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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Actually, that isn't too bad if you consider they deploy on the table.

Having units dissappear at random cinematic isn't that bad? Really?

Oh look, I've lost because I rolled a one for my Plague Bearers holding the objective, but it isn't that bad.

I guess that my continued purchasing of GW stuff will depend on how balanced the rules for chaos demons are. I feel that the CSM suffer from balance issues and challenge mechanics when facing marines. If Chaos demons suffer from similar afflicitons i may not buy any of this stuff.

I play nurgle and i must say, I am not fond of either of the models presented here. Once again, rules may dictate my considering them as potential purchases, but the price of the Flies (60$) seems a bit much for three models.

 blood reaper wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Actually, that isn't too bad if you consider they deploy on the table.

Having units dissappear at random cinematic isn't that bad? Really?

Oh look, I've lost because I rolled a one for my Plague Bearers holding the objective, but it isn't that bad.

Except, as has been said a couple times, we have no idea about the rest of the rules. For all we know, you can take a locus or banner that prevents instability. Why don't we wait to see the rules before freaking out?

 blood reaper wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Actually, that isn't too bad if you consider they deploy on the table.

Having units dissappear at random cinematic isn't that bad? Really?

Oh look, I've lost because I rolled a one for my Plague Bearers holding the objective, but it isn't that bad.

maybe the rule will have an exclusion like while holding an objective or while engaged in combat, you do not roll for that unit or something to that effect.

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 pretre wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Actually, that isn't too bad if you consider they deploy on the table.

Having units dissappear at random cinematic isn't that bad? Really?

Oh look, I've lost because I rolled a one for my Plague Bearers holding the objective, but it isn't that bad.

Except, as has been said a couple times, we have no idea about the rest of the rules. For all we know, you can take a locus or banner that prevents instability. Why don't we wait to see the rules before freaking out?

I'm not freaking out, I'm just responding to you're post.

 blood reaper wrote:
I'm not freaking out, I'm just responding to you're post.

Except for the two times you mentioned quitting because of the rumored new rules, sure...

Depending on price the Beasts of Nurgle might be pretty sweet....I like beasts

 pretre wrote:
Except, as has been said a couple times, we have no idea about the rest of the rules. For all we know, you can take a locus or banner that prevents instability. Why don't we wait to see the rules before freaking out?

Quite besides the point. You said that the rule (knowing only what we know) "isn't that bad". Units vanishing off the table at random cinematic is that bad. It's game-destroying. Whether or not we know the full rule is immaterial to the fact that you think units vanishing "isn't that bad".

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Except, as has been said a couple times, we have no idea about the rest of the rules. For all we know, you can take a locus or banner that prevents instability. Why don't we wait to see the rules before freaking out?

Quite besides the point. You said that the rule (knowing only what we know) "isn't that bad". Units vanishing off the table at random cinematic is that bad. It's game-destroying. Whether or not we know the full rule is immaterial to the fact that you think units vanishing "isn't that bad".

As known right now, it is pretty bad. Again, you are jumping the gun by making an assessment based on insufficient information, however.

Heralds seem to keep the 2 for 1 slots in the new pages from WD.

Intersting notes on the cannon. Looks like it might be a BS5 Large blast (as it's pretty hard to kill 4 marines with an AP4 small blast).

Break out the St10. Nurgle looks like it's going to be a toughy.

 gorgon wrote:
Heralds seem to keep the 2 for 1 slots in the new pages from WD.

Yeah, that's 4 heralds and one Daemon Prince in one army list...

I count 5 HQ choices. How many can Daemons have???

Maybe they are like a court. For a DP or GD you can take 1-5 Heralds? Don't know, don't care, just wanna play with toys. More ilkely it's a 2k+ game.

I also see a LOT of mastery levels up there.


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Appears the anteater noses are a wargear upgrade for the flies.

 pretre wrote:
As known right now, it is pretty bad. Again, you are jumping the gun by making an assessment based on insufficient information, however.

I'm making an assumption based upon known information with the obvious caveat that there may be more. And you said it wasn't that bad, and now you're saying it is, so you're back tracking.

So with Pink Horrors listing "Blue Horrors" as a special rule are we returning to them splitting in two when they die?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 pretre wrote:
As known right now, it is pretty bad. Again, you are jumping the gun by making an assessment based on insufficient information, however.

I'm making an assumption based upon known information with the obvious caveat that there may be more. And you said it wasn't that bad, and now you're saying it is, so you're back tracking.

Because I have received more information from good daemon players that I respect (Hulk and such) saying that it would be bad. So yes, I backtracked on receiving more information.

Man, I swear I must have peed in your cheerios at some point.

 Eldarain wrote:
So with Pink Horrors listing "Blue Horrors" as a special rule are we returning to them splitting in two when they die?

Maybe it's just a regen save of sorts?

Haven't the last few battle reports been just them bringing whatever they wanted to the table? Following a scenario instead of sticking to a FOC.

Looking at it a second time it's not the entire force. They talk about using the new skull cannon and tzeentch flame chariot and those aren't listed so it's likely a 2k+ list.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Looking at it a second time it's not the entire force. They talk about using the new skull cannon and tzeentch flame chariot and those aren't listed so it's likely a 2k+ list.

Those are both listed on the far right.

I'll be honest these new models for the most part look awkward and overly cartoonish. I probably never would have started 40k if the first models I saw looked like this, and I started back in 2nd edition.

I liked most of the Dark Angels and Chaos release (except the Land Speeder 64 and the mawfiend thing) and the heralds don't look bad, but some stuff is starting to look downright goofy - flies, skull cannon, etc.

Correction for me being and idiot, definitely over 2k but that would still imply 2 for 1 slots on the heralds.

And poop, the new chariots are all heavies too. That means I'm not gonna be able to make a super friends chariot amry

Can anyone read the rules on the beast of nurgle? I was trying to squint my eyes and read a little bit.. but can't really make it out, lol.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Correction for me being and idiot, definitely over 2k but that would still imply 2 for 1 slots on the heralds.

And poop, the new chariots are all heavies too. That means I'm not gonna be able to make a super friends chariot amry

Play WHFB where there's a decent chance they're core?

The more I read the comments from the batrep the more concerned I am but I'm holding off judgement....really, I am....

@Swara: They have It Will Not Die! And Very Bulky and Poisoned (4+), I believe.

Basically, a Beast of Nurgle unit that is unengaged can charge in the enemy's assault phase that assaulted ANY friendly unit of your's that is within 12", against that unit. So, you get a free charge in THEIR Assault Phase, and resolve the charge.

This goes for multiple other Beast units too, so if you have 2x within 12", they can both charge.