Daemons of Chaos Rumours (Fantasy & 40k) - First post updated with release list, prices, and pics!

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**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Nah,

You have to admit Toyota was just as badly managed (look at the string of 'serious enough to kill you' recalls they've had to do recently), you just didn't see the problems on the surface

And Honda got fed up with Formula 1 and sold the team to Ross Braun when they'd just designed a championship winning car.

Edit: now if you'd said Nissan/Lexus I wouldn't have had a snappy comeback

**Azreal13**

Kolbalt266 wrote:
With the statement by a Birdy, that WD will no longer have updates, See:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/502759.page

Do you think will we will get actual books in march or will they release other form of an update, like a PDF or in-store pamflet

Aren't Harry and Hastings both agreed that it's an Army Book/Codex release?

That's as good as nailed on for me, the only doubt I've seen cast on that has been by other forum users, not by any rumormongers of note.

**Medium of Death**

It would be a bit weird if it was another WD update for Daemons considering that they have only recently just had one.

**Shandara**

They mostly released the update to boost their new plastic kits I guess.

**l0k1**

Daemons do need a new army book. I imagine sales of flamers and screamers were terrible so they did the update to boost those sales knowing the new book would nerf them back to mediocre units.

I would love to see the tally ability shifted to a khorne daemon. Quite honestly it makes more sense than nurgle, at least to me.

**Slayer le boucher**

"Skulls for Khorne's Throne tally"...mmmh

All deamons of Khorne and Models with the MoK.
0-4 Kills-nothing
5-9 Gets armorbane
10-14 gets Flesh bane
15-19 Swords becomes AP2
21+ Gets Rampage rule.

Yeah wishlisting, i know, but its funny...

I do however hope that Blessing of the blood god stays like it is, its always funny to have your BT have a 2++ save against GK's...

**l0k1**

It is wishlisting but would make bloodletters and ally berzerkers worth picking up again.

**matphat**

Tick tock. I'm holding my breath hoping this is the truth. I'm hoping to gift my wife some new models and a new book. She plays Daemons and knows nothing about these rumors other than there is "Some rumor of new daemons"
Especially since I didn't get to start that DA army because of the prices. I sure hope they don't do the same to the new Daemons prices.

**Dawnbringer**

matphat wrote:

Especially since I didn't get to start that DA army because of the prices. I sure hope they don't do the same to the new Daemons prices.

Good luck with that one.

**l0k1**

Dawnbringer wrote:
matphat wrote:

Especially since I didn't get to start that DA army because of the prices. I sure hope they don't do the same to the new Daemons prices.

Good luck with that one.

Yeah prices are still going to be outrageous. I just hope they don't do another price increase this summer.

**RatBot**

l0k1 wrote:
Dawnbringer wrote:
matphat wrote:

Especially since I didn't get to start that DA army because of the prices. I sure hope they don't do the same to the new Daemons prices.

Good luck with that one.

Yeah prices are still going to be outrageous. I just hope they don't do another price increase this summer.

I would be utterly astonished if they didn't.

**matphat**

RatBot wrote:
l0k1 wrote:
Dawnbringer wrote:
matphat wrote:

Especially since I didn't get to start that DA army because of the prices. I sure hope they don't do the same to the new Daemons prices.

Good luck with that one.

Yeah prices are still going to be outrageous. I just hope they don't do another price increase this summer.

I would be utterly astonished if they didn't.

BLAH! BUMMED!

**Medium of Death**

What I don't get is, if we have pictures from the latest WD and Daemons are meant to be March, shouldn't the "back page" have a teaser of what's to come. Unless they stopped doing that, why wouldn't somebody take a picture of that?

**Matt.Kingsley**

The 'Teasers' are now just a picture of a model with a quote, and that model almost always has nothing to do with next month.
At least, in the Australian WD it does.

**Experiment 626**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
The 'Teasers' are now just a picture of a model with a quote, and that model almost always has nothing to do with next month.
At least, in the Australian WD it does.

Nope, it's all of them!

No more back page teasers anymore...

Oh well, with the rumors of no more WD rules inserts, perhaps this means that the "Flyer Wave Rumors version 1,000.5" are way off base again and thus open the door for some long awaited Daemonic rules updates.

Overall Daemons are an utter mess in both games and need some serious work to fix the whole clusterfeth'ed issue.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Apparently the "flyer wave" is for a flyer expansion...
IF those rumors are true...

**Mad4Minis**

RatBot wrote:
l0k1 wrote:
Dawnbringer wrote:
matphat wrote:

Especially since I didn't get to start that DA army because of the prices. I sure hope they don't do the same to the new Daemons prices.

Good luck with that one.

Yeah prices are still going to be outrageous. I just hope they don't do another price increase this summer.

I would be utterly astonished if they didn't.

Agreed. Im getting back into 40k and Im going to get the vast majority of what I need within the next 4-8 weeks so I can avoid the major hit thats surely coming by mid summer. Im really leaning towards Tau, which means a whole new army from scratch...thats gonna be expensive enough as it is, never mind after another price increase. Actually if I had to wait until after Id likely just say nevermind and leave 40k alone and do something else.

