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 pretre wrote:
Keep in mind that most of Tasty's remarks are speculation.

Hence why I've printed off a sheet of them and dumped them where they belong - my kittens' poop-box!

 reds8n wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HeYgzDvqOK4

obligatory Youtube teaser.

While notvery helpful, like always, I has half-expecting some worse to happen to the skull.

Like, oh I dunno, start bleeding for something. It'd been much scarier that way, IMO.

By, the way, is it okay if I just put the video up on this?

 reds8n wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HeYgzDvqOK4

obligatory Youtube teaser.

It's also shown on White Dwarf Daily today (along with my Ork Air Force!).

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=7900032

3 plastic kits and 3 mansize models on foot is a pretty underwhelming Codex/Army book release

really disappointed about the no new GDs

why is it every army seems to get new big giant monsters but (arguably) GWs most iconic monsters are still 15 years old?

Experiment 626 wrote:

- Psychic powers are fine as long as we still keep Daemonic Gifts!!!
!

Gifts arent going away because it would invalidate a Grey Knight power

Almost certain Blessing of the Blood God is getting nerfed though

Chad Warden wrote:
Almost certain Blessing of the Blood God is getting nerfed though

I hope not, but if it does, I'll almost certainly pull my Bloodthirster out of my lists for a bit and replace him with a Lord of Change.

Before the "whaaaaat no GD's suckz!11!!1!" goes too far, remember this: GW now releases all the brand NEW! units to stop 3rd party producers from scooping their IP/sales.

H&H as well as Avian and a couple others are still pegging the new plastic Greaters as being a 2-per-month release over the summer.
But they currently have models, even if they're old as fossilised dung.

Also, I doubt this is entire release. 3 mid-sized kits + a few man-sized characters seems pretty underwhelming. Hopefully there's one more big kit we haven't heard about yet. (or else Tzeentch is being a giant d*** and simply pulling my leg...)

Ah yes, this is what I have been waiting for! Looking forward to some rules leaks and pictures though, that's for sure!

Embedding the vid is fine

@ Mr. 'scorpion : good for you ! I'm assuming yours is the .. the... the threesome ... ?

Very nice, as are the others too.

 undertow wrote:

Chad Warden wrote:
Almost certain Blessing of the Blood God is getting nerfed though

I hope not, but if it does, I'll almost certainly pull my Bloodthirster out of my lists for a bit and replace him with a Lord of Change.

I'm honestly hoping that the Greaters in 40k get a boost to bring them more in line with their Fantasy counterparts...

An un-upgraded Fantasy Bloodthirster is still miles above the sad, pathetic thing of his 40k rival.
Fantasy GUO's have 10 wounds for feth's sake!!! If ANYTHING in 40k deserves to be ultra resiliant, it should be grand-daddy Nurgle's boy getting T6/W8 or so.

Experiment 626 wrote:

 undertow wrote:

Chad Warden wrote:
Almost certain Blessing of the Blood God is getting nerfed though

I hope not, but if it does, I'll almost certainly pull my Bloodthirster out of my lists for a bit and replace him with a Lord of Change.

I'm honestly hoping that the Greaters in 40k get a boost to bring them more in line with their Fantasy counterparts...

An un-upgraded Fantasy Bloodthirster is still miles above the sad, pathetic thing of his 40k rival.
Fantasy GUO's have 10 wounds for feth's sake!!! If ANYTHING in 40k deserves to be ultra resiliant, it should be grand-daddy Nurgle's boy getting T6/W8 or so.

Yeah, I've always thought it was odd that a GUO had the same statline as a GD of Slaanesh or Tzeentch.

I'm not really interested in picking up any Heralds, unless the new codex makes them much better.

I hope some Flyer can be released and some skyfire unit to.

Will we be able to get the leaked pictures (when released) here on dakka or do we have to go to Warseer again? :/

 reds8n wrote:
Embedding the vid is fine

@ Mr. 'scorpion : good for you ! I'm assuming yours is the .. the... the threesome ... ?

Yes, thanks! Some of those pictures are also in my Dakkadakka Gallery.

I hope someone gets their White Dwarf a few days early (someone nearly always does!) and posts pics of the new Daemon models, though advance orders appear to only be five days away on Feb. 23 so we should have good official pics in just a few days.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Will we be able to get the leaked pictures (when released) here on dakka or do we have to go to Warseer again? :/

If you're asking about scanned copies of White Dwarf articles, no. That's been discussed many times, and Dakka doesn't want to get in trouble for hosting copy written information. Not sure why you're even asking, honestly.

 undertow wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:

I'm honestly hoping that the Greaters in 40k get a boost to bring them more in line with their Fantasy counterparts...

An un-upgraded Fantasy Bloodthirster is still miles above the sad, pathetic thing of his 40k rival.
Fantasy GUO's have 10 wounds for feth's sake!!! If ANYTHING in 40k deserves to be ultra resiliant, it should be grand-daddy Nurgle's boy getting T6/W8 or so.

