Fanticide Kickstarter

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**CT GAMER**

NoseGoblin wrote:
Kickstarter is a great tool to make things happen that may not have been possible otherwise.

Will GW jump in? If they can suck up their pride, I think they will

They should do a kickstarter for Plastic Thunderhawk...

JB

I like what little I know about the rules and the design team certainly looks promising. A fantasy skirmish game that gets away from UGO IGO and allows me to use almost any models that I own is worth a demo play at least.

I'm not crazy about a few things though. The name "Fanticide' and the title "Homicidal Warbands" carry negative baggage on a subconscious level and don't seem to be family friendly gaming material. The minis are not very appealing to me except for the Eun and maybe the flying monkeys because they're relatively novel in the current miniature market.

The spell templates look interesting. I missed them in the Kickstarter options though.

For the curious. here is the link to JHall's original Alien Dungeon: Fanticide thread. In it you can read more about the development of the game.

Ultimately, I think I will use the rules and action cards with better looking minis.

**choasdwarflord**

There was a write up in the latest issue of The Ancible number 16. as well.

http://www.the-ancible.com/

Also their website is http://www.aliendungeon.com

**choasdwarflord**

New Update from Alien Dungeon

Project Update #2

Thank you all so much for the great reception to the Fanticide Kickstarter. We have reached the halfway goal already and we are only 2 days into the project! As a thank you for this fantastic support, all backers at the Slasher Level ($45) and Above will now receive this fantastic Unicorn model absolutely free!

The Unicorns of Nowhere are voracious killing machines and not your usual sparkly, happy creatures! As a crucial Event Card in the game, we wanted to make sure that everyone had one as soon as possible!

So thank you again for your support and keep spreading the word. We are planning some other surprises for you before it is all over!

In case you missed the last update it had contents of the Boxed Armies

Liberi Starter Band Box Set - 22 models
Stickers: Centaurs With Spears 8 (all variants included), Bases: 25x50mm 8
Shootists: Centaurs With Bows 6 (all Variants included), Bases: 25x50mm 6
Crushers: Centaurs with Head Dresses 4 (all variants included), Bases: 25x50mm 4
Peeves: Vultures 3 (all variants included), Bases: 40mm 3
Legend: Centaur Chief 1, Bases: 25x50mm 1
Game Points Total: 600 (approximate)

Fae Starter Box Set - 26 models
Stickers Satyr with Spear 10 (all variants included) 25mm 10
Shootists Satyr with Bow 8 (all Variants included) 25mm 8
Crushers Bogies 4 (all variants included) 40mm 4
Peeves Brownies 30 small, makes 3 stands (all variants included), Bases: 40mm 3
Legend Satyr Legend 1, Bases: 25mm 1
Game Points Total: 500(approximate)

Monkey Starter Set - 32 models
Stickers: Monkey with Spear 10 (all variants included), Bases: 25mm 10
Slashers: Monkey with Sword 10 (all variants included), Bases: 25mm 10
Shootists: Monkey Bow 10 (all variants included), Bases: 25mm 10
Crushers: Flying Carpet 1 (random), Bases: 40mm 1
Legend: Monkey with ball 1, Bases: 25mm 1
Game Points Total: 340 (approximate)

Creep Starter Set - 28 models
Clubbers: Assorted Creeps 20 (all variants included), Bases: 25mm 20
Crushers: 40mm Creeps 4 (all variants Included), Bases: 40mm 4
Peeves: Puddles of Creeps 3 (all variants Included)Bases: 40mm 3
Legend: Creepy Mother, Bases: Big Oval 1
Transfers: Creep Eyes
Game Points Total: 360 (approximate)

**frozenwastes**

cincydooley wrote:
So....1985 called. They want their miniatures back.

Usenet called, they want their lack of manners back.

I'm excited to hear the game is flexible when it comes to designing your own warband. I already have a lot of miniatures for fantasy skirmish and the Reaper Bones thing is going to increase them even further.

I'm definitely going to keep tabs on this Kickstarter.

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The rulebook preview is actually pretty cool:

http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=112&Itemid=560

I like the card activation idea. I like the idea of leaders reactivating squads for more actions.

I like the model count of around 30 miniatures.

