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not bad, but a bright stallion would have been so much cooler.

Hope they make some of the apsect in plastic, if not, this released would be as pointless as the Tombk king one

Awesome. Awesome, awesome, awesome. And the news that there will be an Iyanden supplement is very cool as well.

Knight:

Head is far too small.

Back Vanes/Wings should have been far larger and more dramatic, like the original titan.

Hands/arms are too small.

Basically, if you are just going to make a giant wraithlord, make a giant wraithlord...

It currently looks like it should be in the army for dropzone commander... Shaltari(?).


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I wonder if the flyer is the voidraven bomber and both eldar armies get to use it? That would boost sales for it.

 Macok wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
*Sigh* It's a model of an Eldar Knight, ready-made to be playable in 40K, and in plastic at that. People have been clamoring for Knight-scale titans for years, but suddenly hate them when they come out because they are "too big" for 40K.

I guess you can't please anyone nowadays. *shrug* Just don't buy one.

You could also try to guess that within a large group of people there are ones that like something and others who don't like the same thing.
That definitely does not mean that each and every one likes and at the same time dislikes that thing.

Nah, that'd be too much work, better to insult everyone instead like a slack-jawed yokel.

......Really? Pot shouldn't call the kettle black.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I just see an overwhelmingly large number of people nit-picking one picture of a model to death.

You can't nitpick something to death. You just clean it of nits.

But stupid jokes aside, Wraithknight model looks almost objectively awesome. It's big, dynamic, cool, grimdark in fluff and has lots of guns. Everything you need for a power fantasy. Only a few actually disagree with this.

But we already have these kinds of models in spades, jsut not titan size. Sometimes people just want something different and exiting out of the biggest miniatures company in the world. And sometimes they are disappointed. I am one of those people and can't blame them.

I've longed for titan-style units for Eldar for a long time. I think I'd prefered a tank for the speed, but seriously? This thing looks quite dynamic. Think of the poses!

once again... I miss the jetpack of the titans or corsair walkers

 AegisGrimm wrote:
......Really? Pot shouldn't call the kettle black.

"You know what the difference between you and me is? I make this look good."

Also, precision. General vs. specific. Also, if this is "overwhelming" nitpicking then sorry, but you get overwhelmed far too easily. This is nothing compared to people's reactions to Mantic mishaps, to finecast problems or a number of topics that actually do produce substantial traffic.

I've longed for titan-style units for Eldar for a long time. I think I'd prefered a tank for the speed, but seriously? This thing looks quite dynamic. Think of the poses!

Isn't there supposed to be a new tank coming for the Eldar? I though I heard something about that. I know I'd love to see the Hornet in plastic!

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I just see an overwhelmingly large number of people nit-picking one picture of a model to death.

"Nit-picking" implies that our criticism of the model is invalid because it is entirely with regard to small issues that don't matter. I happen to think the silhouette of the miniature is a large matter. Other people think the role of the Wraithknight in the Eldar background is a large matter. If you don't agree with us, you're welcome to do so. If you want to explain why you disagree with us, you're welcome to do so. But sighing and trying to pretend that no criticism of the thing you like is valid isn't a very useful way to discuss things on a discussion board. This isn't a team sport. If a large number of people don't like the model you like, it doesn't magically make you unable to buy that model. And if a large number of people like the model I dislike it doesn't magically make my opinion disappear. We don't have to lump everyone who disagrees with us into one giant pool and then get exasperated because they don't think what we want them to think.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

I've longed for titan-style units for Eldar for a long time. I think I'd prefered a tank for the speed, but seriously? This thing looks quite dynamic. Think of the poses!

Isn't there supposed to be a new tank coming for the Eldar? I though I heard something about that. I know I'd love to see the Hornet in plastic!

*Sigh* now that would truly make me happy... unfortunately GW doesn't like to copy FW very much... aside from maybe the Baneblade. I'd love to see plastic Hornets, Wasps, Nightwings and Revenants...

Instead we get this minititan... And I'm quite content ^^

 Hermetic wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
lol, and people call Tau anime....wow. Giant feet, skinny legs and arms, metal loincloth for some reason, wasp-like torso...

Oh come on, that's not fair, I mean it's not like it's powered by the dead souls of loved ones or functions on the loneliness and pain of its pilo--

Yet deep within its chest, an Eldar pilot weeps for the death of his twin, interred alongside him in one [of] the Wraithknight's spirit stones.

--You may be on to something here...

Glad I wasn't the only one noticing that. This one is really giving an Evangelion vibe. I didn't even notice the physical resemblance before, just the text.

I for one give one huge to this, it's getting better and better.

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reaper with no name wrote:
Once again, the Wraithknight is, by all appearances, Wraithlord 2.0. Why do we need two versions of the same unit?

We have Terminators. Why do we need Space Marines?

