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ephrael wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
The boxed game will be available retail at some point early next year. The Terrain pack is also due for retail release at $40 per pack as is the extra tile pack at $30

The following are kickstarter exclusives or will only have 1 print run so when they are gone they are gone and will not be available later:

Dice Pack
Limited Edition Kara
Keegan Kor
Ridley
Niven Banks (Niven will get a different general release sculpt later)
Hexen (Hexen will get a different general release sculpt later)
Ramirez
Calamity Crew
Opticamo Vanguard and GiTD Strain

Undecided (may or may not get a general release, CMON doesn't seem keen to put these on general release)
Mini Drones
Bone Crabs
Cyber Akosha
Biohazard Morgan
Gnosis Kara
Aphid Suit Barker
Jada Lily

The THI suit will get a retail release with a later expansion

Thanks for the clarification, Dave. I assume that the Kickstarter is closed now and there is no way for me to back it and get the exclusive stuff I should have picked up before now is there?

You could probably buy a kickstarter pledge on ebay once they ship. Be prepared to pay more then the original kickstarter went for though.

As it's about to ship to backers in the next 2 or 3 weeks it's well a truly closed and all backers will (should) have locked in their pledges and shipping addresses at this stage the only way to get the kickstarter only miniatures will be to get to any conventions that CMON or Studio McVey attend while they still have stock of them (they will be selling any excess from the production run at conventions) or go the ebay route.

Thanks guys, I'll try to figure something out to get the models I want.

I think the only way now is to find CMON or studio mcvey at a convention where they may be selling of any of the excess limited edition sculpts. The other way would be to find a backer who bought multiples of the LE sculpts and are planning to sell them.

Good luck in your search!

Well concidering the reception the Jada Iron Lilly sculpt got in certain quaters I suspect some folk will be selling that one anyway

(but then again maybe they'll realise the error of their ways once they get the model in their hands!)

I'm just going to assume that with my luck that the minis I actually want to get besides the actual game will either be impossible to obtain or so expensive on the secondary market that they might as well be impossible. I will be paying closed attention to all of the kickstarter threads here on Dakka from now on. Thanks for the information and advice everyone. I will console myself with the fact that I will at least be able to purchase the core game at a game shop or online distributor and play with my friends and kids. The game does look amazing.

I kind of wish I had bought some of the extra figures, but I didn't have the cash so it's all kind of moot really.

The Calamity Crew would have been nice, but I am a little bit wary of how they were sketched out.

Edit: Anyone know exactly what is being shipped out from the Biohazard extra's? Or are we waiting on that? It might apply to new figures, but what about the bonus ones? Also wondering if stuff like the AI drone will be coming along, as well as the baby drones and the bone crabs...

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I kind of wish I had bought some of the extra figures, but I didn't have the cash so it's all kind of moot really.

The Calamity Crew would have been nice, but I am a little bit wary of how they were sketched out.

Edit: Anyone know exactly what is being shipped out from the Biohazard extra's? Or are we waiting on that? It might apply to new figures, but what about the bonus ones? Also wondering if stuff like the AI drone will be coming along, as well as the baby drones and the bone crabs...

Going out in this shipment are-

1. The base game
2. Biohazard Pack 1 (extra duplictes of figs in the basic box)
3. Lights out Campaign pack (and Opticamo and GITD pack)
4. Dice
5. Battlefoam
6. Tile pack

so all the KE exclusives/new sculpts are scheduled for March (and are on target so far)

I could care less if somehow the stores got the base game at the same time my copy got shipped to me, because if you are buying the game from the store you sure as heck aren't getting what I am getting, just as a basic Biohazard backer!

ephrael wrote:
I'm just going to assume that with my luck that the minis I actually want to get besides the actual game will either be impossible to obtain or so expensive on the secondary market that they might as well be impossible. I will be paying closed attention to all of the kickstarter threads here on Dakka from now on. Thanks for the information and advice everyone. I will console myself with the fact that I will at least be able to purchase the core game at a game shop or online distributor and play with my friends and kids. The game does look amazing.

Yup it sucks, but this is why I jumped in early ad bought multiple copies of everything (except the battlefoam bag). I would also check Board Game Geek periodically for extra LEs as many people who kickstarted are boardgamers over there and sell their stuff or extras frequently.

ephrael wrote:
I'm just going to assume that with my luck that the minis I actually want to get besides the actual game will either be impossible to obtain or so expensive on the secondary market that they might as well be impossible. I will be paying closed attention to all of the kickstarter threads here on Dakka from now on. Thanks for the information and advice everyone. I will console myself with the fact that I will at least be able to purchase the core game at a game shop or online distributor and play with my friends and kids. The game does look amazing.

