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Could you please confirm and expand on the Disarm exarch power from last page (if possible)? As it stands that thing is pants on head slowed and makes no sense for things like Tyranids, where the weapon is part of them.

Maybe automatic warlock?

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Disarm is Banshees or DA, and Assassin is Scorpions.


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-Shrike- wrote:
Could you please confirm and expand on the Disarm exarch power from last page (if possible)? As it stands that thing is pants on head slowed and makes no sense for things like Tyranids, where the weapon is part of them.

Possible scenario with 'nids: Exarch manages to trap the 'nid's arms/special weapon bearing extremities, perhaps pinning them to the ground, or against a nearby rock, reducing the options available to the struggling 'nid.

Any chance Dire Avengers are finally getting grenades?

 Malthor wrote:

Eldar BS is now 4 across the board

If this is true, I just had a joygasm.

You sure that's not just vehicles, with Guardians still stuck at BS 3?

- improve armor save of a friendly unit by 1, decrease the save of an enemy unit by 1

He can give it to psykers, but he cannot give us back our proper Khorne Chainaxes!? Damnit Kelly.

Thank you very much Malthor for all the info you're giving us. Any tidbits on the Avatar?

Warlock mechanics - Are they a council-unit, as they are now, or are they "take - X and you can distribute them as you see fit"?

Wait so guardians have gone up in price by 1 as have Dire avengers? (I guess it makes sense for new shuriken rules) And they've made all the wraith stuff ridiculously powerful.... No one is going to want to charge a wall of death D scythe wielding wraithguard squad. I picked Biel-tan because I like the whole aspect warrior side of things, it seems now the Eldar race has gotten so desperate they are fielding wraiths en masse, before it was only done in the most dire of circumstance. I wouldn't be surprised to see an army consisting of only spiritseers, wraithguard, wraithlords and wraithknights with some fliers thrown in becoming the norm with the way this is unfolding. I do like the info we've gotten on Exarchs so far though, here's hoping there is more than that, I want to field my Host of the young prince army again.

KaiyaA wrote:
Thank you very much Malthor for all the info you're giving us. Any tidbits on the Avatar?

There's a tiny bit in the post two pages back by the guy who said he had the codex: The avatar can take Exarch powers.

shade1313 wrote:

 Malthor wrote:

Eldar BS is now 4 across the board

If this is true, I just had a joygasm.

You sure that's not just vehicles, with Guardians still stuck at BS 3?

Well, I was told this by a very excited Eldar player who looked at the book before me, so I did not look at it any more personally, but I believe it very firmly from his reaction

Malthor's comment was removed. Looks like GW doesn't want us looking at it!

Wait screw that just me doing a derp and not finding his comment when I went back to read it for the 10th time

 Autarch Fiallathandirel wrote:
Wait so guardians have gone up in price by 1 as have Dire avengers? (I guess it makes sense for new shuriken rules) And they've made all the wraith stuff ridiculously powerful.... No one is going to want to charge a wall of death D scythe wielding wraithguard squad. I picked Biel-tan because I like the whole aspect warrior side of things, it seems now the Eldar race has gotten so desperate they are fielding wraiths en masse, before it was only done in the most dire of circumstance. I wouldn't be surprised to see an army consisting of only spiritseers, wraithguard, wraithlords and wraithknights with some fliers thrown in becoming the norm with the way this is unfolding. I do like the info we've gotten on Exarchs so far though, here's hoping there is more than that, I want to field my Host of the young prince army again.

The guardian cost may include the cost of a platform. Could easily be 60+X for something (or 70+X, or 80+X)

 puma713 wrote:

KaiyaA wrote:
Thank you very much Malthor for all the info you're giving us. Any tidbits on the Avatar?

There's a tiny bit in the post two pages back by the guy who said he had the codex: The avatar can take Exarch powers.

Thanks. That's awesome!

 Malthor wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

 Malthor wrote:

Eldar BS is now 4 across the board

If this is true, I just had a joygasm.

You sure that's not just vehicles, with Guardians still stuck at BS 3?

Well, I was told this by a very excited Eldar player who looked at the book before me, so I did not look at it any more personally, but I believe it very firmly from his reaction

Oh, please Eldrad, make it be true!

It certainly WOULD explain the point cost for that unit of Guardians a bit better...

Can you tell us what the toughness of the Wraithlord is?

Still T8?

