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I think we're going to see Wraithguard be T6, Wraithlords be T7 and Wraithknights be T8.

Iranna.

I would only accept a drop in toughness for the Wraithlord (as in continue to run it) if it came along with FnP standard.

What're they doing, canabalizing WL's materials to make the Knights?

The recession has hit everyone magiks, even the eldar now it seems :-(

 Absolutionis wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Those are from the WD.

The first image certainly is not. It has statlines and everything; it looks like an uncut printing of the codex.

Second one, yeah, it's WD. Wanted to stay safe considering it has game rules on it.

They are both definitely from the White Dwarf, its where I got the info from a posted earlier in this thread. Its hard to tell when you are looking at a low quality image which is impossible to read anyway, but those rule pages are really really small previews of the codex in the White Dwarf.

Pretty sure Wraithguard don't have 2+ saves, there was another preview page with their stat lines so I know that they are still S5 T6 A1 (as are Wraithblades) but I'm not 100% certain they still have 3+ saves.

Based purely on probability Wraithlords are still roughly as survivable as before. In the WD report one got shot by a unit of Necron Destroyers (S6 guns) and didn't lose a wound, which to me suggests either it is T7+ (so they didn't cause many/any wounds) or it now has a 2+ and bounced all their shots. If it was just T6 with a 3+ save you would have to roll very well not to lose at least 1 wound.

 Jackal wrote:
The recession has hit everyone magiks, even the eldar now it seems :-(

Yeah... screw that lol.

So Wraithknights are the same size as a Revenant titan and a third the dollar cost. Should put an end to that whining.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
So Wraithknights are the same size as a Revenant titan and a third the dollar cost. Should put an end to that whining.

I was trying to find size comparisons for that point actually. Pricing it against some of FW's heavy IG Tanks it also comes across as reasonable in price comparison and the model is in my opinion equally appealing.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
So Wraithknights are the same size as a Revenant titan and a third the dollar cost. Should put an end to that whining.

Revenants are 12-13" tall, compared to 9" for the Knight. It's not quite on the same scale, but it would still make a decent proxy for people on a budget.

Anyone have speculation on what units from the new eldar codex might end up being good complements to Tau? I'm guessing farseers, jet bikes.... And swooping hawkes or striking scorpions.

Wraithknights and riptides in the same army?
Seems interesting enough to me.

deathmagiks wrote:
I would only accept a drop in toughness for the Wraithlord (as in continue to run it) if it came along with FnP standard.

What're they doing, canabalizing WL's materials to make the Knights?

They don't need FNP. T7 is fine. As for "accepting it", what other choice do you have? Stop playing?

Hence the "(as in continue to run it)" portion, i.e. continue to run Wraithlords.

Nocturnus wrote:

They don't need FNP. T7 is fine. As for "accepting it", what other choice do you have? Stop playing?

"T7 is fine?" lol, not with the current wraithlord loadouts.

Stop playing, may of us already have

lol, someone gets it =P

Anybody see this on the GW site yet. Sorry if i'm late to the party and this is old news already but it came out just today.

 Absolutionis wrote:
Unfortunately, the new "windrider" squad is just the old jetbikes repackaged.





Also, found some pictures from what seems like the Codex itself on 4chan. I don't think I'm allowed to post it here.

The Wraithknight's head looks MUCH better like that, to me. The original pics make it look too much like it's a giant guy, and he's got a face behind that recessed face area of the head. The Ulthwe painted version's head just looks so much more like what I want to see.

WK looks like he's about to fall over.

The head does look better when painted a full solid color rather than the 'deal with it' glasses, but in that picture, it looks really tipsy in both meanings of the word.

The video's from a few days ago, it was posted a few pages back.

Anyone else think it's weird that those are the old Fire Dragons in that picture, btw?

EDIT: Nevermind, doubledouble post bug fixed.

 BlueDagger wrote:

Nocturnus wrote:

They don't need FNP. T7 is fine. As for "accepting it", what other choice do you have? Stop playing?

"T7 is fine?" lol, not with the current wraithlord loadouts.

Stop playing, may of us already have

T7 T8? Doesn't really matter to me. My Dark Eldar wound on a 4+. As for current "load outs", what are you on about? Regardless, they will probably get knocked down to T7 so they can get all the WAAC players to buy the Wraithknight. Good day.

At least the jet bikes appear to have updated riders. instead of the ancient rebreather pilots.

 Eldar Craft wrote:
At least the jet bikes appear to have updated riders. instead of the ancient rebreather pilots.

Those Ulthwe models are staff painted, so guessing its not a studio set... in other words, they've converted them - it won't be the standard in the re-packaged 3 pack.

and the fire dragons are oop ones i think.

 Kanluwen wrote:
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Illic's gun "harnesses the power of a long-dead Eldar hero to tear open warp-holes in the enemy."

It's just like a long-dead Eldar hero do that.

Leave my open warp-holes, alone, Illic! Stop tearing them!

Yeah you're probably right. Mine are converted already I was just hoping to avoid using my bits to convert up more. Yeah the fire dragons look like they're even a generation behind the current ones.

Woah the new wraithguard seem to be a fair bit bigger than the old ones

Nocturnus wrote:

 BlueDagger wrote:

Nocturnus wrote:

They don't need FNP. T7 is fine. As for "accepting it", what other choice do you have? Stop playing?

"T7 is fine?" lol, not with the current wraithlord loadouts.

Stop playing, may of us already have

T7 T8? Doesn't really matter to me. My Dark Eldar wound on a 4+. As for current "load outs", what are you on about? Regardless, they will probably get knocked down to T7 so they can get all the WAAC players to buy the Wraithknight. Good day.

Our splinter weaponry wounds on a 4+, but for things like Darklight Weaponry to drop a save, or non-poisoned CC attacks, it makes a difference. Str3 can't hurt T7/8. Str8 wounds on a 3+/4+. Poison's great, but with a 3+ save you need what... 6 shots to cause a wound, on a 2+ 12 shots. with 3 wounds that's 18/36 shots to drop it (24/48 at 4w for a wraithseer). It's still a good whack of fire per model that's needed.

 Eldar Craft wrote:
At least the jet bikes appear to have updated riders. instead of the ancient rebreather pilots.

Check the "Windrider" picture. It's still the rebreather-KKK-leathercoat guys.

 Absolutionis wrote:

 Eldar Craft wrote:
At least the jet bikes appear to have updated riders. instead of the ancient rebreather pilots.

Check the "Windrider" picture. It's still the rebreather-KKK-leathercoat guys.

I'll have to check it out. I didn't see it on the front page but i haven't checked in a while. Man that sucks. Was hoping to see them get some love.