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If you want a discount set, let me know. I'll probably be selling my KoW stuff this weekend.

 pretre wrote:
If you want a discount set, let me know. I'll probably be selling my KoW stuff this weekend.

What're you selling for?

~Tim?

 Baragash wrote:
I've only had a quick rifle through my package but at first glance I got an "oooh, shiny" feeling from the Golem components, they look nice and chunky.

Pics needed those Golems are one of the few items that really tempt me... I am very curious about what they look like "in the wild" since afaik there were only a few pics of them from Mantic previously.

Someone else's pic from the Mantic forum

Things are definitely missing from packs. Elven palace guard are supposed to be, so message them: I got mine. However, when SS mentioned we could contact for additional minis added to the ogre amounts from BOGOs, I did email stew about it and didn't get the extras sent. I'm also missing ten cavalry bases and wound counters. Looking through, I'm pretty sure that's all I'm missing. They sent an alert that all Basileans were shipping in August except the elohi. I got my elohi, waiting on the rest as expected. I'm just going to ask my extra stuff that got missed be sent with them, as I don't need them to make an emergency rush shipment for 6 missing models and 10 bases.

Baragash, thanks! What size base is that? The golem and the ogre both are looking great as expected.

That looks like a 50mm base

I think the golems are supposed to be on 50mm. I have three 50mm bases, and the golems are the only 3-of model groups. RITides, I don't think I'm gonna start an abyssal army, so if you have an interest in a 3-man group of golems, give me a yell.

 RiTides wrote:
Baragash, thanks! What size base is that? The golem and the ogre both are looking great as expected.

40mm bases.

These guys are small.

Having built 17 ogres tonight, I gotta say I'm very happy with them. They have a different feel than GW's, and I think they're a lot better. Instead of being a caricature of an obese Asian, they look more bestial, more primal. The gun arms go on easily enough and aren't difficult, and the single HW arms are obviously easy too. They rank up very well as well. Now for the bad: the great weapon swords are awful. The hands are poorly positioned and they do not meet up at all. Some people will be disappointed, but I mostly wanted hand weapons and I'm not too upset. I have enough leftover great axes to make the weapons without having to use the swords, there is just less diversity. Unless I hack stuff up.
Grade: A-
They're awesome, but the issue with the great swords keeps them from being a perfect kit. I also had no issues with where they were removed from sprues-even the part on the cheek was easily removed on each head.

Just got my package today, and overall I am satisfied with my kickstarter purchase. I think I am missing a few items, but I am going to do a recount tomorrow since I been tired lately getting my apoc force together for this weekend. I think I might give up on the basileans and focus on ogres, cuz they are just too awesomesauce.

Hot water reshaping is essential on some of the restics, looks like it definitely will be needed on the ogre greatswords.

I said earlier I'd drop in a picture of one of the trolls with the loincloth removed,

it's easy to do on the two identical less heavily armoured bodies and to my eye improves them (on the armoured body it's going to be too complicated to bother with)

I'm also keen to see what Squig's Bones Ogre/Mantic Troll rebuild looks like in the flesh.

I've seen some comparison shots on the Mantic forum. The troll legs are *tiny*. And the Ogres look not much bigger than Chaos Warriors, which is a bit of a worry, but I will wait till I get them in my hands over here.

A lot of their stuff is going to take a work to get how I want it. I really wish the factory would cut rather than twist off the parts.

I found this on youtube it has some size comparisons of the new models

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAJ9DL1A0Yw

Wow... those legs are really tiny looking, especially from that angle.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
And the Ogres look not much bigger than Chaos Warriors, which is a bit of a worry, but I will wait till I get them in my hands over here.

This is more the classic size ogres have been rather than the scale GW went with for their new plastics. Won't mix with GW, but as an army should look good.


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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Having built 17 ogres tonight, I gotta say I'm very happy with them. They have a different feel than GW's, and I think they're a lot better. Instead of being a caricature of an obese Asian, they look more bestial, more primal. The gun arms go on easily enough and aren't difficult, and the single HW arms are obviously easy too. They rank up very well as well. Now for the bad: the great weapon swords are awful. The hands are poorly positioned and they do not meet up at all. Some people will be disappointed, but I mostly wanted hand weapons and I'm not too upset. I have enough leftover great axes to make the weapons without having to use the swords, there is just less diversity. Unless I hack stuff up.
Grade: A-
They're awesome, but the issue with the great swords keeps them from being a perfect kit. I also had no issues with where they were removed from sprues-even the part on the cheek was easily removed on each head.