Etc, etc

I can see one of these Wraithknights leading a few Wraithlords as a spearhead force. I doubt that Eldar are going to get the Carnifex/Monolith treatment with this new unit, especially if it ends up being an Elite like the Riptide.

Flood wrote:Sitting here completely in a daze imagining the SM, Ork and Tyranid mega-walker-thingies that will appear now...

Even if it's years and years away now, I can't wait to see what a Necron mega-walker will be. Here's hoping for that false-rumoured Necromancer!

 Gavin Thorne wrote:


This was my first bit of speculation as well. The arms on the WK do look awful slim from the angle they were shot from, but I think that's exacerbated by the thickness of the legs. The torso is ripe for a third-party to make a less bulky and more wraith-centric version of. Know anyone willing to hop on that wagon?

If it was me I'd just bolt on Eldar bitz to an Evangellion mech.

They look a lot better and even more 'Eldar' than the Wraith Knight.

Every single time something new gets released from GW its the same thing: Some autistic and overtly paranoid "pro gamers" cry out in dismay and wail in unison that this will destroy said race and the game will die horribly because of this new addition.
Get... over..it! The model is comming and there is nothing you can do about it. Stop crying, gather your 2nd ed minis and go pretend its the past in a closet without internet connection.

 tarnish wrote:
Every single time something new gets released from GW its the same thing: Some autistic and overtly paranoid "pro gamers" cry out in dismay and wail in unison that this will destroy said race and the game will die horribly because of this new addition.
Get... over..it! The model is comming and there is nothing you can do about it. Stop crying, gather your 2nd ed minis and go pretend its the past in a closet without internet connection.

Amen. They probably don't even lift.

Its funny because back when apocalypse came out i had a trio of evangelion kits id converted into Revenant Titans (or whatever the smaller eldar titan is called)... They looked great, then one day I saw one in person and realizing that my evangelion conversions were half their size, I tossed them...

Some comments on the cover: Pretty nice, I like the old farseer look and the grimdarktm colouring. But isn't the seer looking a bit too... I don't know, offensive? The farseer as I know him is a support character while the Warlocks are the more war(lock)like of the eldar psychers.
Another thing: Doesn't the jetbikes in the background look alot like the old jetbikes we've had for years now?... does that mean we won't get our shiny new hover-toys?

Part of me hope not... I'm going to be poor as a church rat already from the two Wraithknights and the codex I'm going to preorder

Proportions are better with a pic with a better angle;

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=22b5&s=5

This thing is huge, Those scatter lasers are tiny!

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
"You know what the difference between you and me is? I make this look good."

Using quotes from crappy movies to justify being a pr*ck is the new black I hear.

Problem is, its and eldar riptide.


Big giant thing with a gun in one hand and a tiny shield on the other arm.

Its like GW saw PP's gargantuan line and say "oh yeah, we can do that too!" but instead of making varied and distinct looking large models, they're just cloning the same formula.


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Although, I sort of retract my comment on it looking just like a riptide.

If this thing is on the normal oval base, this this is going to be MONSTROUS.

Looking at my riptide, its leg 'span is only about 2/3's of the base's length. Looking at the proportions on this Wraithknight, and the leg span, this thing is going to dwarf the riptide.

Goresaw wrote:
Problem is, its and eldar riptide.


Big giant thing with a gun in one hand and a tiny shield on the other arm.

Its like GW saw PP's gargantuan line and say "oh yeah, we can do that too!" but instead of making varied and distinct looking large models, they're just cloning the same formula.


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Although, I sort of retract my comment on it looking just like a riptide.

If this thing is on the normal oval base, this this is going to be MONSTROUS.

Looking at my riptide, its leg 'span is only about 2/3's of the base's length. Looking at the proportions on this Wraithknight, and the leg span, this thing is going to dwarf the riptide.

I'm just praying it's big enough that I can proxy in a revenant in place of the godawful model.

I like the supplements idea, if they aren't too expensive. It means some of the Marines chapters could be sorted in a quicker way, and I might even get some Chaos Legions along the way.

In fact, if there's one Codex Astartes and every Marine chapter is a sub-codex, I would be very happy.

 Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:
I like the supplements idea, if they aren't too expensive. It means some of the Marines chapters could be sorted in a quicker way, and I might even get some Chaos Legions along the way.

In fact, if there's one Codex Astartes and every Marine chapter is a sub-codex, I would be very happy.

Yeah, while it might hurt the wallet, in the case of SM and CSM handling Chapters / Legions like this might be very useful.

 Da Weirdboy wrote:

 Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:
I like the supplements idea, if they aren't too expensive. It means some of the Marines chapters could be sorted in a quicker way, and I might even get some Chaos Legions along the way.

In fact, if there's one Codex Astartes and every Marine chapter is a sub-codex, I would be very happy.