I think that's a viable consolation. I bought into the kickstarter primarily because of the basic game getting me much more interested in it's type of corridor-crawling gameplay than Space Hulk has - all the extras from the Biohazard level were just icing on the cake.

It's quite likely that if this game had come out as just the basic boxed set in a non-Kickstarter world, I would still have bought it to play alongside 40K. It takes me back in a nostalgic way to my youth starting 40K, with encapsulated boardgames like Tyranid Attack and Space Crusade. I hoped for that with the opportunity to buy the latest Space Hulk (it was just before my time the first two times around), but felt lacking.

I remember my first games of 40K were actually using the Tyranid Attack rules for custom squads (plus house rules) in the back to replace the normal two Scout squads, on a table full of self-made terrain using the grid measurements as inches. Ballistic Skill rolls for shooting, hah! I remember a Heavy Bolter had a range of 48" and shooting was rolling attacks with 4D6 to hit a target number!!

I desperately want to be able to do that with the SedWars minis and rules to capture that feeling again, 15+ years later.

I'm kind of starting to hope that there will be a thread started where people who backed the KS will come together in one topic to trade and sell the exclusive/alternate sculpts they don't want. That will give the rest of us the opportunity to obtain the models we missed out on without getting royally gouged on ebay or some other site. I'm sure that the bonds of Brotherhood and Respect we all share as proud members of this community will shine through and most everyone will end up satisfied in the end. Barring that outcome I'm prepared to beg the McVey's to sell me the minis I want if the have any extra after fulfilling the orders.

Apparently Ravage magazine has a new Sedition Wars scenario. Not that we've seen the box set ones yet...

ephrael wrote:
I'm kind of starting to hope that there will be a thread started where people who backed the KS will come together in one topic to trade and sell the exclusive/alternate sculpts they don't want.

I really don't see that happening. No real reason to pass up on making the most you can from selling something.

I really really wish this would just ship already. I am moving in 3 weeks, and I just know it won't be here in Australia before then...

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I really really wish this would just ship already. I am moving in 3 weeks, and I just know it won't be here in Australia before then...

You may really want to get in touch with Cmon or whomever is shipping to Australia and see about either delaying your shipment or changing the address it goes to, either to your new address or maybe a buddy's place that can receive it for you.

ephrael wrote:
I'm kind of starting to hope that there will be a thread started where people who backed the KS will come together in one topic to trade and sell the exclusive/alternate sculpts they don't want. That will give the rest of us the opportunity to obtain the models we missed out on without getting royally gouged on ebay or some other site. I'm sure that the bonds of Brotherhood and Respect we all share as proud members of this community will shine through and most everyone will end up satisfied in the end. Barring that outcome I'm prepared to beg the McVey's to sell me the minis I want if the have any extra after fulfilling the orders.

You're joking, right?

There's a few extras I plumped for that I might sell. I'll want to get the most out of selling or trading them.


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Actually there is a bit of hope for you. Mike made a few comments hinting that some of these models will be available through his stands in any conventions he attends. Might be worth following up on that and checking Mikes itinerary for the next year to see if you can grab some of them...

zedmeister- It's actually a really great idea, particularly for trading (for those who only want the marine-type models or the infected ones). People did the exact same with GW's Dark Vengeance boxes... it's a win-win.

It is - Ebay might offer a theoretically higher price, but it's also easier for a seller to get screwed by a scammer than if they sell to someone they know.

 RiTides wrote:
zedmeister- It's actually a really great idea, particularly for trading (for those who only want the marine-type models or the infected ones). People did the exact same with GW's Dark Vengeance boxes... it's a win-win.

That is exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned it in the first place. I am really interested in picking up the big "armored suit" models personally and would be willing to trade for them or pay a reasonable price. I really don't want the hassle of trying to snag one from ebay. I guess we'll see what happens when the stuff gets delivered and people decide what they want to do with their miniatures.

define reasonable price.

I bought a rambo kara for 100 bucks. a few months ago. And spent quite a few bones on limited editions this year. Bought my friend a Nightmare lord chompy bits (malifaux) for almost 2 bills.

It sucks and I hate it, but limited editions will generally ask and will get a high price. 2 to 10 times a regular msrp.

