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Having grown up in an age when everyone didn't, I'm more than OK with that.

Whoops.

I guess that's a fair enough compromise, and will help people avoid getting their feelings hurt too much.

I'd think they people really 'in the know' wouldn't care and the one's throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks might, but maybe that's too obvious?

Well, I might agree with that if not for the fact that people like Hastings are pretty upset about it and we know that he is reliable.

If I get time later today, I'll see if I can update it to reflect the changes.

Yeah, it seems like a fair compromise in the end, but it does have an air of 'making it pretty to keep the inmates happy' as it were

As said before (by yourself in fact), the tracking can be 'harsh', but that should not stop the regular, reliable rumour posters, but should help keep the others away...

Yeah, a fair amount of compromise is probably inevitable.

Updated a traitor guard entry for Tasty to TRUE as I gave it to Stick. Under the new regime, this would be partially true.


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In other news, a conference call got cancelled today, so I may actually get around to updating the whole thing.

 pretre wrote:
In other news, a conference call got cancelled today, so I may actually get around to updating the whole thing.

Awesome. I hate it when work gets in the way of the important stuff too.

Massively updated and now my brain hurts.

The changes look great to me.

Wow, that is very detailed and well managed... so many different rumor sources too. Some of the True to False ratios will be getting people laughed off the board any time the say anything now... lol. Good stuff, thanks for the hard work.

 RiTides wrote:
The changes look great to me.

Thanks! Now, if anyone sees anything else I should update, just let me know.

@BladeWalker: Hopefully, we can discourage some of the pull-gak-out-of-their-butt posters this way.

I see a proof read in the making...maybe...

I would appreciate it. I can only read through the list so many times before it all blends together.


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The Warseer thread is pretty good for showing me which things need to be updated though. I just have to look for the posts where they pick me apart. lol

No worries, ill see what i can do...

Ouch, really? Bit harsh considering the work your putting in to it....saying that, is there a link so i can compare?

EDIT: nevermind, found it...

Yeah, I have found out how much Warseer reallllly doesn't like me. There have been some good nuggets of ideas in there that I have already adopted though.

Well when it comes to rumors mongers, warseer can go from "though can do no wrong" to "stick boiling pitch up his crack" just as quickly as any other website I've visited. You should see some of the visceral hatred that got thrown at Stickmonkey in the past on that site...I mean, I know some of the dakka guys have called Stickmonkey some pretty unflattering names but I don't recall any of us threatening to do physical harm to the guy.

There is definitely a lot of 'but that means someone is actually checking what i saw!!' /whiny voice in that thread, but yeah, there are some kernels of good things...

Which is crazy, because Stickmonkey is fairly reliable. Not so sure about his recent DA stuff, but hey, it's probably pretty true based on past info.

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, I have found out how much Warseer reallllly doesn't like me.

No problem, Warseer doesn't like rumour mongers either, as I know from first hand experience
Ask Harry about the witch hunt when he cautiously proposed that High Elves will get a chariot drawn by white lions
Or when all 5th edition Tyranid Codex rumour threads were banned from Warseer because the existence of Tervigons and Tyrannofexes was considered laughable nonsense not worthy being posted on the respectable Warseer forum, even when confirmed by Phil Kelly.
Ex-moderator Avian is trolling Stickmonkey wherever he can.

So you are in good company

I tried to register again and even e-mailed the contact address but still no go. I figured I should probably jump in but alas no.

I wonder if the logan there is Logan from Faeit?


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Ugh. Word wrap fail. I think I fixed it all.

See, they really hate you
Try to register under an incognito then.

I'm guessing it is the domain for my e-mail. I run my own domain and maybe that's what they are uppity about. I guess I should just make a fake e-mail address. Sigh.


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lol. Registered a new yahoo address and it still tells me I'm a spammer. Tried a different login name from pretre. Still tells me I'm a spammer. Seriously.


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Aha! It was my work's VPN IP address. They thought it was a spam IP or something. Logged out of VPN and bingo. I am now the proud owner of a warseer account.

 pretre wrote:
I tried to register again and even e-mailed the contact address but still no go. I figured I should probably jump in but alas no.

I wonder if the logan there is Logan from Faeit?


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Ugh. Word wrap fail. I think I fixed it all.

No he isn't

@itsonlyme: There goes that theory.

Despite all the griping, not to mention how some of them seem to act like they're far too cool for playing with plastic toy soldiers, by some of the posters over there, the man/robot/thing that runs/owns Warseer seems to approve. So that's nice.

Well, the chilling effect that itsonlyme predicted over on Warseer hasn't happened yet. Two big adds from Stickmonkey.

Good to see that the rumours are still coming in then!

Apologies for not being able to have a look through yet, its my last week (and day now), so ive been a bit snowed under getting ready to move on Monday....ill see what i can do when im in the new role (may not have the same hidden PC that i have hetre, so maybe nothing during the day, but ill be able to do it when im at home...)

No worries.


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I wouldn't normally crosspost, but this goes to my motivations re: this endeavor. As background it is me responding to TDG on the Warseer thread re: this one.

theDarkGeneral;6464818 wrote:So we have people who are passionate about their particular hobby/gaming being affected by other posters rumored info because it's either news they want to hear or don't want to hear. Sounds a lot like NFL Football when I hear another one of my team's players is injured! LMAO!!!

Well written, but ultimately misses the mark. From what I can see, the idea you are getting at is that people track rumors because they are passionate and they are passionate because rumors are either news they want to hear or news they don't want to hear. I mark rumors that I dislike TRUE just as I mark rumors that I was pulling for FALSE. Really has little to do with it.

I am passionate because I enjoy the game of 40k and I enjoy the 40k communities that I participate in. I dislike seeing constant misinformation (unrelated to rumors) being spewed about and combat that a fair amount in other posting (Ex: People who post things like "OMG, Matt Ward ruined the SW Codex!"). When the same kind of garbage came up with rumors ("OMG, Stickmonkey is never right, why do we listen to him?") there were less facts available to point to and say "No, actually, he is right quite a bit." in the same way that I can point at the first page of Codex:SW and say "No, actually Ward didn't ruin this book." Hence, the tracker. Forcing false sources out of posting rumors (the thing that logan loves to harp on) is just a pleasant side effect of the process.

In the end some players see the accuracy charts as witch hunting, others as helpful, and yet still some could care less. I think the way that Warseer (and Harry in particular) has handled such info was much more proffesional and courteous then other sites. But again as another poster has already mentioned, if members feel they will be overly haggled for posts on potential rumor info they've heard from "a drinking buddy", "fork lift driver", "girl dating the garbage man", etc. we will more then likely see a large decline in rumors...this to me would be a loss to the community.

I think there's a sideways jab here, but htat's okay. If you feel that someone saying that your posts are true or false after the fact is overly haggling, then you might be a bit sensative. I highly value the people who bring us real information and doubt that folks who do bring real information are going to stop because of a list that says they are right most of the time.

Either way, great post TDG.

I don't think that after the flood of false rumours by ghost21 and TheDarkGeneral, we can experience a further decline of rumours. Maybe in number, but not in quality.

updated with Tau rumors from Antipathy.