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Yes, though his books aren't as powerful (broken) as Mat Ward's.

GTKA666 wrote:
sooooo phil kelly writing the codex is a good sign? (new player)

If you look at his Dark Eldar dex, yes. If you look at his power armour dexes, no. Eldar are considered to be his baby though, so odds are it's more of the former than the latter.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It reminds me of BTech Aerospace fighters, so I guess that’s why I like it.

I was thinking the fighters from Star Blazers/Yamamoto.

Since the Aerospace fighters were all based on line art from Crusher Joe, I'd say we had similar ideas.


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Nocturnus wrote:

 puma713 wrote:

JB_Man wrote:
These prices are so outrageous. I can't remotely justify this, and it's not even a matter of capability. I simply refuse to pay $115 for a single model. At these prices, I'll sell my massive army and focus on everything else that I have. I like some of the models, and I'm sure the rules will be amazing, but no reasonable person would even consider this. I could max my contribution to my Roth with the money it would take to keep my armies up to date at these prices, or should I say replacing the majority of each army every time (good bye wave serpents, fire prisms, falcons, vypers, etc, etc, etc...) Heaven forbid I actually decide to get into a new army.

GW is pushing harder than ever, and eventually they're going to reach that breaking point for everyone with these prices. This release has done it for me.

Wait until the price increase. Isn't it due soon?

Usually beginning of June. They will probably try to sneak it past us. Of course the whole Dire Avenger situation is ridiculous and probably part of it. /sigh

Good thing I bought all my Tau beforehand, and my brother's had 6,000+ points of Eldar for years and no urge to get a flyer.

For $115 you could buy a taller, more posable, more detailed, and far more intricate Perfect Grade Gundam.

At the risk of sounding like a kiss ass I would just like to thank Kroothawk for slapping all this stuff together. You always have the most comprehensive forums. I always enjoy them and now that it's my turn for the rumor mongering as an eldar playing I"m lovin it.

Chrysis wrote:

GTKA666 wrote:
sooooo phil kelly writing the codex is a good sign? (new player)

If you look at his Dark Eldar dex, yes. If you look at his power armour dexes, no. Eldar are considered to be his baby though, so odds are it's more of the former than the latter.

He is, in general, better at writing xenos books than Imperial or Chaos, where his wacky unit ideas stand out a lot more (for example, Thunderwolves and Dinobots).

And, as said, since Rick Priestly left, Eldar of all kinds have been Kellys baby, so him doing the codex is a good thing.

What the feth? Wraithknight....a giant robot? As a Necron player I protest....where's my giant robot? I mean, c'mon, we're robots already....shouldn't we have been the first to have one????

 Zathras wrote:
What the feth? Wraithknight....a giant robot? As a Necron player I protest....where's my giant robot? I mean, c'mon, we're robots already....shouldn't we have been the first to have one????

Oh it's coming. In about 6 or 7 years

Nocturnus wrote:

 puma713 wrote:

JB_Man wrote:
These prices are so outrageous. I can't remotely justify this, and it's not even a matter of capability. I simply refuse to pay $115 for a single model. At these prices, I'll sell my massive army and focus on everything else that I have. I like some of the models, and I'm sure the rules will be amazing, but no reasonable person would even consider this. I could max my contribution to my Roth with the money it would take to keep my armies up to date at these prices, or should I say replacing the majority of each army every time (good bye wave serpents, fire prisms, falcons, vypers, etc, etc, etc...) Heaven forbid I actually decide to get into a new army.

GW is pushing harder than ever, and eventually they're going to reach that breaking point for everyone with these prices. This release has done it for me.

Wait until the price increase. Isn't it due soon?

Usually beginning of June. They will probably try to sneak it past us. Of course the whole Dire Avenger situation is ridiculous and probably part of it. /sigh

Stuff released within a month or so of the price hike tend to have the price hike included. I wouldn't expect Eldar stuff to go up, but I'd expect the Wraithknight to set a new pricepoint for the price hike.


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 Zathras wrote:
What the feth? Wraithknight....a giant robot? As a Necron player I protest....where's my giant robot? I mean, c'mon, we're robots already....shouldn't we have been the first to have one????

Triarch Stalker.

 -Loki- wrote:

Chrysis wrote:

GTKA666 wrote:
sooooo phil kelly writing the codex is a good sign? (new player)

If you look at his Dark Eldar dex, yes. If you look at his power armour dexes, no. Eldar are considered to be his baby though, so odds are it's more of the former than the latter.

He is, in general, better at writing xenos books than Imperial or Chaos, where his wacky unit ideas stand out a lot more (for example, Thunderwolves and Dinobots).

And, as said, since Rick Priestly left, Eldar of all kinds have been Kellys baby, so him doing the codex is a good thing.

I was thinking more the terrible internal balance of the Space Wolves and Chaos Marines. I don't mind the somewhat unconventional units, it is a Sci/Fi game after all.

