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 NoseGoblin wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Yes, I seriously considered that possibility- however, I already have excellent counts-as marines, which is why I'm here for the stormtroopers and hopefully soon APCs

Edit: And now today's funding is the highest yet... even more than Day 1!

This is the chart I'm referring to, from Kicktraq:

Yep, if it holds, we beat our first day totals.....

Beat it out by $28!

I'm glad we got some people off the fence yesterday, and now the upward projections have bumped even higher. Let's keep the trend going. I don't know how much its costing mark for the tooling of the sprues for some of these other sets, but at least the crusader is paid for. Is love for us to help him get the mortis paid for or even the mini guys set up as I think over the long haul those will probably produce more in returns as counts as dreadknights.

Only thing that bugs me is that I wish you could get the Valkir in 5 man groups for $11 like the assault and support guys. I just can't swing the cash for 20 of the guys, but would buy 5 or 10 in a heartbeat. I'm not even sure what I would do with them, but their main rifles just look awesome.

Have you considered doing just a 5 or 10 man increment of the valkir? I'd imagine you had to abandon it because of manufacturing or shipping concerns correct?

How is the total affecting the eventual retail prices of the kits? Would you be able to release the crusaders for, say $10 or $20 less than you're currently planning if you didn't have to fund any more stretch goals?

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Only thing that bugs me is that I wish you could get the Valkir in 5 man groups for $11 like the assault and support guys. I just can't swing the cash for 20 of the guys, but would buy 5 or 10 in a heartbeat. I'm not even sure what I would do with them, but their main rifles just look awesome.

Have you considered doing just a 5 or 10 man increment of the valkir? I'd imagine you had to abandon it because of manufacturing or shipping concerns correct?

I'd probably take a 10 man Valkir increment, I think it's because they're a core infantry choice though. The support gunners and assault troopers are elites, while the Valkir are heavy troopers they're "basic" so you want to buy those particular squaddies en masse.

On a side note I must revise my earlier math yet again on how much this would cost me from a certain other company.

Roughly: $1326

You could put it up another $72 if you wanted to count ALL the vulcan cannons. I didn't count the CCW arms.

So... ahh Mark, will DFG accept direct deposit of my paycheck? XD

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
How is the total affecting the eventual retail prices of the kits? Would you be able to release the crusaders for, say $10 or $20 less than you're currently planning if you didn't have to fund any more stretch goals?

I doubt that would change for the pennies (comparatively) left on the stretch goals here. From my understanding it's a math problem to set the price high enough that you can give the retailer a discount and still make a profit yourself, let the retailer make some money and still not rape the customer's wallet with a razor edged vacuum hose.

Yeah that's what I figured. I was just going to buy them so I could have some "spess mehreens" for playing around with, and these guys look like they beat up GW marines and steal their lunch money on a daily basis. And since my store doesn't care about 3rd party, and my storm troopers are becoming sisters of battle...

I wish I had another $40 laying around, I'd buy those guys in a heartbeat. Oh well, at least we know they'll be for sale in retail for sure now!

I'm in for some Heavy Assault troopers to go with my 15mm Crusader.

Good KS campaigns like this are just too hard to resist

Wham, bam and thank you ma'am, that's the 115k marker and the sane population of the United States hasn't even thought about waking up yet.

I finally stopped fooling myself that i was going to wait for these to go retail and pledged for 20 troopers and 1 set of support weapons. At the very least they'll be a decent contribution to my mixed IG regiment allies.

heh, running out of stretch goals now...

On the one hand I want more stretch goals, but my wallet says noooooo. I don't know if it would be better for mark to not put any more up and just take the extra financing to work on paying down mold debt, or if he can get wgf to create a stage 4 scenario. I would think he needs to hold onto something for the next kickstarter like the apc, or the next Titan design.

Charax wrote:
heh, running out of stretch goals now...

APC baby that's all I ask for! 4 days left, pace picking up... we can do this!

If the APC does end up going up, I'll have to get one. The only problem is, you'll hear my wallet creaking under the strain all the way to America!

MrMoustaffa wrote:Have you considered doing just a 5 or 10 man increment of the valkir? I'd imagine you had to abandon it because of manufacturing or shipping concerns correct?

From the listed contents, it sounds like the Valkir box consists of two copies of a sprue of ten armless Heavies and one copy of a sprue of arms/weapons. Presumably Mark felt a single sprue of five Heavies and their arms/weapons lacked enough variety for a core unit choice, and I'd have to agree.

