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2013/05/20 14:58:48
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
Are you counting that release list you posted? I don't usually count 'leaks' when we are this close. It really isn't a rumor when you're a week out except in some specific circumstances.
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2013/05/20 15:03:07
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
Are you counting that release list you posted? I don't usually count 'leaks' when we are this close. It really isn't a rumor when you're a week out except in some specific circumstances.
Okay
I (and I imagine a lot of others) do really appreciate it. The leak for the release list helps me run down the other rumors and give out a bunch of true/falses.
Just because you don't get a true, doesn't mean that we don't appreciate you.
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2013/05/20 15:03:15
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
So your telling me that a super heavy walker is cheaper than a normal 40k kit?
Wow GW logic right there...
Well technically the Wraithknight is a Knight class titan. It's the same height as a stompa and just about 2-3 inches shorter than a Warhound titan. Just because is has a much slimmer frame and that they are now including small titans in normal 40k lists, doesn't mean GW will charge less.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the price, however people have been begging for plastic titans for ages, and now they get them. They just shouldn't be surprised GW is going to charge an arm and a leg for them.
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2013/05/20 15:12:19
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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2013/05/20 15:13:50
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
I'm pissed that Dire Avengers went from a 10 to a box..down to 5 per box. That means even with 2 boxes you only have 8 regular guys and 2 exarchs...dumb. Why screw with that boxed set at all? It was fine as is. It would be nice if the Eldar got a troop/ aspect box that contains a full unit.
CaptKaruthors wrote: I'm pissed that Dire Avengers went from a 10 to a box..down to 5 per box. That means even with 2 boxes you only have 8 regular guys and 2 exarchs...dumb. Why screw with that boxed set at all? It was fine as is. It would be nice if the Eldar got a troop/ aspect box that contains a full unit.
Because Dire Avengers are 50 points a piece now and when bladestorming have Assault 12 S5 AP3 guns.
Oh wait, we have no idea what's happening yet.
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2013/05/20 15:20:19
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
CaptKaruthors wrote: I'm pissed that Dire Avengers went from a 10 to a box..down to 5 per box. That means even with 2 boxes you only have 8 regular guys and 2 exarchs...dumb. Why screw with that boxed set at all? It was fine as is. It would be nice if the Eldar got a troop/ aspect box that contains a full unit.
No, it's 5 dire avengers with the option of making an Exarch.
CaptKaruthors wrote: I'm pissed that Dire Avengers went from a 10 to a box..down to 5 per box. That means even with 2 boxes you only have 8 regular guys and 2 exarchs...dumb. Why screw with that boxed set at all? It was fine as is. It would be nice if the Eldar got a troop/ aspect box that contains a full unit.
GW has realized that the WFB method of boxsets is ..far.. superior. Why make people 1 box per unit when you can buy 2 or 3 or 4?
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2013/05/20 15:23:02
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
CaptKaruthors wrote: I'm pissed that Dire Avengers went from a 10 to a box..down to 5 per box. That means even with 2 boxes you only have 8 regular guys and 2 exarchs...dumb. Why screw with that boxed set at all? It was fine as is. It would be nice if the Eldar got a troop/ aspect box that contains a full unit.
No, it's 5 dire avengers with the option of making an Exarch.
If only Harlies got that option. Finecast boxes of 5 with a sergeant should be FORBIDDEN.
Finecast should come in 5's ONLY IF there is a separate pack for the sergeant.
2013/05/20 15:30:08
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
Goresaw wrote: Broadsides and pathfinders were simply re-released models.
To my knowledge, they're selling quite well.
The original Broadside was an awful kit to put together for people who knew what they were doing, let alone GW's current target demographic. It was also a hybrid kit which GW no longer wishes to produce. There were strong technical and business reasons for that kit to be re-done that are, apparently, lacking for the Aspects in GW's opinion.
The Pathfinders are really the odd ones out in the recent trend. There's a few new options included though, and the new drones to help push sales. However, even if that was a toe in the pool to see how well a re-release sells we wouldn't be seeing any changes from that for another few months with the way GW does their pipline I'd wager.
2013/05/20 15:37:15
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
Whats this about the end times being upon us? Is some beef about to go down in the 40k universe?
I doubt it. From the Eldar perspective we've been in the end times since well before Guardians got turned into cannon fodder. Dying race and all.
I'm not sure if the trailers are getting better. I mean, this one was just stock art and lens flares. At least the Tau trailer showed us an actual model. I'd go so far as to say the Tau teaser set the standard of what a teaser for a miniature release should be, and pretty much everything else I've seen has been inferior. This one is better than the High Elf teaser at least, as it focuses on the models being released and not the enemies of the models being released, but by not showing any models I'm a little worried. Is that a sign GW has no confidence in their own releases? Or is it because they wanted to focus in on tight shots of glowing hand drawings? This would have been a perfect place to show us the Wraithknight or the rumored Spirit Seer. In fact, during that trailer, right after they say the word "rise", that would have been the perfect time for a close-up shot of the Spirit Seer's head, followed by a sillhouette shot of the Spirit Seer next to the Wraithknight. So was that not done for technical reasons, because no body thought of it, or because the models didn't look good enough, and that such a shot would have reflected badly on the release?
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2013/05/20 15:43:15
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
I see the price of the Wraith knight and start counting on what I payed for ordinary wraithguard...
Not even close.
The flyers has got me exited. Sounds like they will add some clever special rules to the flying game instead of just bombs/missiles and the occacional bright lance.
Heres hoping for transport capacity and some kind of "swoop drop" manouver by that new pilot aspect (to make up for the lost DA transport).
2013/05/20 15:44:02
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
Yeah, the Tau teaser was really the best yet as they showed bits of an actual model and what they should aspire to. Next two teasers have been meh in comparison.
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2013/05/20 15:44:21
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
Barzam wrote: That.... isn't what I was expecting the Wraithknight to look like. I'm not sure if I like it or not. It seems like once again the head is too small and the arms are kind of puny and short. And is it just me, or does this thing not quite have the same aesthetic as the previous Eldar mecha?
Just like the Riptide, the pilot is not in the head.
The pilot is in the chest. The White Dwarf description of the Wraithknight even says as much.
In regards to it "not having the same aesthetic as the previous Eldar mecha", a large part of that could be because the previous Eldar mecha(i.e. the Revenant and Phantom) both have the pilots in the heads rather than the main torso. In the case of the Wraithknight, the head seems to largely be either decorative or somehow tied to the "spiritstone of the dead twin" that is in the torso with the pilot.
0001/08/12 10:48:12
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
So, looking at the new Wraithknight, it looks cool but I'm wondering...why? The Wraithlord was always supposed to be the big scary multiwound T8 monster, I'm wondering why something...wraithier...lordier...was necessary
Instead of, you know, just making changes to the wraithlord.
that and it's odd having a "knight" being bigger and scarier than a "lord". Also at 9 inches tall, that's huge, it's just a bit smaller than a Forgeworld Revenant Titan.
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2013/05/20 15:48:15
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
That's half an x-box for what amounts to an action figure... I can get a gigantic Tamiya ww2 bomber with 20X the detail and 20X the plastic for that amount... Just wow...
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2013/05/20 15:57:00
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
Well, I was expecting a big wallet hit, but 70£? Ouch. Ok, that one makes me avoid the impulse buy and dread the near price increase.
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