**Azazelx**

I'm not interested in this Kickstarter, but I do plan to buy the rulebook at some stage. Might pick up the cards as well. I'll do it from a free-shipping discount UK retailer though, as it'll be significantly cheaper than via KS.

**Erasoketa**

The possibility of making bands with minis you already own is very attractive, but I think it will be still unlikely to see gamers interested in Fanticide in my city.

**Taarnak**

scipio.au wrote:
I'm not interested in this Kickstarter, but I do plan to buy the rulebook at some stage. Might pick up the cards as well. I'll do it from a free-shipping discount UK retailer though, as it'll be significantly cheaper than via KS.

This is me as well. Except that it will be a US discount retailer though.

The miniatures don't interest me at all. When did "Charming" and "Characterful" become cover for "Poorly Sculpted"?

~Eric

**Necros**

If you don't like the minis you could always use the bucket of figs you can get from Reaper

**Taarnak**

Necros wrote:
If you don't like the minis you could always use the bucket of figs you can get from Reaper

That is quite likely to happen.

Although I also went in for the Goalsystem Delves KS, and that will be their primary use.

~Eric

Edit: Typos

**choasdwarflord**

I have a mountain of reaper coming and this is where I will funnel most of them. Lots of greats options there.

If you look on the website they have some examples of custom warbands as well as the official ones.

http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php/articles/gaming

**BlueDagger**

The thing that kills me on this one is there is no $10 you get a PDF with the cards you can print out yourself option. I don't care for getting the minis and I don't want to spend $45 on the hardback that I may or may not ever use.

**choasdwarflord**

Giving away creeps on the webpage. check it out!

http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/

Also the kickstarter

**Grot 6**

Biggest issue I am having is the scope of KS packages I want to fund, VS realistic funds to do it with.

I can always drop a few here and there, but some of these that are currently underway are getting out of my projected ranges, vs the deals that they are.

Between this one, Relic, and a few others, I'm getting ready to drop a few hundred, and as much as I want to, it is going to come down to Time/ Money values. Especially when I am getting into aa few of these other games, that I've got into, even before dropping in the other clank for the new ones.

As to the minis, this is a very good deal, as well. Especially for the range of numbers your looking at here.

Kickstarter for my Kickstarters.......

**brettz123**

frozenwastes wrote:
I'm really not sure what I think of the alt-fantasy approach. It's neat that it's not your standard fantasy fare, but I'm kind of tired of figure ranges with game rules that have limited usefully ness if they're not bundled together. I don't yet know enough about Fanticide.

Is there warband rules for typical fantasy miniatures? A warband building system perhaps? Something to support my existing collection?

At first I was surprised I had not seen anything about this before. Then I scrolled down and saw that the miniatures were very setting specific. This is one of those things that makes a lot less people likely to dive into a new system. Hopefully they reach their goal though. It is always good to see smaller companies running succesful kickstarter campaigns.

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Piston Honda wrote:
Zweischneid wrote:
Piston Honda wrote:
I don't have an issue with kickstarter, but I have to wonder if people who start them stop to think for a minute if the are launching their kickstarter a bit to soon or close to other kickstarters which may abate some of the pledges.

I think you overestimate the relevance of other Kickstarters. They are no more a competition as other games on the shelf-space in a local store are (or used to be).

And as it look atm, there'll be permanently games on Kickstarter from here on out.. at least for a year or so.

Also, where there is competition, there is usually money. That's where you want to be.

But the difference between Kickstarter and having a game on a shelf is that kickstarter is a limited time. A company has so much time to get as many pledges as possible within a small window of time.

Having a starter set/Rule book on the shelves is a different matter.

If I were start a kickstarter I would want to make sure I was not doing at the tail end of multiple large projects where there could be potential backer who already spent their hobby bucks. It's not that they could not buy the game at a later date (having a game already on the shelf), it's that kickstarter is a time sensitive issue.

As someone who is running a kickstarter right now I can tell you did think about BUT I ended up launching anyway because I don't know when there will be a time again without a serious / large company running a kickstarter. Its a sort of damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. Should I wait another three months or six months to launch on the hopes that coolmini will not have another kickstarter?