 -Loki- wrote:

Nocturnus wrote:

 puma713 wrote:

JB_Man wrote:
These prices are so outrageous. I can't remotely justify this, and it's not even a matter of capability. I simply refuse to pay $115 for a single model. At these prices, I'll sell my massive army and focus on everything else that I have. I like some of the models, and I'm sure the rules will be amazing, but no reasonable person would even consider this. I could max my contribution to my Roth with the money it would take to keep my armies up to date at these prices, or should I say replacing the majority of each army every time (good bye wave serpents, fire prisms, falcons, vypers, etc, etc, etc...) Heaven forbid I actually decide to get into a new army.

GW is pushing harder than ever, and eventually they're going to reach that breaking point for everyone with these prices. This release has done it for me.

Wait until the price increase. Isn't it due soon?

Usually beginning of June. They will probably try to sneak it past us. Of course the whole Dire Avenger situation is ridiculous and probably part of it. /sigh

Stuff released within a month or so of the price hike tend to have the price hike included. I wouldn't expect Eldar stuff to go up, but I'd expect the Wraithknight to set a new pricepoint for the price hike.

Wasn't the last price hike just after a release? I thought I remembered that release being subject to the hike too.

If the 5 model boxes for 20 quid becomes a standard i reckon we might see a lot of peoples resolve tested.,

I full expect most of the MC/Large models to go up to £50

 DiabolicAl wrote:
If the 5 model boxes for 20 quid becomes a standard i reckon we might see a lot of peoples resolve tested.,

I full expect most of the MC/Large models to go up to £50

I think we've already seen most people's resolve get tested. If they continue with this pricing trend, they will lose all of their customers. Not just the sane ones

Mime wrote:

 Ktulhut wrote:
I actually really like all the new stuff. Too bad for GW that they've priced me out of their market, I would have bought all of this a year ago. Same for (most of) the Tau release.

Snap.

The other pictures of the WK make it look alot beter than the first leak, but if the rumored price is correct that will be about $200, no way that will make the budget.

As much as I like the fliers, even with with the weapon pods, I can't see me stomaching the mark up, to acuataly buy one.

I will just need to hang on till all the impulse buyers start flicking them on ebay, patience is needed.

I can confirm that the NZ RRP for the Wraithknight is $150, the same price point as the Baneblade (I imagine this will be the same price point for all countries).

To those complaining about prices, the only thing that is out of the ordinary for this Eldar release specifically is the Dire Avengers repack. That is a total scam akin to the stupid pricing that is killing WHFB (i.e boxes that don't actually have enough models to make a meaningful unit) and because existing players already have enough Avengers so it hurts newer players more. Yes GW prices are crazy and I have no issue with people being annoyed about them in general but the Wraithknight is practically a superheavy walker in terms of size so its not really surprising that it is priced the same as the existing GW superheavy. Similarly all the 6th edition limited edition codicies have been twice the price of the normal codex, so that shouldn't be a surprise. Wraithguard/Wraithblades are actually very well priced at $60(NZ) considering its a full dual kit of 40mm base heavy infantry that appear to be taller than Terminators.

anyone have a link as to where some one leaked all of the psychic powers and not just a few?

OK, here we go... a buffed Wraith Knight:
Gundam MSN-06S Sinanju Ver Ka MG 1/100 Scale. Even has a shield.
22.6 meters tall in 1/100 scale makes the kit 8.9" tall.
$79.16 with free shipping

http://www.amazon.com/Gundam-MSN-06S-Sinanju-Ver-Scale/dp/B001GXSMSW/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1369198719&sr=8-12&keywords=gundam+mg


And just for fun a 40K scale plastic injection machine kit:
http://www.amazon.com/Gundam-Exclusive-Electromotive-Injection-Machine/dp/B003YM4EBM/ref=sr_1_22?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1369199233&sr=1-22&keywords=gundam+1%2F60

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And you can buy other weapon loadouts from 3rd parties for extra configuration without needing to pay through the nose.

M.

I've played Eldar since everything was in the BRB in 3rd and there were no actual codexes at the time...I must say that I am really excited to see what the new codex brings us.

First off, rumors strongly indicate Fortune, Guide and Doom are still options for Farseers (Fortune is probably one of the best powers in the game IMO) so that alleviates some of my anxiety regarding psychic powers.

Second, I like how they are finally expanding the role of Wraith units as 2nd ed had a lot of "Ghost Warriors" with different shooting options or close combat options and the new models look great.

Third, the Flyers, even if they look like geese, offer a lot of solid options from what the rumors say (though their survivability will be an issue to be seen).

Finally, the Wraithknight offers a solid amount of survivable/sustainable firepower that was lacking in the previous codex...Think of it as a 2 Executioner tanks in a Bastion =). Plus the model is a nice centerpiece.

Ultimately, having been a hard-core Iyanden style player since early 3rd, I couldn't be more thrilled with the way the release is turning up. I can, however, feel the pain of those that were hoping for new Jetbike/Vyper/Aspect Warriors =(. Maybe a second wave?

Wraithknight has been confirmed to be a Monstrous Creature for those that don't know, or who care. Have no idea the toughness, wounds or saves.

CleverAntics wrote:
Wraithknight has been confirmed to be a Monstrous Creature for those that don't know, or who care. Have no idea the toughness, wounds or saves.

