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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 11:01:49
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Small update by an anonymous source on Warseer:
Hi,
the translation of the next eldar codex has started (or so it seems)...
All plastic minis stay the same for the moment including jetbikes
Wraithguards will be plastic with a HtH option (swords)
A new Farseer model (finecast iirc)
a character for Dire Avengers, a new entry "something-seer"
That's all I got for the moment!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 11:08:20
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Confessor Of Sins
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Hand-to-hand Wraithguard?
I wouldn't have seen that one coming.
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Cratfworld Alaitoc (Gallery)
Order of the Red Mantle (Gallery)
Grand (little) Army of Chaos, now painting! (Blog) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 11:33:07
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Pretty vague, though HtH Wraithguard sounds pretty cool. A lil sad the Eldar plastics will stay the same, was really hoping to see some revamped Eldar jetbikes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 12:03:37
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I'm doubting this one, if only for the jetbikes staying the same - GW would make a fortune on the new jetbikes, and one would hope that they'd know that, and therefore not miss a trick by keeping the old ones.
Sword-weilding Wraithguard would undoubtedly look cool, but would it serve an in-game purpose?
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"Pit Crew! Take this box out back, throw in a rabid Honey Badger and SET IT ON FIRE!"
If I were an Eskimo, I'd build my igloo next to a supermarket on a tropical beach. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 12:05:15
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Confessor Of Sins
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A high toughness/strength, good save close combat unit? I'll take 2, thank you.
Of course, it depends on what kind of close combat weapons they get.
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Cratfworld Alaitoc (Gallery)
Order of the Red Mantle (Gallery)
Grand (little) Army of Chaos, now painting! (Blog) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 12:07:53
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Lady of the Lake
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Finally melee wraithguard. Now to wait for a fast moving melee wraithlord.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 13:14:08
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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They'll get Eldar versions of Imperial close combat weapons but with lower strength and wonky special rules that don't even nearly make up for it. And they'll cost twice as many points as the Imperial counterparts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 13:17:09
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Lady of the Lake
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Such is the way of the Eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 13:22:53
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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I could totally see Melee Wraithguard, after the Melee Oblits we got.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 13:58:56
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Melee Wraithguards had been hinted at before, and there's even a fandex that gives them the option. But more than anything...
GIVE US NEW JETBIKES!
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4500 Points
3500 (1500 painting, using Lizardmen models) http://imgur.com/a/Y28Fw#0
3000 Points of Heralds of Arcadia (Space Marines) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 14:19:57
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Defending Guardian Defender
Japan
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They've had those reposed jetbikes on hold for years. Is there any reason at all they would keep them back? The helmets dont even look like current Eldar helmets.
Also the DA named character is pretty intrinsic to the fluff. He's the guy that sort of made aspect warriors, IIRC. Cant see him moving way to another DA character.
Which kinda makes me doubt this. Although I do so want to believe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 15:16:36
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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I expected the jetbikes to stay the same, after they released the SCannon and Shining Spear upgrade packs.
The sculpts may be old, but still do the job.
As for the others, Wraithguard options looks good, as a single multi-pack with a sprue of arms, maybe...
This matches the OP's post:
"plastic Wraithguard/Cataphracts".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 15:28:43
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Screaming Shining Spear
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... but the Cataphracts turned out to be Mk1 Terminator armour, so I'm doubting the validity of the original rumour
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"Pit Crew! Take this box out back, throw in a rabid Honey Badger and SET IT ON FIRE!"
If I were an Eskimo, I'd build my igloo next to a supermarket on a tropical beach. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 16:29:27
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Myrmidon Officer
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finnan wrote:... but the Cataphracts turned out to be Mk1 Terminator armour, so I'm doubting the validity of the original rumour
Just because they're both called "Cataphracts"?
The Eldar models may go by a different name because of Space Marine favoritism, but on the other hand, GW hasn't shied away from calling multiple things by the same name (Scorpion, Warrior).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 16:32:38
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Warrior is a fairly generic term, but Cataphract is pretty specific - I can't see GW using it for two different products from two different races. (I don't see wraithlords being called dreadnoughts these days - same principle) If it turns out that they do, I'll eat my hat.
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"Pit Crew! Take this box out back, throw in a rabid Honey Badger and SET IT ON FIRE!"
If I were an Eskimo, I'd build my igloo next to a supermarket on a tropical beach. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 10:04:11
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Since the Cataphract name was taken from the same post that included "resin box Halcones Cazadores", I assume it's a mis-translation/alternate of the final name.
They're all in the OP's copy-paste from ProjectBiomorph.com.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 12:34:38
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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[DCM]
Procrastinator extraordinaire
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Is a hand to hand Wraithguard very fluffy though? From all the Eldar lore I've read, there is no mention of a hand to hand wraithguard, just the shooty one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 12:48:56
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Executing Exarch
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All the new stuff has to come from somewhere...
Look at the Helldrake, Maulerfiend and forgefiend?
