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FarSeer-Elandrieth wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Speaking of the wraith knight (this has probably been pointed out already), but it really looks like he is wearing sandals.
And once you seen the sandals, his legs start looking like bellbottom jeans in a way. You just have to paint it right and you get a giant angry hippie!

This also caught my eye. If/when I get a WKnight I'll certainly be filing the "soles" off his sandals so that the "cloven hooves" make contact with the ground!

That aside... a lovely model.

You know that is the same for all the wraith units, right?

 unmercifulconker wrote:

 Ovion wrote:

warpspider89 wrote:

Griever wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
So what is everyone going to deck their knights with? Most of my armies are CC so I always lack some heavy stuff so I am thinking the lances just to smash some pathetic cowardly vehicles preventing close combat in the face with a beam of ownage.

I'm not going to field one because it's a stupid, stupid model and I don't want to encourage GW to stick to their current "lets shoehorn a huge model into every army" shtick.

Seriously, the concept is awful. It's just a blown up Wraithlord.

You do realize that not every new army has a giant model right? Neither Dark Angels nor Chaos Space Marines got one. They just got fliers like everyone else.

CSM have the Defiler, Forgefiends, the Heldrake, and while technically Forgeworld, the Decimator.
Dark Angels got that giant speeder thing, as well as the flyers, and a skittles bag worth of flavours of terminator.

Plus, on the 'blown up wraithlord' thing, it's more a scaled down Revenant / Phantom Titan aesthetically, and functionally.

Space Marines have the contemptor dreads, stormravens, orks had the stompa, dark eldar had the talon GW have been doing big models for a while.

Fliers don't count for this discussion since all fliers are larger and everyone got one. The WK is a large non-flier and not everyone has one of those.

Wish Jes Goodwin would just release his concept sketches in an art book. If he's concerned about other people ripping them off, why not release the ones for already existing releases like the Aspect Warriors?

Iracundus wrote:
Wish Jes Goodwin would just release his concept sketches in an art book. If he's concerned about other people ripping them off, why not release the ones for already existing releases like the Aspect Warriors?

They did just that back in 2001, with The Gothic and the Eldritch: The Collected Sketches of Jes Goodwin. Nice book, covers a LOT of GW territory.

shade1313 wrote:

Iracundus wrote:
Wish Jes Goodwin would just release his concept sketches in an art book. If he's concerned about other people ripping them off, why not release the ones for already existing releases like the Aspect Warriors?

They did just that back in 2001, with The Gothic and the Eldritch: The Collected Sketches of Jes Goodwin. Nice book, covers a LOT of GW territory.

I know and have that. But since then there have been a lot more sketches. The last Eldar Codex saw a bunch of Dire Avenger, Banshee, and Scorpion sketches shown. We also have colored in versions of them in the BRB such as the Fire Dragon.

Iracundus wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

Iracundus wrote:
Wish Jes Goodwin would just release his concept sketches in an art book. If he's concerned about other people ripping them off, why not release the ones for already existing releases like the Aspect Warriors?

They did just that back in 2001, with The Gothic and the Eldritch: The Collected Sketches of Jes Goodwin. Nice book, covers a LOT of GW territory.

I know and have that. But since then there have been a lot more sketches. The last Eldar Codex saw a bunch of Dire Avenger, Banshee, and Scorpion sketches shown. We also have colored in versions of them in the BRB such as the Fire Dragon.

I'd love to see some of the newer stuff too. I get the feeling that the man has enough sketches to fill thousands of pages, though, so I'd feel bad for the guy who has to decide what would go into a volume 2 and what would get left out. Those would be some hard decisions.

That being said, I'd gladly volunteer to take the job, if it meant I could comb through his sketchbooks.

shade1313 wrote:

Iracundus wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

Iracundus wrote:
Wish Jes Goodwin would just release his concept sketches in an art book. If he's concerned about other people ripping them off, why not release the ones for already existing releases like the Aspect Warriors?

They did just that back in 2001, with The Gothic and the Eldritch: The Collected Sketches of Jes Goodwin. Nice book, covers a LOT of GW territory.

I know and have that. But since then there have been a lot more sketches. The last Eldar Codex saw a bunch of Dire Avenger, Banshee, and Scorpion sketches shown. We also have colored in versions of them in the BRB such as the Fire Dragon.

I'd love to see some of the newer stuff too. I get the feeling that the man has enough sketches to fill thousands of pages, though, so I'd feel bad for the guy who has to decide what would go into a volume 2 and what would get left out. Those would be some hard decisions.

That being said, I'd gladly volunteer to take the job, if it meant I could comb through his sketchbooks.

There were online sketches with the release of the Dark Eldar Codex. I find the notes as interesting as the actual sketch since it shows some of the thought process at the time, such as the thematic decision to stick to straight edged blades for the Dire Avenger Exarch and keep curved blades for the Banshees.

Iracundus wrote:


There were online sketches with the release of the Dark Eldar Codex. I find the notes as interesting as the actual sketch since it shows some of the thought process at the time, such as the thematic decision to stick to straight edged blades for the Dire Avenger Exarch and keep curved blades for the Banshees.

I find that the notes on the page for Wraithguard, in The Gothic and the Eldritch, are quite interesting in light of what we know about the new kit.

 BrassScorpion wrote:
Poll:
Crimson Hunter or Wraithfighter? Or both?
Wraithblades: Axe and shield or swords? Or one unit of each?
Wraithknight: All guns or sword version? Or one of each?

