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 xttz wrote:
Is there any word if Exarch powers are bought, or randomly rolled like psychic powers?

According to screenshots of codex previews, they are bought.

Banshees reduce initiative by 5? And still AP3? Really?!

These rumours are jizztacular.

Iranna.

I won't comment any more on Disarm until I see points costs and which units have it.

Until then, Wraithknight! Tell us everything you know about it!

Just checked the clock and saw I should have gone to bed one and a half hours ago since I have to get up early tomorrow

I hope my infos helped some of you and thanks for the kind words everybody

Good night!

Do the new psychic powers work on friendly units or just friendly Eldar units?

Wondering because of allying with DE..

Sleep? What's that?

 Malthor wrote:
Just checked the clock and saw I should have gone to bed one and a half hours ago since I have to get up early tomorrow

I hope my infos helped some of you and thanks for the kind words everybody

Good night!

Thanks again for all your info.

Perfect Organism wrote:
So, we've got another two special rules which are almost (but not quite) the same as rending? Why do they even bother writing USRs if they insist on coming up with new versions which do almost the same thing in every book?

Because otherwise it'd work on vehicles as well, this only works on units.

ROW are gone, give a once per game 2+ DtW

If true, I'm so happy about this.

If we get mastery level 4 and 5 seers, I won't need ROW as much anymore! I can deny the witch with some chance of success!

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Perfect Organism wrote:
So, we've got another two special rules which are almost (but not quite) the same as rending? Why do they even bother writing USRs if they insist on coming up with new versions which do almost the same thing in every book?

Because otherwise it'd work on vehicles as well, this only works on units.

Also, it doesn't look like it's an auto-wound on a six. Rending hits cause wounds on a 6 regardless of toughness. So shuriken weapons fired at S:8 are still useless.

Looking through some of the other rumored stuff that hasn't been discussed by Malthor...

Holo Fields: More or less what I expected them to do.
Not too sure about the Warlord abilities, at this point
Shield of Grace: Kind of "meh" about this one at this point, want more details
I REALLY want to know what Exarch powers the Avatar can get, there's some interesting ideas there.
Old Nemesis has some interesting pluses AND minuses to it.
CTM is somewhat pricey for a one use item.
The Serpent Shield somewhat looks better for its offensive uses rather than its defensive purposes.
I REALLY want to get the full wording for the Star Engines. A 24" cruising speed has some interesting implications, and I hope that's not misworded like the CTM was in that rumor batch.
The Vectored Engines also have some interesting implications for troop transports to drop troops off, shoot, then spin their weak aft armor away from the enemy.

 Kohala wrote:
Are Dire Avengers 3+ or 4+ Sv? Are there Avenger Catapults still 18"?

What are the stats of the different heavy weapons: Bright Lance, Pulse Laser, Scatter Laser, Starcannon, Shuriken Cannon?

Considering Fire Dragons and Wraith Spiders are confirmed to have "Heavy Aspect Armor" in their army listing with a 3+ save, some Aspects will have to have non-Heavy Aspect Armor. Dire Avengers are probably it.

shade1313 wrote:
The Vectored Engines also have some interesting implications for troop transports to drop troops off, shoot, then spin their weak aft armor away from the enemy.

Wording matters, but I don't think this works if you moved the transport and then disembarked. At that point you're only removing one of two rules that say you can't pivot.

Quark wrote:

shade1313 wrote:
The Vectored Engines also have some interesting implications for troop transports to drop troops off, shoot, then spin their weak aft armor away from the enemy.

Wording matters, but I don't think this works if you moved the transport and then disembarked. At that point you're only removing one of two rules that say you can't pivot.

A lot of what was posted in that rumor dump from BOLS is iffy in interpretation until we get the verbatim rule. Particularly since it seems to have been translated from a non-English language copy.

 Absolutionis wrote:

 Kohala wrote:
Are Dire Avengers 3+ or 4+ Sv? Are there Avenger Catapults still 18"?

What are the stats of the different heavy weapons: Bright Lance, Pulse Laser, Scatter Laser, Starcannon, Shuriken Cannon?