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Blacksails wrote:
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 13:03:12
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
New Zealand
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Tyranid Horde wrote:Is a hand to hand Wraithguard very fluffy though? From all the Eldar lore I've read, there is no mention of a hand to hand wraithguard, just the shooty one.
There are huge numbers of references to Ghost/Wraith Warriors, they are so widely used that to me its kind of a stretch to assume they all have the exact same weaponry. They are also increasingly in use given race wide decline in Eldar numbers, so from that side of things you can easily justify them getting new loadouts to handle their expanding use. There are also some sources which point to Wraithguard (or Wraithguard like) constructs being around since the Fall of the Eldar (if not before) and given that the Eldar have improved their technology since then the older versions would probably have had more basic weaponry anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 15:13:27
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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No sure of cc wraithguard is fluffy but it would be cool non the less.
Throw in the warlock upgrade they need and it has real potential if they can get into combat.
I love the current jetbike though I hate the figures on them. Mine are all custom to be a mostly female squad using DE whyches torsos and legs (I had to cut and reposition the bent leg), and the featureless reaver full helmets. Bare arms with some bits of armor give them a nice feminine look. They each have a close combat weapon arm raised to show off their (ahem) beautiful and deadly forms.
My shruiken cannon upgrades are male using Dire Avenger Exarch upper torsos and storm guardian top knots. Just the way it goes that the men get the big guns.
I wanted a mostly female JB squad to stand apart from the rest of the force but the elder female torso just looked like guardians with boobs (lol, that is after all what they are) plus the standard guardian legs and helmets did not help and I wanted something a bit more feminine. The whyches are elder enough with the full reaver heads to pass in my army with my craftworld colors and some skin showing.
I would love to see seer council bikes, I really like the chapter house conversions.
I am seriously thinking of getting the chapter house upgrades, any feedback on them?
Glad to hear plastics will not change. Was not looking forward to an overhaul of guardians though a duel defender/ storm guardian kit would rock.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 19:21:59
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Dakka Veteran
Anime High School
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Plastic eldar... Yum. I've always liked eldar. Nice and easy to paint, but complicated enough to get detailed. And of course, who doesn't like painting wraithbone
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 22:40:27
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Stubborn White Lion
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Another idea on the zentarch is if they look all fancy and HQ like they could be a type of autarch that only specialized in one aspect and therefore make that aspect troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 22:52:34
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I'll take it! I'll take all of it !
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I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member. -Groucho Marx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 23:16:51
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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[DCM]
Procrastinator extraordinaire
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Mantle wrote:Another idea on the zentarch is if they look all fancy and HQ like they could be a type of autarch that only specialized in one aspect and therefore make that aspect troops.
That's also known as an Exarch, sorry to burst your bubble, Autarchs have mastered all aspects so you can't have an autarch specializing in one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 23:29:05
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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A cc version of Wraithguard is actually very old fluff, in a way.
Back in 1st edition, Eldar had constructs that were called Wraith warriors, which wielded twin powerfists and a head mounted flamer or shuriken catapult. They were essentially the Eldar version of Imperial Robots, and I am assuming they were replaced by Wraithguard in 2ed.
I could totally see a new version or Wraithguard that wield two-handed Direswords, much like the Wraithsword a Lord can take, and maybe a shoulder mounted Avenger Catapult. It's immensely fluffy given the tragic decline of the Eldar, where they are being forced to use their "dead" as troops, even though that is abhorrent to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 23:36:26
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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[DCM]
Procrastinator extraordinaire
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AegisGrimm wrote:A cc version of Wraithguard is actually very old fluff, in a way.
Back in 1st edition, Eldar had constructs that were called Wraith warriors, which wielded twin powerfists and a head mounted flamer or shuriken catapult. They were essentially the Eldar version of Imperial Robots, and I am assuming they were replaced by Wraithguard in 2ed.
I could totally see a new version or Wraithguard that wield two-handed Direswords, much like the Wraithsword a Lord can take, and maybe a shoulder mounted Avenger Catapult. It's immensely fluffy given the tragic decline of the Eldar, where they are being forced to use their "dead" as troops, even though that is abhorrent to them.
That explains why I haven't heard of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 23:59:29
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I can see it now
A unit of wraithknight (that could be the name) leading the charge with a unit of wraithguard marching behind fore fire support while wraithlords moving from the flanks while hailing fire on to the enemy.
I am liking what i am dreaming
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 00:38:47
Subject: Eldar rumours
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Gavin Thorne wrote:Halcones Cazadores
Falcon Hunters?
An interesting rumor, but I'll hold my frothing-at-the-mouth excitement until later in the year.
Swooping Hawks, just a slightly altered translation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 00:50:15
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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What's the latest rumor for release? Early 2014?
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Lady Luck may be fickle, but she loves a man who tries and tries again. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/07 01:53:08
Subject: Eldar rumours (big update 25th July)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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I will be very surprised if we don't see new Jetbikes. Jes Goodwin stated that he was working on new Jetbikes after he finished the Dark Eldar line.
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