Yeah, while it might hurt the wallet, in the case of SM and CSM handling Chapters / Legions like this might be very useful.

I wonder if GW will release a "Harlequin-centric" subcodex now?

Just.Take.My.Wallet.Now!

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

I wonder if the flyer is the voidraven bomber and both eldar armies get to use it? That would boost sales for it.

Oh I hope this is the case!

Goresaw wrote:


Its like GW saw PP's gargantuan line and say "oh yeah, we can do that too!" but instead of making varied and distinct looking large models, they're just cloning the same formula.

I don't follow this line of reasoning. Even if GW saw PP's Colossals and thought "Hm...we need over-sized models" who cares as long as players get cool new mega-models to play with and that fit within the aesthetic of each army. Just because Tau got a big mecha before Eldar did that means the space elves have to go without? And because PP came out with Colossals last year GW can't include big models for this year's release? Is PP guilty of copying Forge World's titans? Or hell, Armorcast's Titans and large scale Battlemechs from last decade? I am honestly confused here. Or is your comment really just about two large battle suits having a gun and shield in a game that involves shooting and melee combat?

Seriously, not trying to be a pain, I am just really confused by some of the responses shown online since these photos were posted. If you don't like how the new Eldar suit looks, okay. If you don't like each new codex release featuring an over-sized model, that is okay too (though I feel the opposite). But I fail to see how this Eldar model is derivative of other faction's or even other companies models.

I plan on getting one and I am going to have it painted up to match my Harlequin Revenant Titan because this new suit bears a lot of similarities to the FW Eldar titans in my opinion.

Gonna be an agonising wait for more pictures/info,

So excited.

My problem with the wraithknight model is the crazy paint job. I know they're going traditional Saim-Hann colors but the almost solid red body and white head is very disconcerting. It works somewhat for smaller infantry but not so much scaled up. I'd prefer that red be broken up more. Also some shading would've been nice to bring out the edges.

This is not the scheme I would have gone with to show off the new model.

PleaseDontExplode wrote:

Goresaw wrote:
Problem is, its and eldar riptide.


Big giant thing with a gun in one hand and a tiny shield on the other arm.

Its like GW saw PP's gargantuan line and say "oh yeah, we can do that too!" but instead of making varied and distinct looking large models, they're just cloning the same formula.


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Although, I sort of retract my comment on it looking just like a riptide.

If this thing is on the normal oval base, this this is going to be MONSTROUS.

Looking at my riptide, its leg 'span is only about 2/3's of the base's length. Looking at the proportions on this Wraithknight, and the leg span, this thing is going to dwarf the riptide.

I'm just praying it's big enough that I can proxy in a revenant in place of the godawful model.

Yes, this model is truly godawful. Thank you for that wonderful analysis and critique of the new release based off of a poorly captured 2D representation of a 3D object. Your opinion i absolutely correct, this model is "godawful", it is the worst piece of crap model I have ever seen from any company everywhere. This model looks like it was sculpted from human feces by a 3rd grader. It is godawful. So godawful. Just, godawful. Godawful. So godawful we should all PRAY to our deity of choice that we can proxy in something else so we don't sully our wonderful hands, with which we ourselves make masterpieces of art, by utilizing such a horrid waste of plastic as this godawful model.

Yes, yes thank you for the enlightenment there, PleaseDontExplode, while I wasnt the biggest fan of the sculpt from the word go, I thought it passable and not bad, but you have pointed out to me how truly godawful a sculpt it is. It is so godawful that it makes me weep tears of unicorn blood and vomit acid just thinking about it. It is so godawful I must pray to a higher being for salvation from this disgrace of a model....

Seriously people, get a grip. Dont be so quick to judge by a couple of grainy photos, and if you dont like it, thats fine, but come on, godawful? Praying you can proxy in something else? Get a life, its a game, and while it may NOT be aesthetically pleasing to you it is by no means "godawful" given that it is well defined and detailed, and while the proportions may seem "off" it is actually pretty spot-on relative to proportions of the infsntry etc. snd thr overall aesthetic of the universe . There is no need to pray for an alternative either, as it IS just a game, nobody is FORCING you to take one.

Simply saying "I'm not a fan, I think I'll pass." is more than enough to express your dislike and disinterest in something, without making you sound like an overdramatic teenage girl. Try it sometime.

Here's a roughly done size comparison. I took a pic of the riptide at roughly the same base angle, and then made the bases roughly the same size.

http://i43.tinypic.com/11jmyxe.jpg

The riptide, which is already a massive model, is absolutely dwarfed by this thing.

Or maybe this thing isn't on an oval base. Thats always a possibility.

EDIT: Yeah, I think the only thing that makes sense is the Wraithknight is on the same sized base as the Wraithlord. Just a standard dreadnought base.

Its going to be much bigger than the wraithlord and probably roughly riptide size.