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The first ammo type is from Eyris and removes Focus and Upkeeps. Second one steals a single Focus/Fury. Third one makes you Def 7 and can't run/charge for one round.

Admonition lets you move without taking a Free Strike after someone ends their move within I believe three inches of you.
Boundless Charge lets you Charge for free, +2".
Fury is Additional Damage Die for model/unit.
Inhospitable Ground makes your Ctrl area Difficult Ground.

The archangel is just about what I was expecting. I was hoping for either a little more hp and 12" range on the gun or 19 points but I'm not surprised by how it turned out. What is surprising is how bad the animus is, range:self ruins what could otherwise be a fun and useful addition to the big dragon.
Overall it is fast and robust melee beater or a somewhat mobile platform for a gun that doesn't quite add up to the points cost. It is more of a big carnivean than a big ravagore and I'm ok with that. I'm glad it isn't so good it feels required but getting a bigger version of what the faction is used to leaves it feeling a little bland.

Rask and the warpborn alpha are both very good. I can only hope the warspear officer is close to that level of goodness.

RNG self on a huge base is no small thing. Two units of dudes
can probably take out a colossal in melee. The animus
guarantees that they will want to use their heavies to make
that trade rather than push their units and catch on fire.

 malfred wrote:
RNG self on a huge base is no small thing. Two units of dudes
can probably take out a colossal in melee. The animus
guarantees that they will want to use their heavies to make
that trade rather than push their units and catch on fire.

I think its less of a deterrent than you may realize. Losing two thirds of a good unit could very well be worth the kind of tempo swing removing a 20pt model could bring -especially when that unit is in range to get shot up by 2-4 aoe attacks next turn anyway. If it was range 6" and beast only a warlock could toss that animus out on a seraph and a pair of lessers while the gargantuan hovers close behind for a much more difficult choice for the opposition. As it stands I have a hard time seeing having your own models set on fire is only really a deterrent to running to engage a gargantuan or warlock, which is normally a suicide mission anyway.

RNG self on a huge base is amazing. Sure it's not as flexible
as Tenacity, but do people deny the beauty of Harriers
having Perfect Strike?

 AduroT wrote:
Several spoilers from the newest No Quarter.

Rask is impressive. Looks like he'll fill several traditional weaknesses of the Gatormen (delivering their infantry into melee against ranged or super-fast lists, and cracking heavy armour) very neatly, and also be a nightmare to assassinate, unless you have anti-healing measures on your side.

I'm really happy with the Skinwalker UA, and not just because I just bought a unit of 5 of them. Options of either doubling their melee power (and thank heaven it's not Backswing, after that recent ruling) or making them even more stubborn on the defensive? Yes please!


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 Dais wrote:
I think its less of a deterrent than you may realize. Losing two thirds of a good unit could very well be worth the kind of tempo swing removing a 20pt model could bring -especially when that unit is in range to get shot up by 2-4 aoe attacks next turn anyway. If it was range 6" and beast only a warlock could toss that animus out on a seraph and a pair of lessers while the gargantuan hovers close behind for a much more difficult choice for the opposition. As it stands I have a hard time seeing having your own models set on fire is only really a deterrent to running to engage a gargantuan or warlock, which is normally a suicide mission anyway.

The right buffs can make this thing damn tough. Absylonia or Bethayne + a Shredder can have this thing running around at DEF 14, ARM 19 on a model that can't be knocked down. That's pretty huge when it come to survivability. MAT 7 infantry (the value of most weapon masters) will be missing this on a 6 or less, and other heavies will either have a similar miss rate or be spending their focus on attack boosts.

Though most heavies would probably boost on the initial attack anyways to ensure the boosted damage from a charge. I mean, even without buffs, just boosting to hit, Mulg can do on average can do 23 to 29.5 damage (assuming all attacks hit and eDoomie is on the board, but then again, why wouldn't Mulg have Wild Aggression lol)

 Alfndrate wrote:
Though most heavies would probably boost on the initial attack anyways to ensure the boosted damage from a charge.