As scarletsquig mentioned, the restic does tend to need some hot water reshaping. Put the figure in hot water, the material will soften so you can repose it, then put it in cold water. I find myself actually doing this with any material that can be reposed even when the fit looks good, since it can make for a near perfect fit which doesn't need much (if any) filling. I do the same with any Bones that need assembly, though Bones needs actual boiling water.

Rather than considering the warping a (minor) issue with the material, I now consider the ability to get perfect fits a positive feature. It also allows for reposing, which will be good for a number of these mantic kits with only two legs and two torsos.

And if you have good hair dryer it gets even easier.... just fixed a warped base plate this way.

Quite happy with my parcel I got today.

I'm confused by this last shipment.

Was it supposed to include the humans and battle nuns, or are they coming in a wave 3 shipment?

Wave 3 in August. It should be in the KS updates somewhere.

 Gadge wrote:
I found this on youtube it has some size comparisons of the new models

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAJ9DL1A0Yw

The trolls are WAY smaller than I thought they would be.

I'm actually ok with the size of the trolls but I think the issue isn't the size but rather the size OF THE LEGS. If the legs were actually scaled more closely to the rest of the model, they'd likely have the height you're expecting.

Either way, I'm really glad that I chickened out on this being my first kickstarter. While most of the figs they've put out so far are actually nice, the ones I was most excited about (trolls, ogres, battle nuns, angels, and brock riders) have come with characteristics that I'd find visually unacceptable. I much preferred the triceratops dwarf cavalry and they went with the brock variant instead. The nuns have ogre huge hands whereas the large humanoids have nun sized legs... and that paladin armored angel has a ridiculously small head. He looks like he came straight from a scene in beetlejuice!

 warboss wrote:
I'm actually ok with the size of the trolls but I think the issue isn't the size but rather the size OF THE LEGS. If the legs were actually scaled more closely to the rest of the model, they'd likely have the height you're expecting.

Either way, I'm really glad that I chickened out on this being my first kickstarter. While most of the figs they've put out so far are actually nice, the ones I was most excited about (trolls, ogres, battle nuns, angels, and brock riders) have come with characteristics that I'd find visually unacceptable. I much preferred the triceratops dwarf cavalry and they went with the brock variant instead. The nuns have ogre huge hands whereas the large humanoids have nun sized legs... and that paladin armored angel has a ridiculously small head. He looks like he came straight from a scene in beetlejuice!

We're going to see how they size up with Tre's stuff.

If they don't, I'll be selling the undead army set.

As to the leg issue- they are smaller, and make them look like those things in the old Mario brothers movie, and not in a good way.

Anyone interested in the add ons, pm me and give me a good offer, or a trade if you want. I'll start with the nonundead stuff.

So far I have an orc cart, an oger, an angel, dwarf on a bear, and Tiny the dancing troll.

In pm if interested.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I've seen some comparison shots on the Mantic forum. The troll legs are *tiny*. And the Ogres look not much bigger than Chaos Warriors, which is a bit of a worry, but I will wait till I get them in my hands over here.
A lot of their stuff is going to take a work to get how I want it. I really wish the factory would cut rather than twist off the parts.

I'll wait and see. I've got a few of the newer OK models, but I've also got a lot of the classic GW metal ogres, so if they fit in with the latter, I'll be happy. The troll legs look like toothpicks.


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 bbb wrote:

 Gadge wrote:
I found this on youtube it has some size comparisons of the new models
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAJ9DL1A0Yw

The trolls are WAY smaller than I thought they would be.

Useful video, but I think I know what I'll be doing when mine arrive (in August/Sept) - some size comparisons to the various GW models.

Saw this idea over on the Mantic forums, and thought some of you might find it interesting or already have the bitz.



Mantic Ogres, GW orc arms. Perfect match. In fact they seem to improve the ogre a little by toning down the size of the fists. Worth thinking about for the ogre berserkers in the army list since they'd look better with bare arms and 2 weapons.

Edit: added the pic rather than linking it.

Can you link the pics here? Apparently you have to be signed up and signed in to view that page.

That looks good... honestly, the ogres were quite a home run. Or maybe a triple, with the only real downside being the small legs, but arm swaps may lessen that effect. Just wish the rest had been as good!

Although I have worked out a trade for timetowaste's golems, as I think those could be very useful for my chaos dwarfs . Still a little hard to tell on the pics, so I will see when I have them in-person (and likely take some comparison shots).

Well, RITides, the looked pretty kickass sitting in the baggie- I can take them out and text you pictures, if you'd like before I mail them. When I was looking, I kinda kicked myself for not starting Abyssals, based just on the golems, but I really think the individual parts look like they'll be awesome!

Excellent . I can wait to see them in-hand, I think I need to before I really will know if they will work (for k'daii). Looking forward to it