Gwyidion wrote:

 Autarch Fiallathandirel wrote:
Wait so guardians have gone up in price by 1 as have Dire avengers? (I guess it makes sense for new shuriken rules) And they've made all the wraith stuff ridiculously powerful.... No one is going to want to charge a wall of death D scythe wielding wraithguard squad. I picked Biel-tan because I like the whole aspect warrior side of things, it seems now the Eldar race has gotten so desperate they are fielding wraiths en masse, before it was only done in the most dire of circumstance. I wouldn't be surprised to see an army consisting of only spiritseers, wraithguard, wraithlords and wraithknights with some fliers thrown in becoming the norm with the way this is unfolding. I do like the info we've gotten on Exarchs so far though, here's hoping there is more than that, I want to field my Host of the young prince army again.

The guardian cost may include the cost of a platform. Could easily be 60+X for something (or 70+X, or 80+X)

I guess if the +BS is true then the increase in price is fair, they are 16% more accurate with their shots (even if they will rarely be in range to shoot with the majority of their guns.....)

Disarm Bjorn the Fell-Handed. Isn't he a character? Feel free to ignore me if I'm wrong.
Or a daemon prince.
Or the swarmlord.
Or just say feth it, and play a game against a pre-heresy army, and watch the rage. You have just under a 50% chance to strip ANGRON of BOTH his chainaxes, because they only have 1 profile.
/rant
... I really hope I'm raging for nothing, and this ability is appropriately costed. If it costs less than 15pts, I can see it becoming the new MSS.


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Actually, I'm not too familiar with the Eldar codex, so I should probably ask right away, how many units can take Exarch abilities?

-Shrike- wrote:
Disarm Bjorn the Fell-Handed. Isn't he a character? Feel free to ignore me if I'm wrong.
Or a daemon prince.
Or the swarmlord.
Or just say feth it, and play a game against a pre-heresy army, and watch the rage. You have just under a 50% chance to strip ANGRON of BOTH his chainaxes, because they only have 1 profile.
/rant
... I really hope I'm raging for nothing, and this ability is appropriately costed. If it costs less than 15pts, I can see it becoming the new MSS.


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Actually, I'm not too familiar with the Eldar codex, so I should probably ask right away, how many units can take Exarch abilities?

If you 'disarmed' a Daemon Prince (Daemon Codex), what would that achieve? I'm assuming that any hits would still be AP2 courtesy of Smash?

BTW, thanks for all the info, Malthor!

-Shrike- wrote:
BTW, thanks for all the info, Malthor!

Have to echo this. Many thanks.


OH!!! Swooping Hawks! Remember anything on them?

 undertow wrote:

-Shrike- wrote:
Disarm Bjorn the Fell-Handed. Isn't he a character? Feel free to ignore me if I'm wrong.
Or a daemon prince.
Or the swarmlord.
Or just say feth it, and play a game against a pre-heresy army, and watch the rage. You have just under a 50% chance to strip ANGRON of BOTH his chainaxes, because they only have 1 profile.
/rant
... I really hope I'm raging for nothing, and this ability is appropriately costed. If it costs less than 15pts, I can see it becoming the new MSS.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Actually, I'm not too familiar with the Eldar codex, so I should probably ask right away, how many units can take Exarch abilities?

If you 'disarmed' a Daemon Prince (Daemon Codex), what would that achieve? I'm assuming that any hits would still be AP2 courtesy of Smash?

If the DP has a Black Mace, you can disarm him and save yourself from losing a lot of models.

undertow wrote:If you 'disarmed' a Daemon Prince (Daemon Codex), what would that achieve? I'm assuming that any hits would still be AP2 courtesy of Smash?

As per the CSM codex, you could take away The Black Mace (obligatory capital letters), which would drastically reduce his planned effectiveness, as it can kill the unit whilst he's in a challenge.

So, we've got another two special rules which are almost (but not quite) the same as rending? Why do they even bother writing USRs if they insist on coming up with new versions which do almost the same thing in every book?

Are there any special rules for be allies with DE? Having them/ or having eldar as an allied attachment ?

Also, according to the rumore (no offense, but if you don't have a codex in front of you, they're still rumors. An ability can be lost in a game of Telephone from the codex to the forum), Disarm is not automatic. You still have to roll against your opponent. It's not like an auto-win or anything in combat.

 undertow wrote:

If you 'disarmed' a Daemon Prince (Daemon Codex), what would that achieve? I'm assuming that any hits would still be AP2 courtesy of Smash?

Seems fitting to me. Some nerdy little Eldar exarch skillfully disarms a giant creature, and then gets smashed.

Rules sound fun so far. BS 4 Guardians? Hmm, maybe they are worth it afterall.

More info needed on the Wraithknight:

Basic cost, statline, and what does his Wraithcannons do?

Is there any word if Exarch powers are bought, or randomly rolled like psychic powers?

Are Dire Avengers 3+ or 4+ Sv? Are there Avenger Catapults still 18"?

What are the stats of the different heavy weapons: Bright Lance, Pulse Laser, Scatter Laser, Starcannon, Shuriken Cannon?