Considering Fire Dragons and Wraith Spiders are confirmed to have "Heavy Aspect Armor" in their army listing with a 3+ save, some Aspects will have to have non-Heavy Aspect Armor. Dire Avengers are probably it.

Yup there is no way Dire avengers are getting a 3+ save, they would have gone up by more than 1 point if that was the case. Of the aspects I'd say Banshees, Swooping hawks and Dire avengers are 4+. Striking scorpions, fire dragons, warp spiders and dark reapers are 3+.

Also I guess shield of grace may allow your exarch to try and shield your unit in a melee combat by challenging the most powerful enemy model and denying him easy kills, after all 3++ is a storm shield save. It's basically a shimmershield putting all it's defense into a single model of the unit instead of a 5++ for all.

Thanks Malthor, great stuff there!

 Autarch Fiallathandirel wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:

 Kohala wrote:
Are Dire Avengers 3+ or 4+ Sv? Are there Avenger Catapults still 18"?

What are the stats of the different heavy weapons: Bright Lance, Pulse Laser, Scatter Laser, Starcannon, Shuriken Cannon?

Considering Fire Dragons and Wraith Spiders are confirmed to have "Heavy Aspect Armor" in their army listing with a 3+ save, some Aspects will have to have non-Heavy Aspect Armor. Dire Avengers are probably it.

Yup there is no way Dire avengers are getting a 3+ save, they would have gone up by more than 1 point if that was the case. Of the aspects I'd say Banshees, Swooping hawks and Dire avengers are 4+. Striking scorpions, fire dragons, warp spiders and dark reapers are 3+.

Also I guess shield of grace may allow your exarch to try and shield your unit in a melee combat by challenging the most powerful enemy model and denying him easy kills, after all 3++ is a storm shield save. It's basically a shimmershield putting all it's defense into a single model of the unit instead of a 5++ for all.

Malthor has stated the Dire Avengers as 4+ (exarch 3+), FWIW.

 pizzaguardian wrote:
with ahriman being 4 and the abilty to get mastery 3 sorcerers quite easily and cheaply on the csm book, i was expecting for the eldar farseers to be 1 higher(so eldrad 5 and such)

The maximum for Chaos Sorcerors, and non-Tzeentch Greater Daemons, is three. Four seems to be reserved for the truly most powerful individuals in town. So, I would say Eldrad is Four as well, but Farseers probably limited to Level 3.

 Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
with ahriman being 4 and the abilty to get mastery 3 sorcerers quite easily and cheaply on the csm book, i was expecting for the eldar farseers to be 1 higher(so eldrad 5 and such)

The maximum for Chaos Sorcerors, and non-Tzeentch Greater Daemons, is three. Four seems to be reserved for the truly most powerful individuals in town. So, I would say Eldrad is Four as well, but Farseers probably limited to Level 3.

Lords of Change are limited to level 3 as well, only Fateweaver is a level 4.

while I'm sure many competitive Eldar players are thrilled, making everything BS4 kinda rubs me the wrong way. Not because I think it'll be "zomgwtfbroken", but it really does reinforce the skewing of the statline, that anything with a "3" is "below average" instead of being...actually average, where 4 is the expected instead of the exceptional, and in a D6 system that's a rather big thing, and takes away from the specialness that being an Aspect Warrior, die hard veteran, or Space Marine is intended to portray.

Woah...

If Guardians are BS4 at 9 ppm, what is the point in taking Avengers?

Seriously, I don't see why you would.

The amount of shots you get from an equally pointed Guardian unit vs Avenger unit is staggering.

4+ save? Who cares, I got thirty guys with a conceal warlock.
18" range? Having 60 shots after running plus better overwatch far exceeds the Avengers dmg output.

