bode well for me converting a Daenarys model out of one of them though...

@warboss: They're restic.

**Alpharius**

The more I look at it...ouch!

The standard bearer shares the awful right arm, and adds to it with a ridiculous left arm!

Strange that these made it out of QC...

**warboss**

Alpharius wrote:
2nd from the right, front rank - what's up with he right arm?

Wow.. didn't see that one before you mentioned it. She could palm a watermelon and dunk it without jumping.

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scarletsquig wrote:

@warboss: They're restic.

Thanks.

**RiTides**

Ugh... those are really badly executed

**decker_cky**

scarletsquig wrote:
I've figured out what was bothering me about their boobs.

If you look *very* closely, you can see that they're sculpted to have exposed cleavage, you can see the cloth line going over them where the cleavage line stops.

It's just that the painter hasn't painted that part to look like skin and painted it blue instead.

Probably a smart move on the part of the painter, but it doesn't change the fact that they've got their tits out despite every other inch of their body being swathed in robes. :p

Pretty sure you're wrong. That line is just the fabric pulled tight along their ample bosoms. Pretty sure the painting is accurate to how they're painted.

**Alpharius**

decker_cky wrote:
Pretty sure the painting is accurate to how they're painted.

When you put it like that...

**Fenriswulf**

Yeah, still not a fan. Considering what the original sketches looked as, these are a pale shadow of what could have been.

And by that I mean the faces, arms, flails and body are terrible. I don't mind the boots though.

**Da Boss**

Perhaps the fluff for these ladies has something about them being stretched on a rack or similar device as a test of faith?
Might explain the giraffe necks, too.

**-DE-**

These should teach people not to buy Mantic models based on art work alone. There are so many things wrong with those that the only explanation I can give is that the sculptor's skills were severely lacking. Meaning Mantic took people's money and hired a sub-par guy to realize decent concepts. That's Mantic for you!

**Alpharius**

This is another case of the concept art not being met by the actual sculpts.

Too bad, as these certainly had potential...

**-DE-**

This is another case of Mantic being cheap and not giving a hoot about the quality of what they put out, both sculpt- and casting-wise (see Dreadball restic models) despite the prices of their models rapidly rising (see Deadzone). What else is new?

**scarletsquig**

Feel free to completely ignore the 80% of sculpts which did turn out very nicely with no complaints about them at all.

**Da Boss**

Don't worry SS, it's just human nature to focus on the negatives. The mantic Ogres and Paladins I have seen are nice sculpts.

**-DE-**

Like the trolls or the pussy cavalry or the command-free human troopers? OK. Now tell that to people that bought into the KS in hopes of getting those or decent nuns with flails. I'm sure they'll be happy to talk to you about those 80%.

**scarletsquig**

^ I'm getting 30 nuns and 20 cat cavalry from the kickstarter.

**Polonius**

scarletsquig wrote:
Feel free to completely ignore the 80% of sculpts which did turn out very nicely with no complaints about them at all.

I dunno. we haven't even seen a lot of the sculpts for this.

Have we seen painted or production ogres? I just remember seeing one WIP.

**overtyrant**

So far I see 2 sets of models I dislike and thats the nuns and theCathorse the rest are great so IMO a great deal.

**Agamemnon2**

Jesus christ. Those Sisters are ghastly.. The arms! the horrible arms!

**RiTides**

scarletsquig wrote:
Feel free to completely ignore the 80% of sculpts which did turn out very nicely with no complaints about them at all.

80%?

Just last page there was a poster who pledged big saying they were struggling to like 30% of them... I think saying 4 out of every 5 sculpts Mantic has produced for this kickstarter have turned out "very nicely with no complaints about them at all" is very far from the reality of it...

**Polonius**

RiTides wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:
Feel free to completely ignore the 80% of sculpts which did turn out very nicely with no complaints about them at all.

80%?

Just last page there was a poster who pledged big saying they were struggling to like 30% of them... I think saying 4 out of every 5 sculpts Mantic has produced for this kickstarter have turned out "very nicely with no complaints about them at all" is very far from the reality of it...

to be fair, given that we haven't seen pics of most of them, we haven't had a chance to complain!

**Breotan**

Alpharius wrote:
2nd from the right, front rank - what's up with he right arm?

Popeye's sister?

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

-DE- wrote:
Like the trolls or the pussy cavalry or the command-free human troopers? OK. Now tell that to people that bought into the KS in hopes of getting those or decent nuns with flails. I'm sure they'll be happy to talk to you about those 80%.

The KS never offered a human command/command upgrade, mantic put that together afterwards

now it would have been nice if they gave it to backers (or used plastic rather than metal to make it),

but it shouldn't be something KS backers are complaining about... it wasn't part of the KS

(and it makes the more valid complaints about the quality of some sculpts, or the lack of adherence to concept art easier to ignore)

**Alpharius**

RiTides wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:
Feel free to completely ignore the 80% of sculpts which did turn out very nicely with no complaints about them at all.

80%?

Just last page there was a poster who pledged big saying they were struggling to like 30% of them... I think saying 4 out of every 5 sculpts Mantic has produced for this kickstarter have turned out "very nicely with no complaints about them at all" is very far from the reality of it...

I hear that!

I was starting to feel bad about how many times I've emailed Mantic to change my pledge, but then I thought about it a bit, and didn't feel bad at all...