Yeah, I've always thought it was odd that a GUO had the same statline as a GD of Slaanesh or Tzeentch.

I'm not really interested in picking up any Heralds, unless the new codex makes them much better.

JvK over at Librarium-Online mentioned about Heralds no longer being a 2-for-1 slot option, but gaining a good amount of new options & upgrades.

I'm hoping in a sense they become scaled like;
a) Taking just a single upgrade or two keeps them at their current state and keeps them cheap.

b) Fully kitting them out gives us something more akin to the old 'Exalted Daemons' from the Storm of Chaos Daemonic Legions army list - so something on the level of a Space Marine Captain/Chaos Lord level of abilities.

That could make for some real utility and variation in playstyles imho. Take a Greater and you can still take a cheapo Herald to run with another unit, or else sacrifice the Greater/s but still get a solid Warlord who's no pushover, (unlike the current Heralds who pretty much *need* a Jugger/Dice/Chariot to not hand-over the 'Slay the Warlord' victory point!)

Since we're only 2(?) weeks away from having the codex in our hands, I'm gonna guess that Tasty's info is mostly accurate.

It occurs to me that GW's answer to Daemons' problems in dealing with Warp Quake is to have the Daemons less reliant on DS in the first place. Didn't see that one coming, I gotta admit. Then again, it's believable that they'd run with the idea of making them more conventional. After all, we've had hints about them losing EW, (re-)gaining psychic powers, etc. So the removal of Daemonic Assault kinda fits into that, especially since some of their faster units have recently received new kits and buffs. Likewise, removal of the 2-for-1 heralds in exchange for more options makes their HQs more conventional.

From a sales and marketing perspective, this might make Daemons seem less random and more palatable to new players, while forcing existing players to make some significant changes to their armies.

gorgon wrote:
Since we're only 2(?) weeks away from having the codex in our hands, I'm gonna guess that Tasty's info is mostly accurate.

It occurs to me that GW's answer to Daemons' problems in dealing with Warp Quake is to have the Daemons less reliant on DS in the first place. Didn't see that one coming, I gotta admit. Then again, it's believable that they'd run with the idea of making them more conventional. After all, we've had hints about them losing EW, (re-)gaining psychic powers, etc. So the removal of Daemonic Assault kinda fits into that, especially since some of their faster units have recently received new kits and buffs. Likewise, removal of the 2-for-1 heralds in exchange for more options makes their HQs more conventional.

From a sales and marketing perspective, this might make Daemons seem less random and more palatable to new players, while forcing existing players to make some significant changes to their armies.

No sure how accurate his informtion is when he posts he doesn't think they are coming out till at least April and the next morning information for the upcoming release pops up. But we'll see in 2-3 weeks

gorgon wrote:
Since we're only 2(?) weeks away from having the codex in our hands, I'm gonna guess that Tasty's info is mostly accurate.

It occurs to me that GW's answer to Daemons' problems in dealing with Warp Quake is to have the Daemons less reliant on DS in the first place. Didn't see that one coming, I gotta admit. Then again, it's believable that they'd run with the idea of making them more conventional. After all, we've had hints about them losing EW, (re-)gaining psychic powers, etc. So the removal of Daemonic Assault kinda fits into that, especially since some of their faster units have recently received new kits and buffs. Likewise, removal of the 2-for-1 heralds in exchange for more options makes their HQs more conventional.

From a sales and marketing perspective, this might make Daemons seem less random and more palatable to new players, while forcing existing players to make some significant changes to their armies.

He actually prefaces his whole post with the fact he still believes they're due in April, so, accuracy, yeah...

gorgon wrote:
Since we're only 2(?) weeks away from having the codex in our hands, I'm gonna guess that Tasty's info is mostly accurate.

It occurs to me that GW's answer to Daemons' problems in dealing with Warp Quake is to have the Daemons less reliant on DS in the first place. Didn't see that one coming, I gotta admit. Then again, it's believable that they'd run with the idea of making them more conventional. After all, we've had hints about them losing EW, (re-)gaining psychic powers, etc. So the removal of Daemonic Assault kinda fits into that, especially since some of their faster units have recently received new kits and buffs. Likewise, removal of the 2-for-1 heralds in exchange for more options makes their HQs more conventional.

From a sales and marketing perspective, this might make Daemons seem less random and more palatable to new players, while forcing existing players to make some significant changes to their armies.

And to add to this trend...

IIRC, ever since 3rd edition Daemons have only ever deployed via Deep Strike... so sure, Daemonic Assault isn't anything important like say, the army's entire defining identiy!

 Hulksmash wrote:

gorgon wrote:
Since we're only 2(?) weeks away from having the codex in our hands, I'm gonna guess that Tasty's info is mostly accurate.