**Freakish1987**

Slayer le boucher wrote:
"Skulls for Khorne's Throne tally"...mmmh

All deamons of Khorne and Models with the MoK.
0-4 Kills-nothing
5-9 Gets armorbane
10-14 gets Flesh bane
15-19 Swords becomes AP2
21+ Gets Rampage rule.

Yeah wishlisting, i know, but its funny...

I do however hope that Blessing of the blood god stays like it is, its always funny to have your BT have a 2++ save against GK's...

Khorne cares not how many skulls are offered, only that they KEEP COMING and never stop!!

Odd that we had a flurry of posts regarding DoC and CD before the unexpected WoC release, and now its gone quiet again. Not that i have much cause for doubt when it comes to the kind of things Harry and Hastings say, their portents are more right than wrong from my observations.

**BrassScorpion**

Yeah prices are still going to be outrageous. I just hope they don't do another price increase this summer.

There has been a price increase every spring for as long as I can remember and the last two increases were especially outrageous on some of the most popular items like Space Marine vehicles. Increases occur around June 1 every year and I'm certain this year will be no different. I've already been kidding around with friends about being afraid to see what June 1 will bring from GW this year. If there's anything you want now be certain to buy it before the end of May.

Of course the new philosophy this past year has been to increase prices with every release from the earlier price point on comparable items. It's amazing and some of the pricing is absurd.

By the way, the re-boxed Chimera for Warriors of Chaos is going up slightly in price. In the US it's currently $41.25, it will be $45 in the new box with updated artwork.

**nolzur**

BrassScorpion wrote:
Yeah prices are still going to be outrageous. I just hope they don't do another price increase this summer.
There has been a price increase every spring for as long as I can remember and the last two increases were especially outrageous on some of the most popular items like Space Marine vehicles.

I have been into 40k for almost 3 years. In that time, a Land Raider has gone from $60 to $66 to $74.25. I wonder how much will it go up this year??

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Now, this is the same kit, no changes, same box, and I know inflation has not gone up that much.

The price of oil has gone down in that time, so it cannot be that - why do you want us to be poor GW?

**Mafty**

any updates on if daemons are getting new book?

**pretre**

Did you read the thread?

**pretre**

Stickmonkey via Bols wrote:
Overview and Schedule
The Chaos Daemons release slot as last time around is a dual system release, updating the repsective armies for both Warhammer 40,000, and Warhammer Fantasy. There are a large number of models to be released as well as both books, so look for it to get broken up into 2 waves at least - with the lower possibility of 3 waves.

Look for the initial wave next month, and follow up waves a quarter later. That would put the first wave in March and the followup in June. Note however that Games Workshop has this thing for releasing Daemons in August - so that second wave might slide a little.

In any case, onto the waves themselves:

Wave 1
BloodThirster/Skarbrand (plastic)
Great Unclean One (plastic)
Chariot of Khorne/Herald of Khorne/Khorne Cannonade (anyone remember the old epic Doom Blaster)
Plague Flies of Nurgle
Palanquin of Nurgle/KuGath upgrade/Herald of Nurgle
Fiend of Slaanesh

There is also word of a named Daemon Prince and several smaller finecast models as well.

**wyomingfox**

Does SM get credit for repeating himself

Though the GD of Khorne having parts to make Skar Brand might be new.

**Sasori**

I wonder if this means the codex will this coming wave in March?

**pretre**

Yeah, nothing like reemphasizing something you already said.

**Azreal13**

Is that a firm rumour on a plastic Fiend?

Last I heard they had been spotted and then vanished again, so this is the first firm inclusion of them I've seen in any rumour.

GDs with alternative parts has been going around for a while, flip flops between named characters and alternate options for modelling.

Can't recall a named DP before now either, so it's not entirely a retread.

One thing, while I quite like the idea of the Plague Flies, isn't it slightly counter to the whole Nurgle idea of Romero-esque shuffling plague monsters to have a unit that will likely be zipping around all over the shop?

**Hulksmash**

I'm looking forward to the Chaos Daemon release. If only because it'll bring another range closer to being 100% plastic. Of the current models in the range only the Beasts of Nurgle, Fiends, Flesh Hounds, Furies, and Characters are metal/finecast. I'm personally looking forward to an almost entirely plastic range.

**timetowaste85**

Is anyone else as deeply disturbed by the possibility (reality) that the Daemons will be similarly priced to match WoC? Greater Daemons will be around $85, Khorne chariots will be $40ish, etc. Good thing I already have all the old GDs and actually like them. I also have everything I need to make my own chariots, so I don't have to pay the outrageous upcoming fees.

**kenshin620**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Is anyone else as deeply disturbed by the possibility (reality) that the Daemons will be similarly priced to match WoC? Greater Daemons will be around $85, Khorne chariots will be $40ish, etc. Good thing I already have all the old GDs and actually like them. I also have everything I need to make my own chariots, so I don't have to pay the outrageous upcoming fees.

Well on the bright side it will be cheaper to buy Ultraforge!