S10, T10, 2+ and 4++, W10, Lol.

First one...wouldn't be surprised. Second one, if pattern is true, then perhaps; Guard are T6, Lord T8...why not make the mini-titan fellow T10? Gotta keep it consistent!

I just wanna fortune it so it never dies.

And no worries about it being one-shotted off the table because it's a Walker.

 mortetvie wrote:
I've played Eldar since everything was in the BRB in 3rd and there were no actual codexes at the time...I must say that I am really excited to see what the new codex brings us.

First off, rumors strongly indicate Fortune, Guide and Doom are still options for Farseers (Fortune is probably one of the best powers in the game IMO) so that alleviates some of my anxiety regarding psychic powers.

Second, I like how they are finally expanding the role of Wraith units as 2nd ed had a lot of "Ghost Warriors" with different shooting options or close combat options and the new models look great.

Third, the Flyers, even if they look like geese, offer a lot of solid options from what the rumors say (though their survivability will be an issue to be seen).

Finally, the Wraithknight offers a solid amount of survivable/sustainable firepower that was lacking in the previous codex...Think of it as a 2 Executioner tanks in a Bastion =). Plus the model is a nice centerpiece.

Ultimately, having been a hard-core Iyanden style player since early 3rd, I couldn't be more thrilled with the way the release is turning up. I can, however, feel the pain of those that were hoping for new Jetbike/Vyper/Aspect Warriors =(. Maybe a second wave?

I agree with you here. I play Mymeara and they're quite wraith heavy. So am quite happy with the release. And if the Iyanden supplement goes well; potentially aspect 2nd wave with a Biel-Tan supplement, or a bike with Saim Hann supplement.

As for the rumoured stats on the Wraithknight *drool* but I doubt it's quite that brutal. T10 is just... thats tougher than a Bio-Titan!!!!!

 wuestenfux wrote:

CleverAntics wrote:
Wraithknight has been confirmed to be a Monstrous Creature for those that don't know, or who care. Have no idea the toughness, wounds or saves.

S10, T10, 2+ and 4++, W10, Lol.

Special rules: FNP, will not die, fear, hatred: everyone, wrath of khaine, wrath of the titans, wrath of the gods, deamon, eternal warrior.

 wuestenfux wrote:

CleverAntics wrote:
Wraithknight has been confirmed to be a Monstrous Creature for those that don't know, or who care. Have no idea the toughness, wounds or saves.

S10, T10, 2+ and 4++, W10, Lol.

is that a serious confirmed rumor?

CleverAntics wrote:
First one...wouldn't be surprised. Second one, if pattern is true, then perhaps; Guard are T6, Lord T8...why not make the mini-titan fellow T10? Gotta keep it consistent!

I just wanna fortune it so it never dies.

And no worries about it being one-shotted off the table because it's a Walker.

It's probably for the same reason med-base Hive/Tyrant Guard are T6, large-base Hive Tyrants are T6, and oval-base Trygons/Tervigons/Tyrannowhammozammofexes are T6. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean tougher.

No. Though I have good reason to suspect that S10 isn't unreasonably; beyond that, not sure. Supposedly someone on Horus Heresy-Online said it had T8 as Wraithlord I think. If so, I'd imagine it'd have 5-6 wounds. Not sure about an armor save. Still, it'd have to be impressive for 250 pt starting base.

Oh, I know. I was just joking there, because T10 isn't plausible. Only one model can get that, and that is only a possibility at best; which is the GuO with Biomancy.

 mortetvie wrote:
I can, however, feel the pain of those that were hoping for new Jetbike/Vyper/Aspect Warriors =(. Maybe a second wave?

The jetbikes and vypers... was definitely looking forward to seeing those. Now, I'm thinking about my options for those (since I've been wanting to do a refresh of those in my army, depending on how they are in the new book). Vypers are an easy conversion from the Venom; Jetbikes are a fairly trivial conversion from the Dark Eldar as well, except for the canopies. I'd have to see if I've got one l can cast up, or if I feel up to just sculpting one from scratch and casting that.

Then I have to decide if I'm willing to spend the money required to actually DO that... I'd probably still feel like I was rewarding GW for their poor long-term decision making.

GTKA666 wrote:
anyone have a link as to where some one leaked all of the psychic powers and not just a few?

Uh where was this?

GTKA666 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

CleverAntics wrote:
Wraithknight has been confirmed to be a Monstrous Creature for those that don't know, or who care. Have no idea the toughness, wounds or saves.

S10, T10, 2+ and 4++, W10, Lol.

is that a serious confirmed rumor?

No, its speculative.

 unmercifulconker wrote:


Special rules: FNP, will not die, fear, hatred: everyone, wrath of khaine, wrath of the titans, wrath of the gods, deamon, eternal warrior.

Wrath of Khan would be better...

Hmm, the flyer, wraithblades and metalhead farseer (aka "Spiritseer", but "heavy metal farseer" is just so awesome I can't ignore this nickname) alone look so cool I might be considering eldar over dark eldar. Let's see how this book turns out though (and if the DE get their own too at some time during 6th, though probably not until next year).