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Updated some Faeit release rumors.

Updated with Stickmonkey DA rumors.

You need to update the rumors Stickymonkey put out regarding GW's digital products for August. I've put my comments in the original thread.

Also, you need to mark all the "And a few more WFB PENDING" as being too vague.

Breotan,

We had already given him a date related false for the first batch since that was the crux of the first part of the rumor. As with most rumors, however, unless the date is integral, we don't count it as a false. So there's till a chance we will get these digital releases he mentioned and it will just be 'wrong date'. I completely agree with the TOO VAGUE entries though and updated them.

Thanks for the heads up!


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Updated all of the Faeit rumors, but allowed for a retraction of the garbage he posted that he said he disproved. I left it in there for historical (hysterical) purposes, but won't track it against him. I will track it though.

Updated with more faeit rumors


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Added White Dwarf confirmation for Darnok.

 pretre wrote:

Updated all of the Faeit rumors, but allowed for a retraction of the garbage he posted that he said he disproved. I left it in there for historical (hysterical) purposes, but won't track it against him. I will track it though.

Um...why? I don't see the logic in that. He posted them, they're rumours, they're (probably) false.

It rather defeats the point if people can just retract them and not be tracked for that - he chose to post any rumour that came his way, that comes with downsides

Charax wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Updated all of the Faeit rumors, but allowed for a retraction of the garbage he posted that he said he disproved. I left it in there for historical (hysterical) purposes, but won't track it against him. I will track it though.

Um...why? I don't see the logic in that. He posted them, they're rumours, they're (probably) false.

It rather defeats the point if people can just retract them and not be tracked for that - he chose to post any rumour that came his way, that comes with downsides

Yeah, I'm certainly open to feedback about it.

My thought was that he retracted them like the next day so they really didn't have a chance to last as rumors. Of course, if he had fact checked them or disproved them first, he wouldn't have posted them in the first place. You know what? You and I just convinced me, I think.


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Updated.

I think it is OK to retract as long as as you do it without provocation from another source and if it is done within a reasonable ammount of time (not months later).

It would have been something entirely if Naftka had retracted his statement after Harry or Hastings said it was rubbish. But Naftka retracted it without any apparent feedback from the online community.

Yeah, I left a note on it. I kinda think he should be left on his record, but he did do it on his own. Dunno, we'll see if anyone else chirps in.

Updated the early september chaos rumors.

Added Faeit chaos rumors and Stickmonkey DA



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Huge update based on WD leaks

I loled when I saw Heresy Online's reliability.

To be fair that is just one poster that I haven't been able to identify from Heresy Online. HO doesn't post rumors that I know of.


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More updates from WD pics.


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Added Bram's rumors. Although I may stop posting Chaos since we are in leak ville instead of rumor land now. We'll see.

Updated author rumors for chaos.


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HUGE update from WD Scans.

A few more Faeit clarifications:
The ramming Land Raider isn't happening (it would be on the summary sheet even if it has the same armour values)
Hades is 36" range but apart from that Faeit's profile was correct
Dragon HP/Armour he got right
Dark Apostles 3 per Elite slot is false, they are HQ
I don't think you can give a TRUE for Chosen Terminator Troops just yet!

Awesome. I'll give him the Hades and I'm not sure how that Chosen one got marked true. lol

Is it wrong that I can't wait for theDarkGenerals percentage to drop?

For some reason people seem to believe him on Warseer.

He tends to get obvious or vague rumors right but fails in anything detailed.

He's at 50/50 right now which is pretty bad.


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Marked off most of the new units that have not been seen in any of the unit lists as well as the special characters. This means ghost21 got hit hard.

Regarding ghost21:
I can't remember what he tried to tell us about the dark mechanicus and the Slaughterfiends.
Both rumours are marked as false but maybe he accidentally meant the warpsmith (together with all the daemon engines) and the maulerfiend respectively.

Yeah, if someone can dig up the exact post that would be great.

Warseer rejects my registration saying they don't allow spammers, which is a pain in my arse.


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re: Dark Mechanicus:
ghost21: i did see a dark mechanicus guy...
razerz: As in rules, models or artwork? Or a combination thereof?
Ghost 21: a very creepy sculpt based on a john Blanche piece


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Aha, the slaughterfiend and a couple others were thedarkgeneral and not ghost. I moved them.

Can I do my take on theDarkGeneral?