That is exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned it in the first place. I am really interested in picking up the big "armored suit" models personally and would be willing to trade for them or pay a reasonable price. I really don't want the hassle of trying to snag one from ebay. I guess we'll see what happens when the stuff gets delivered and people decide what they want to do with their miniatures.

The Gnosis suit (the sword-wielding one added as a stretch goal) is kickstarter-only right now, but if you mean the THI suits (the industrial ones that already exist in metal), I understand that those are going to be a normally-released product, so you won;t have to get them on Ebay.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

That is exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned it in the first place. I am really interested in picking up the big "armored suit" models personally and would be willing to trade for them or pay a reasonable price. I really don't want the hassle of trying to snag one from ebay. I guess we'll see what happens when the stuff gets delivered and people decide what they want to do with their miniatures.

The Gnosis suit (the sword-wielding one added as a stretch goal) is kickstarter-only right now, but if you mean the THI suits (the industrial ones that already exist in metal), I understand that those are going to be a normally-released product, so you won;t have to get them on Ebay.

I didn't realize that the THI suit was the same as the metal sculpt available already so that's not so important to me in plastic. The Gnosis suit is the one I really would like to have and I would realistically be willing to pay up to $75-80 for one if I had to. I would rather pay around $30 as that's what it probably cost to get in the first place I think. Honestly I don't have the time or the ability to travel around to conventions to try to buy the models from Mike and his team. I would love to meet the man and his wife in person as I have been a fan of their work for a very long time but alas I must continue to admire them from afar.

The thi suits are resin.

ephrael wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:

That is exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned it in the first place. I am really interested in picking up the big "armored suit" models personally and would be willing to trade for them or pay a reasonable price. I really don't want the hassle of trying to snag one from ebay. I guess we'll see what happens when the stuff gets delivered and people decide what they want to do with their miniatures.

The Gnosis suit (the sword-wielding one added as a stretch goal) is kickstarter-only right now, but if you mean the THI suits (the industrial ones that already exist in metal), I understand that those are going to be a normally-released product, so you won;t have to get them on Ebay.

I didn't realize that the THI suit was the same as the metal sculpt available already so that's not so important to me in plastic. The Gnosis suit is the one I really would like to have and I would realistically be willing to pay up to $75-80 for one if I had to. I would rather pay around $30 as that's what it probably cost to get in the first place I think. Honestly I don't have the time or the ability to travel around to conventions to try to buy the models from Mike and his team. I would love to meet the man and his wife in person as I have been a fan of their work for a very long time but alas I must continue to admire them from afar.

Is the Gnosis suit limited to the kickstarter only? I could be completely wrong about this, but I recall there being a statement that the only figures that would not be released outside of the kickstarter are the homage characters. It might be worthwhile to wait and see, or look into this rather than get fleeced on Ebay.

weird double post.

There will be an elite (non commander) version of the Gnosis suit at some point according to Rob Baxter whether Kara's version gets a general release remains to be seen (that's up to CMON as the distributor) but you will be able to get these in some form later on.

Posted by Rob:
Yes, there will eventually be non-commander gnosis armor, but you can be guaranteed that most gnosis pilots are hero level characters at least. No troopers in gnosis.

Also, Gnosis armor contains a pretty sophisticated antiviral and antinano suite of defenses, not to mention an internal medical system.



It will be interesting to see what prices some more exclusive figures fetch after the KS plenty of people seem to have bought a few sets so as to sell some on and make back some of their money back I think a lot of people saw what the Zombicide stuff was selling for and then saw dollar signs. I went for We've got Movement (3xBiohazard) and 2 of every option but 2 sets are for me and there's very little I'd sell on from them if anything the 3rd set (pus a set of options) is for my nephew.

I don't think there is much chance of getting the LE figures for cheaper on Dakka seeing as the only reason people would be wanting to sell them is if they bought extras for that very purpose! Trading the troopers or strain however will probably work out well though I will probably hang onto everything myself.

I didn't realize that the THI suit was the same as the metal sculpt available already so that's not so important to me in plastic.

I didn't realize the current one was in resin (thanks CURNOW) but I know they said the kickstarter plastic ones will have all the weapons options (2x claws, 1x of each ranged arm). I got one of them for just that reason so I could field it in open games as a type of "commander suit", though it was before the Gnosis came out in the stretch goals! (That ending Saturday was my wedding, so I was a little occupied)

If you buy the THI suits or strain models in the uk direct, they are resin. If you buy them from CMON, they are metal...