Hi all,

I had a sneak preview at the codex and thought I'd drop some choice things in:

Distort weapons: instant death on 6's to wound and auto pen on 6's.
Wraithcannon: 12" S10, AP1
D-cannon: 24" S10, AP1, blase, barrage
Wraithknight Cannon: 36" S10 AP1
D-Scythe: Flamer, S4 AP5
Heavy D-Scythe: 18" S4, AP5, blast

Shuriken weapons: Bladestorm; wounds of 6's count as AP2. All other things stay same (strength, AP and sadly the range).

Fire Prism:
Has a new fire mode - lance: 60" S9 AP1 Lance, Heavy 1

Illic Nightspear (the ranger dude)
BS9 - all shots that hit are precision shots. Allows rangers to go from 12 points each to pathfinders for 25 points each. Pathfinders gain the all shots are precision shots rule.
Illic's sniper rifle is also AP2 with the Distort rule (pens on 6's, ID's on 6's).

Warlocks:
Warlocks are now psyker Mastery 1 and role on the psyker table. They are taken like a necron royal court and dished out to guardian/wraith units.

Wraithlord:
Is now S8, but stayed T8. The wraithsword (now Ghostglaive) gives +1 Strength and rerolls to hit.

Wraithknight:
240 points base. Can take dual wraithlances, a suncannon/shield or sword/shield. Comes with the lances as standard. S10, T8 with a 3+ save. Requires the shield to get an invuln.

Guardians are now WS/BS 4

Psychic powers:
Fortune is now 2 warp charges but allows rerolls to deny the witch
Doom now allows rerolls to armour pen as well.
One of the new dual powers is +1 to your armour save or -1 to your enemy (up to 2+ for your own units).
Enhance is now +1 WS AND Initiative, the debuff is -1 to both.
Mindwar is now 2 warp charges and drastically changed. Didnt get the full details.
Eldritch Storm is the same BUT is now haywire and fleshbane.

BIG new power - it's a little complicated and I didn't get the best read of it. Gives the caster +5WS +5BS +5 initiative and +2 attacks. Roll at the start of every subsequent turn. On a 4+ it stays in play. If the model dies or the power fades you cede a victory point.

Exarch powers:
There is now a pool of 6-8 exarch powers. The different aspects have access to 3 of the powers.
Powers include:
4+ invuln
3+ invuln in challenge
In a challenge both people roll a dice and add to their leadership; if the eldar player wins they can remove one of the opponents weapons from the fight. This means no AP or S bonus or additional attacks bonus!!!
Monster Hunter
Fast Shot remains
and a few more...

Dark Reapers can take flak missiles to be our AA...

Wraithfighter is a psyker mastery 1 and comes with the telepathy Terrify power.

Farseers are 3 wounds still and come standard as Mastery 3!!! Ghosthelms do what they did before; but if you fail your ghosthelm save you can spend 1 warp charge to ignore the wound (if you have charges left).

Aspect warriors are Ld9 base.

Someone claimed that there are point-restrictions on how many Wraithknights you can take (beside the FOC restriction of course).
Anyone knows if this is true or not?

Has anyone seen if Banshees have a way to get into combat?

Am I the only one constantly refreshing this page to see more awesome people telling us awesome things about our new awesome codex?

 Vaktathi wrote:
while I'm sure many competitive Eldar players are thrilled, making everything BS4 kinda rubs me the wrong way. Not because I think it'll be "zomgwtfbroken", but it really does reinforce the skewing of the statline, that anything with a "3" is "below average" instead of being...actually average, where 4 is the expected instead of the exceptional, and in a D6 system that's a rather big thing, and takes away from the specialness that being an Aspect Warrior, die hard veteran, or Space Marine is intended to portray.

I actually agree. Twin linking everything was a very easy fix to make Eldar weapons accurate but still not BS4 base. Having the same BS on Dark Reapers and Guardians?
I'd be much happier with guardians being BS3 and longer range catapults. Just give BS4 to platform operators if you really have to.
As for vehicles - give option for Aspect pilot and that would make them BS4 OR make it as it was - twin link stuff (maybe with a little discount).

I think I just spooged... :p
Really hope these are all true. My Black Guardians of Ulthwe are very happy indeed.

Glad to see RoW is gone, now if only the wolfies lost their runic weapons...