And it's fine if they do. Against most other colossals / gargantuans, that focus or fury point would be getting spent on an extra melee attack that would hit on anything but a double 1.

I mean, even without buffs, just boosting to hit, Mulg can do on average can do 23 to 29.5 damage (assuming all attacks hit and eDoomie is on the board, but then again, why wouldn't Mulg have Wild Aggression lol)

Sneak Peak of Skorne Mammoth:

Holy ****

It tends to be the good guns that make the Colossals, so maybe the Mammoth will be packing enough fire power to make it better than the other Gargantuans so far shown.

It looks like it has a Triceratops like bone crown, minus the horns of course. Thats kinda cool!

Awesome! Big <3 for you Tides

Is PP still getting all the colossi / gargantuans out before Xmas? Galleon should make it and see all the WM side out, but it would seem early 2013 sees the archangel / mammoth hitting, just as far as spacing things out suggests.

- Salvage

Does the Angel's draconic aura simply set you on fire (continuous fire) or do 1d3 damage and set you on fire? If the latter, it is pretty insane. The former, no so much, but still mean on a front line caster.

Loving the rules for the Skinwalker UA! So excited for that to drop!

In terms of killing colossals, I watched 2 Tharn Ravagers (one with heart token) and Kromac in beast form dismantle a Stormclad last night, without Kromac feating. It was... surprising.

Lol Salvage . I also think I have heard early 2013 for gargantuans, even the book. Will double check.

I would not have expected that, Wehr!

They need to get this book out faster. I want to see Epic Morvahna's stats. Yea... her stats.

Gargantuans book is March, and they ain't all coming out before the end of the year. I don't even believe the last Colossal is coming out till early 2013.

Book in March =

But I'm using my Mountain King with the quickstart rules, so that's good enough . Just not sure why the book needs to be so delayed when models are already out and folks are already using them.

 RiTides wrote:
Book in March =

But I'm using my Mountain King with the quickstart rules, so that's good enough . Just not sure why the book needs to be so delayed when models are already out and folks are already using them.

It's their release schedule.

Models models models book models models models.

Does Rask only work for the gatormen, or will he work for factions, too? Putting fury on Wolf Lord Morraig sounds pretty sick, for a P+S 13 6d6 charge with flank. >.< Not to mention admonition and Boundless Charge in Circle...

Live in fear.

 Nagashek wrote:
Does Rask only work for the gatormen, or will he work for factions, too? Putting fury on Wolf Lord Morraig sounds pretty sick, for a P+S 13 6d6 charge with flank. >.< Not to mention admonition and Boundless Charge in Circle...

Live in fear.

You can only take minion / mercenary warlocks if you're playing a game big enough for two (or using the Unbound rules). And assuming he'll work for Circle, of course.

 Elemental wrote:

 Nagashek wrote:
Does Rask only work for the gatormen, or will he work for factions, too? Putting fury on Wolf Lord Morraig sounds pretty sick, for a P+S 13 6d6 charge with flank. >.< Not to mention admonition and Boundless Charge in Circle...

Live in fear.

You can only take minion / mercenary warlocks if you're playing a game big enough for two (or using the Unbound rules). And assuming he'll work for Circle, of course.

The first part I knew, the second part was my question. My first question was really only that I was under some impression that some minion locks only work for their pig-man or fish-man federations...

Ah, right. No, minion warlocks so far can all work for one or more of the big four factions.

It would also depend on if the spell says friendly model or friendly faction model.

Rask sounds fun---and sounds like a more solid answer against heavy armor than Cal.

Sweet! Skylander Giants Minis!

Even his theme list is nasty. Faster Totem Hunters??

So is this like an undead bog trog?

12thRonin wrote:
Even his theme list is nasty. Faster Totem Hunters??

Only 1.

Totem Hunter is THE Totem Hunter. He's a character