One of each for the Knight and Blades. Haven't looked over the flyer yet. I'll stick with my metal Wraithguard, though.

I can only agree about the scenic bases. They look good on the model, not on the field.

 Azazelx wrote:

 BrassScorpion wrote:
Poll:
Crimson Hunter or Wraithfighter? Or both?
Wraithblades: Axe and shield or swords? Or one unit of each?
Wraithknight: All guns or sword version? Or one of each?

One of each for the Knight and Blades. Haven't looked over the flyer yet. I'll stick with my metal Wraithguard, though.

1 of each + an extra of 1 (depending on rules)
1+ unit of each (blades)
1+ unit of scythes/cannons each (guard)
1 of each - sword, lances, suncannon for the knight

Done my pre-order.
Codex
Psychic Cards
Spiritseer
Wraithknight x 2 - Depends on how good the shield is before I decided what I will equip them with.

Later I plan to get 10 Wraithblades (Looking at the axes - If I can have Fuegan lead them, that'll look awesome.)
1 of each plane. If they are good - my FA being almost full and my HS being the most overcrowded slot in history.

PredaKhaine wrote:
Done my pre-order.
Codex
Psychic Cards
Spiritseer
Wraithknight x 2 - Depends on how good the shield is before I decided what I will equip them with.

Later I plan to get 10 Wraithblades (Looking at the axes - If I can have Fuegan lead them, that'll look awesome.)
1 of each plane. If they are good - my FA being almost full and my HS being the most overcrowded slot in history.

Why are the psychic cards necessary?

So I can keep track of what I get easier in a game.

I'm quite liable to forget warlord traits or gifts of mutation with my chaos - anything that means I can remember what psychic powers I roll in a game can only be good

They're not necessary, as the powers will also be listed in the codex. They are just handy quick references; especially when you start mixing up different Psychic Disciplines, I find it useful to have all the cards together instead of having to look them up in different books.

 Redemption wrote:
They're not necessary, as the powers will also be listed in the codex. They are just handy quick references; especially when you start mixing up different Psychic Disciplines, I find it useful to have all the cards together instead of having to look them up in different books.

Oh ok. I doubt my tiny budget cold handle even such a cheap luxury.

Well you could always create your own by photocopying your codex/rulebook. These just have some extra artwork and if you have the original psychic cards, a convenient container.

GTKA666 wrote:

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
I wish they made the bomber more of a strike bomber, they already failed with one synergy inducing bomber in the DA Codex. I don't have high hopes for this bomber to be more versatile than a pulse laser and two lances..

Unless they properly cost these synergy units better, they won't get much use.

If your looking for versatile, then your looking at the wrong codex. Every units really only does one thing exceptionally well. Though 2 BL and pulse laser= anti tank and anti flyer. Which means it is pretty versatile...If you want anti horde there are PLENTY of other units that will do it for you and can be on the field turn one.

Meh, stupid me. I didn't mean I wanted the bomber to be more versatile, meant I wanted it to be a better ground attack craft than the fighter without relying on the rest of the army to do the killing after it provides modifiers via bombs.

The fighter already seems like it will be amazingly versatile with Brightlances, as they are not point savy against other flyers but amazing in a ground strike role.


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From the current convo. With how prevalent it appears psykers will be on the tabletop for Eldar, I imagine one set of psykee cards woildnt be enough anyway. So I will probably have to photocopy the cards anyhow.

Well looking at the history of bombers from 6th ed. we will be disapointed. I too would like to see the bomber kick some tail, but it being FA doesn't really make me feel confident.

Double post :(

EDIT: there was two posts so I deleted 1 and now the others gone. I'm not retyping it though, It wasn't a great post.

But I call bulldust on White Dwarfs method for painting Iyanden.

 Wise Guy Sam wrote:

But I call bulldust on White Dwarfs method for painting Iyanden.

Sadly I haven't got that shade to try but I cannot believe they have done that with just a shade and some white highlighting.

I can confirm that it does work, but you can get better effects by spraying white as a primer, then spraying a bright yellow over this.

Use Sepia wash to really bring the yellow out nice and crisp.

 Wise Guy Sam wrote:
Double post :(

EDIT: there was two posts so I deleted 1 and now the others gone. I'm not retyping it though, It wasn't a great post.

But I call bulldust on White Dwarfs method for painting Iyanden.

I have yet to find a GW painting guide where the results come out even similar. It's always been that way. I remember the first Space Marine painting guide from like 20 years ago. It said to basecoat Blood Angels with Terracotta ....

Limited Codex is selling like hell: Less than 600 books left (sigh)

It is definitely just an extra £30 for a dust jacket isn't it?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Limited Codex is selling like hell: Less than 600 books left (sigh)

The Limited Edition Supplement Iyanden is the real test!

 Kroothawk wrote:
Limited Codex is selling like hell: Less than 600 books left (sigh)

Yeah, though not an insignificant share of what they've sold are likely the eBay Sellers immediately turning them around.

PredaKhaine wrote:
It is definitely just an extra £30 for a dust jacket isn't it?

And a bookmark!

PredaKhaine wrote:
It is definitely just an extra £30 for a dust jacket isn't it?

You can whine all you want about the price, but the fact is they sell.

GW would be bad at business if they didn't make these.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

You can whine all you want about the price, but the fact is they sell.

GW would be bad at business if they didn't make these.

Yeah, complaining about limited edition prices is silly. That is one product you will absolutely never need to buy, so what it costs is utterly meaningless. If they can generate profits this way, that's great; there's less pressure for them to raise the price of the stuff I actually want to buy.