It occurs to me that GW's answer to Daemons' problems in dealing with Warp Quake is to have the Daemons less reliant on DS in the first place. Didn't see that one coming, I gotta admit. Then again, it's believable that they'd run with the idea of making them more conventional. After all, we've had hints about them losing EW, (re-)gaining psychic powers, etc. So the removal of Daemonic Assault kinda fits into that, especially since some of their faster units have recently received new kits and buffs. Likewise, removal of the 2-for-1 heralds in exchange for more options makes their HQs more conventional.

From a sales and marketing perspective, this might make Daemons seem less random and more palatable to new players, while forcing existing players to make some significant changes to their armies.

No sure how accurate his informtion is when he posts he doesn't think they are coming out till at least April and the next morning information for the upcoming release pops up. But we'll see in 2-3 weeks

His record in the rumor tracker thread is pretty good, but I do hope this gets added to his 'miss' column.

I wouldn't consider anything he posted in his post a rumor. It's pretty obvious speculation and he seems to frame it as such. Like I said earlier, when he actually knows something he's a lot more specific.

 Hulksmash wrote:
I wouldn't consider anything he posted in his post a rumor. It's pretty obvious speculation and he seems to frame it as such. Like I said earlier, when he actually knows something he's a lot more specific.

I don't know. I tried to carve the speculation out of that, but some of it uses pretty certain language. The problem with being a rumor monger is that when you speculate, people take it as rumor and a sign of things to come.

I did give him a false for the April bit though.

Experiment 626 wrote:

gorgon wrote:
Since we're only 2(?) weeks away from having the codex in our hands, I'm gonna guess that Tasty's info is mostly accurate.

It occurs to me that GW's answer to Daemons' problems in dealing with Warp Quake is to have the Daemons less reliant on DS in the first place. Didn't see that one coming, I gotta admit. Then again, it's believable that they'd run with the idea of making them more conventional. After all, we've had hints about them losing EW, (re-)gaining psychic powers, etc. So the removal of Daemonic Assault kinda fits into that, especially since some of their faster units have recently received new kits and buffs. Likewise, removal of the 2-for-1 heralds in exchange for more options makes their HQs more conventional.

From a sales and marketing perspective, this might make Daemons seem less random and more palatable to new players, while forcing existing players to make some significant changes to their armies.

And to add to this trend...

IIRC, ever since 3rd edition Daemons have only ever deployed via Deep Strike... so sure, Daemonic Assault isn't anything important like say, the army's entire defining identiy!

Doesn't mean that some units in the codex wouldn't have DS, though. Or that there wouldn't be other kinds of mechanics, like warp portals. Hey, I personally figured that they'd take a "do no harm" approach to the army, much like they did with DA (heck, Belial even kept his weapon options, which is unusual for a SC). I guess I'm saying that it's believable that they could want to make the army more conventional, and some of these items would fit in that context.

I suppose some of these rumormongers -- especially the ones with blogs and traffic to consider -- might have little remorse or conscience about what they post. Still, given that we're going to know what's up in a couple weeks...would Tasty risk running with a bunch of speculation and/or sketchy info he didn't trust this close to the release date? Seems like there's more downside risk to his rep with this timeframe. *shrug* Guess we'll see soon.

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Herald of Nurgle

This Clampack contains a new plastic Herald of Nurgle on a sculpted base
New Finecast Releases

Herald of Khorne

A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature


Herald of Slaanesh

A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature

Ah c'mon! One plastic and two in FineCost?

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Psychic Powers: Chaos Daemons

A deck of 12 cards that contains the Primaris powers and 3 Psychic powers for the Lores Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Nurgle as well

Anyone know if these cards are the same powers as the ones from the Chaos Marine Codex?

No rumors at all on those psychic powers, HBMC.

Quite sure it were mentioned 3 powers to a God, with a cross-over power from CSMs.

Who would need to use these powers? Heralds? Regular units? Greater Daemons? Daemon Princes? All of them?

 Requiem wrote:
Who would need to use these powers? Heralds? Regular units? Greater Daemons? Daemon Princes? All of them?

Traditionally, Greaters, Princes & Heralds/Exalted Daemons.
Of corse, in Fantasy, Pinkies are special snowflake who get their own set of magic spells & wizard levels to play with, depending on how big the unit is.


Now for the million dollar question: How will GW make Furies suck this edition?!

Experiment 626 wrote:
Now for the million dollar question: How will GW make Furies suck this edition?!

For every point you spend on Furies, your opponent gets two points added to their points-limit.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:
Now for the million dollar question: How will GW make Furies suck this edition?!

For every point you spend on Furies, your opponent gets two points added to their points-limit.

For every point spent on Furies, you are shot in the leg. You're opponent recieves several medals congratulating him or her on the victory and is given £100,000 cash prize.