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None, keep checking the blog, and even Kickstarter, but I expecting they will send out a email via their kickstarter account as soon as it goes up.

They are shipping off one of the extra V20 books at the mo (the companion I think) so that might have delayed them a day or two.

Received my V20 Companion yesterday. Two copies, apparently! That's what happens when you "pledge and forget."

It's that Demon:the Fallen rum.

Got my V20 companion today, just waiting for the WtA 20th kickstarter now....

Ah no sign of mine yet, hopefully today.

There has obviously been some kind of delay in the W20 kickstarter, but I'll get a link in here as soon as its up.

It seems the delay is related to figuring out the correct International postage, after the mess up with V20. They are talking around the $50 mark for internationals due to the weight the book is apparently going to be.

The are also considering more interesting reward tiers for this Kickstarter after some Q&A discussion at Gencon.

It seems it could go live any time.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:


It seems it could go live any time.

Such a tease.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
It seems the delay is related to figuring out the correct International postage, after the mess up with V20. They are talking around the $50 mark for internationals due to the weight the book is apparently going to be.

The are also considering more interesting reward tiers for this Kickstarter after some Q&A discussion at Gencon.

It seems it could go live any time.

Wow 50$ shipping outside of US for WtA 20th when it comes out :( definitely dampen my expections for the kickstarter now.

Aye to be fair on them, I had a WoW TBC collectors edition come this way a month or so back and that cost $55. They are suggesting this book will be heavier than V20.

In a bit of side news, my V20 Storytellers Companion arrived two days ago. Lovely book, I did a higher tier so have both a leather backed tome and a Print on Demand copy to use as my game aid. I also got an old npc listed as a Elder at the front.

If I get time I'll take some pics.

Ickle bit of info regarding W20, it seems from those on the grapevine, it is getting closer.

The final delay is Richard Thomas would rather not charge internationals $50 for shipping unless he has no alternative, so he has been getting quotes from varying postal services trying to find the best price.

From what I can gather if should be up within the next two weeks, and should be aiming for a Delivery in December time, I'd guess for internationals that would equal Jan 2013.

As the thread title now says, will update asap. As soon as I see the email that announces the launch of W20, this will be the first place I come to.

Its close, danged close.

Richard Thomas was writing out the page on Monday, ready for a final check over by Kickstarter before it goes live, I am expecting it this week.
It sounds from the sound bites that this will be a much more interesting kickstarter to back compared to the previous V20 ones, and there may be much more in the way of incentives.

In other news I just read a very interesting article over at Onyx Path. It partially made me chuckle, as my long running game over nine years, had both a Croatan lost cub, a White Howler pack and a Camazotz running around.

Thought I'd share.

Thoughts on W20 and unhelpful game design

The fact lost breeds and tribes will be in W20 right from the off, and playable is a massive bonus in my mind. It also goes along with my long standing argument that WtA still have plenty of product lines to give.

WW"s newest game seems to be "Kickstarter: The Hold-Up."

 Manchu wrote:
WW"s newest game seems to be "Kickstarter: The Hold-Up."

Not gonna lie, that made me smile.

I chuckled as well, I'm just eager to see what they have come up with.
Badges and T-shirts where mentioned as possibilities on one of the onyx Path threads, so my Credit card is trying to find a good hiding place at the mo.

Just when this couldn't get any stranger, it seems there is some sad news that Richard Thomas' mother passed last week, which obviously has delayed the launch, and rightly so.
My heartfelt best wishes and condolences go out to him at this difficult time.

The mods over on White Wolf forums are of the opinion that he will be attending this weekends 'Atlanta by night; event, and there is talk that at some point over the event the Kickstarter will either go live or a set date will be given for the launch.

We shall have to wait and see.

Finally good news for those following the thread, we have release confirmation.

http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67189

Tomorrow a 9am EST, so thats 2pm to UK folks (3pm for most of the rest of the EU)

WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

And... its Live.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/200664283/deluxe-werewolf-the-apocalypse-20th-anniversary-ed


Jumped in as an Elder, the artwork was too good to miss.

Backed. I almost went for the $250 pledge, but I'd like to buy other things next month, plus the $120 amount still gets my name in the book. ;p

Down for the $120 despite feeling WW is a bit shady these days. Here's hoping Mummy The Curse see the light of day soon, too.

 Manchu wrote:
Down for the $120 despite feeling WW is a bit shady these days. Here's hoping Mummy The Curse see the light of day soon, too.

And Wraith.

Well, Mummy is actually on the table. It was supposed to be out at GenCon, then got pushed to September on WW's schedule, and I guess they'll launch the Kickstarter at the end of October considering they're wary about KS overlap. This is what I mean by WW, or Onyx Path, or whoever, being shady ...

Really good start... almost half way in two and a half hours.

Mummy, I'll be watching for, Wraith I would be really interested in.

Also, my friend is making me ask: Any news on a possibility for Changeling?

Strange question, I've heard nWoD Changeling is actually an improvement.

 Manchu wrote:
Strange question, I've heard nWoD Changeling is actually an improvement.

Same, but she's an old Changeling fangirl.

They got me for $120.

And.. funded.

Will be interested to see how far it goes, and if they have more interesting stretches to come.


As to Changeling the Dreaming, no idea, I would hope if Mage the Ascension 20 is successful as well next year, Changeling will see a 20 as well, but no real info out there I have seen.

Also in for $120. I can't begin to describe how super psyched I am for this. While Vampire the Masquerade was my introduction to the World of Darkness games, the tragic fight of the Garou made Werewolf the Apocalypse my absolute favorite of the series.

 streamdragon wrote:
Also in for $120. I can't begin to describe how super psyched I am for this. While Vampire the Masquerade was my introduction to the World of Darkness games, the tragic fight of the Garou made Werewolf the Apocalypse my absolute favorite of the series.

Totally the same reasons, tho I liked the Get of fenris because I like viking history and Thor was my favourite super hero. They have smashed the first stretch goal of 95k onwards to the 110k stretch goal.