-that several special characters look to be getting varying levels of Eternal Warrior (1-3), including Abaddon, Kharn, Typhus and two more. PENDING
Well, varying levels of EW don't exist, they were entirely a Pancake edition thing

- Chain Axes. One being simply giving them Rending, the other being +1 Strength. PENDING
They exist, but are AP4 (confirmed on German summary sheet)

-Alpha Legion may be able to pass on their Infiltration abilities to their transports PENDING
Non-ability, everybody can do that in 6th

- "lots of "New" special characters ranging from bikers to (possibly) a dread and quite a few Terminator Armored ones" PENDING
False, nobody new on the summary sheet

-Thousand Sons Psyker Dreadnoughts, Flank Marching Alpha Legion Terminators and Iron Warriors Havocs with "Tank Busters" rule. PENDING

Negative on the Dreadnought, there is only the Helbrute and it has no such option

- *Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test! PENDING

The part that isn't uselessly vague is completely false. No stat-test powers in the codex at all.

- *Iron Warriors: Iron-Fire Cannon (thunder fire). Basic Chaos Marine squads "may" be able to take an additional heavy weapons team once past 10 models... PENDING

No Thunderfire equivalent in the Codex

Perfect. Updating now!


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Wow. 6 true, 20 false for TDG. I think a dart board has a better chance there.

 pretre wrote:

Wow. 6 true, 20 false for TDG. I think a dart board has a better chance there.

Just wait till all his Legion-specific nonsense gets debunked. There must be another 10-15 misses there.

Yep, he's going to end up in a pretty poor position. Until he claims there's another Legion codex coming out and that's what he was talking about.

Some help:

BIG RED has only 1 FALSE (not 2). Also, Cultist units can be up to 35 miniatures. Picture: http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/03fdcd9f1d5f930fd727473134e05d6e_32389.jpg


Faeit212:
Under CSM Q&A
You can mix/match Marks and Icons. TRUE. Pic shows marks and Icons with no restriction. Picture: http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/03fdcd9f1d5f930fd727473134e05d6e_32389.jpg
CSM and Cultists are Troops TRUE. Shown in the pic above.
Daemon princes are jump if they have wings. FALSE, they are FMC. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/476112.page
Chaos Space Marine - 70 for 5, 14 for each additional marine. FALSE. 75 for 5, 13 each additional. http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/03fdcd9f1d5f930fd727473134e05d6e_32389.jpg
Aspiring Champion is a 10 point upgrade. FALSE. Included in points cost. Mutation is a 10 point upgrade to aspiring champion. http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/03fdcd9f1d5f930fd727473134e05d6e_32389.jpg
For every 5 models in the squad you get a special weapon. If the squad is 10 or more, one model can exchange a flamer(5 pts) for a Heavy Bolter, meltagun(10 points) for an Autocannon or Missile Launcher or a plasmagun(15 points) for a Lascannon. FALSE You get additional weapon if unit size is over 10 http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/03fdcd9f1d5f930fd727473134e05d6e_32389.jpg
Marks range from 10-50 points, Icons range from 10-40 points. FALSE. Marks depends on unit size, Icons range from 10-30. http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/03fdcd9f1d5f930fd727473134e05d6e_32389.jpg
Chaos Dragon (Fast Attack) The only flyer in the codex TRUE. http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/5c21f69afb1749a69ca80a64b5ff5bc1_32389.jpg
New Siege Engine (heavy support) The siege engine has a melta blast template. FALSE No new vehicle, no melta blast weapon. http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/5c21f69afb1749a69ca80a64b5ff5bc1_32389.jpg
No drop pods TRUE.

JARED VAN KELL:
Iron Warriors Honsou FALSE. Not in codex units list http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/9/24/5c21f69afb1749a69ca80a64b5ff5bc1_32389.jpg
Raptor Lord FALSE: Same as above.

THE DARK GENERAL:
30k Campaign in Summer of 2012 FALSE. Summer finished few days ago (Need picture? I don't think so).

Just what I could confirm through pictures. Hope this helps.

I can't believe this post doesn't get a sticky...

Awesome! Thanks for the help. I'll update the first post. I'm trying to track everything that has come in recently and it is rough. lol


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Btw, if anyone has a copy of the codex and wants to do some fact checking, that'd be great. The big ones are Tastytaste, Faeit, TheDarkGeneral.


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Massive update.
Thedarkgeneral now has the worst record, I think.


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Added Stickmonkey's DA force org.

 pretre wrote:

Thedarkgeneral now has the worst record, I think.

Which makes this comment by him all the better!

theDarkGeneral wrote:Yup he/she is but if they followed my actual posts would realize that my info is NEVER finished product stuff and often varying stages of R&D. Most substantial projects take many twists and turns and often several re-writes. I'm still viewing some of the early 6th Edition rules leaks as alpha/beta tests and concepts. But many short sighted players want or assume everything anyone posts for rumors is printed gosspel awaiting revelation...lol!

Didn't find the post he was responding to, but his post is pretty hilarious. He's so far off on his rumorsnthat unlessnthey release another separate legions codex he'll never be even close to accurate.

Hi Pretre,

I was wondering how you approach the situation in which one poster posts a rumour and then later on another poster mentions the same rumour. Do both posters get credit or just the original poster?