RiTides wrote:Edit: And now today's funding is the highest yet... even more than Day 1!

This is the chart I'm referring to, from Kicktraq:

Wait, what? The chart I'm seeing looks like this:



Even the 29th didn't exceed Day 1. What does the chart you're seeing look like?

Hulksmash wrote:Anyone know if the Mortis right arm is locked outward like that or if that's just a possible pose?

It's just a possible pose.

 AlexHolker wrote:
I don't agree with the reasoning. It's a wheeled vehicle instead of a half-track, and powered by a supertech powerplant instead of a 1930s vintage ICE, so it shouldn't need such a big engine. Giving it one anyway as a shout-out to the 251 comes at the cost of usefulness as a gaming piece and crossover appeal.

Perhaps grooves could be added to the inside to indicate cut-lines for a Holker-pattern Keilerkopf with a smaller engine. That would require almost zero changes to the model and leave those who prefer the full-fat version unaffected, whilst aiding converters in cutting straight lines in the same places. Plus, once someone uploads templates of whatever pieces of plasticard they'd determined via trial-and-error to best join the two retained sections together everyone else can simply print them out on a big label, stick it on to a sheet of plasticard and cut out the pieces. Much easier.

I think maybe youve got the old one stuck in your cache or something?

This is what i see

Well, if the Valkir look that good, why stop myself from getting them, right? I'm already waiting for some stage 3 stuff, so I'll just add a box... just one box, it shouldn't hurt the wallet too much... hopefully.

As KalashnikovMarine just said, I was shocked to see that today's total was already in the 3K range, and it's not even 9:00 AM on the East Coast.

At least that money should go towards making this experience decidedly different from the whole hullabaloo WGF went through last time.

What hullabaloo would that be?
Oh.. and Hooray! Maybe we'll see something other than the APC... maybe the Puma?

The whole Wargames Factory takeover. I think there are still people on both side of the fence on this argument. I'm not sure if it is PC actually discuss it in the open. Can anyone weigh in on this before I actually do something bad?

I'd take it to pms so we don't derail the ks.

Also mark has a video up, I think it's new, hadn't seen I yet. Shows where we're at now.

I'll just say that the idea that Ghost Studios might try to seize control of DreamForge Games's work is rather less credible now than it was before Tony started Defiance Games. After all, Tony might have shed the so-called millstone around his neck, but I can still count the deadlines he hasn't missed on one finger.

True as well, Alex. Although data seems to imply that the more successful a KS is, the more delays there will be. Mark might make them lie, however.

Oh how I would love to see that.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Although data seems to imply that the more successful a KS is, the more delays there will be.

Based on my own, yes, that is totally true :/

 Necros wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Although data seems to imply that the more successful a KS is, the more delays there will be.

Based on my own, yes, that is totally true :/

Yeah!

All joking aside, I think dreamforge might be getting some of my money now. I just have to decide what I want to buy. I don't NEED 60 stormtroopers, but who knows!

sparkywtf wrote:

 Necros wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Although data seems to imply that the more successful a KS is, the more delays there will be.

Based on my own, yes, that is totally true :/

Yeah!

All joking aside, I think dreamforge might be getting some of my money now. I just have to decide what I want to buy. I don't NEED 60 stormtroopers, but who knows!

like you said...you have to decide what you WANT...not what you need

So close to the 120k stretch goal... we need a new one !

APC ?

Pretty please

Okay, time for me to get off the fence, pull the trigger and pledge ...

Do we have a general idea what these kits will be when they hit the street ? I have to weigh what I spend now against what it will cost later.

@Myrthe

More than the Kickstarter price, especially if you go in on the multiples. My guess is since he's added so much stuff that the pricing will be at least 20% than the base kickstarter price. That's just an estimate but since he threw all the extra stuff in I'd say it's a solid one.

Okay, took the plunge and helped the project to reach 120k

 Hulksmash wrote:
@Myrthe

More than the Kickstarter price, especially if you go in on the multiples. My guess is since he's added so much stuff that the pricing will be at least 20% than the base kickstarter price. That's just an estimate but since he threw all the extra stuff in I'd say it's a solid one.

Great, thanks !! Now to go beat my whimpering wallet into submission. SO many Kickstarters, so little money !!!

Okay Mark, bring forth the APC we are real close now to unlocking everything and I need some rides for my stormtroopers and heavy troopers to ride in.