**BladeWalker**

I'm surprised the names that are working on this. It's a huge put off for me having Fanticide as a name as well as the Homicidal and other tags. I may love the grimdark of 40k but some of the newer games are pushing the insanity and depravity angle a bit too much imho. Too many games and miniature companies are adding things to make them "edgy" and ending up only seeming juvenile or offensive. Not backing this one, but loving the kickstarter updates on dakka thanks!

**Zweischneid**

BladeWalker wrote:
I'm surprised the names that are working on this. It's a huge put off for me having Fanticide as a name as well as the Homicidal and other tags. I may love the grimdark of 40k but some of the newer games are pushing the insanity and depravity angle a bit too much imho. Too many games and miniature companies are adding things to make them "edgy" and ending up only seeming juvenile or offensive. Not backing this one, but loving the kickstarter updates on dakka thanks!

It's kinda doubly odd with this game.

Having, on one end, a game system that includes mechanics for "make a warband from whatever miniatures you have", written by some of the most recognizable game-designer-names in the industry (even if only as consultants).

On the other hand, a thoroughly niche-game, which seems to go far beyond the miniatures, but right into the game-play (e.g. loony event-cards) and a "parental advisory" rule-book that doesn't seem to want to get broad use or enable "generic" play that much.

I almost wish they would consider gutting the rules from the Fanticide-branding and add them to a more generic "generic" setting that plays to the strengths of "use whatever minis you like"-angle (naming the world "nowhere", as they did, actually would go down well with this "generic" concept).

**judgedoug**

Just wanted to add in here that they've now thrown in a bunch of free stuff -

2 miniatures from each Faction if you buy the Slasher level ($45) or above,

an extra pack of figures if you buy the Clubber level ($80) or above.

I'm personally in for the $80 clubber level since it's a good discount over retail, the minis are really cool looking, and now there's some extra figures thrown in for free.

**choasdwarflord**

4They have added a bunch of add-ons as well to bring forces to 750 points as well as individual blisters. Good times. Check it all out

**NAVARRO**

The minis are a big let down IMO, the painting is meh, presentation not that good etc KS's need to be visually appealing and this is not in any level.

**judgedoug**

NAVARRO wrote:
The minis are a big let down IMO, the painting is meh, presentation not that good etc KS's need to be visually appealing and this is not in any level.

Agree about the presentation, but man, I'm in love with the Flying Monkeys and the Creeps.

I especially love the flying monkey on carpet that's throwing dung.

**lord_blackfang**

This all looks like 80s game/mini design, in a bad way.

**judgedoug**

lord_blackfang wrote:
This all looks like 80s game/mini design, in a bad way.

which 80's game and minis?

**choasdwarflord**

Bazinga. The Initial Funding Goal has been met. Lets get some stretch goals!!!!

**frozenwastes**

This is the type of project that might have gotten a $10 PDF pledge from me. But no electronic option means I can't really check it out unless I want to pay $57.

I've noticed an aversion to e-publishing from all the ex-GW folks. Warlord Games doesn't bother with electronic versions of any of their games. Mantic is an exception though, as they've always had free PDFs and now also sell PDFs of their finished copies.

I know it's hard for game designers to really get a grip on electronic publishing after having a lengthly stint at a company like GW that is just figuring out that the internet exists, but we live in a world of ereaders, tablets and laptops now.

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**choasdwarflord**

New Interview Video up with Ernie Baker about Fanticide and answers some of the questions raised here. Check it out!

http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php/videos

**Shrapnelsmile**

cincydooley wrote:
So....1985 called. They want their miniatures back.

Tell 1985 to give me a ring then. I want them back too. I love the style of what I'm seeing in Fanticide and the Otherworld company as well.

**Zweischneid**

choasdwarflord wrote:
New Interview Video up with Ernie Baker about Fanticide and answers some of the questions raised here. Check it out!

http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php/videos

Cool Interview. Thanks!

**Azazelx**

frozenwastes wrote:
This is the type of project that might have gotten a $10 PDF pledge from me. But no electronic option means I can't really check it out unless I want to pay $57.
I've noticed an aversion to e-publishing from all the ex-GW folks. Warlord Games doesn't bother with electronic versions of any of their games. Mantic is an exception though, as they've always had free PDFs and now also sell PDFs of their finished copies.

I know it's hard for game designers to really get a grip on electronic publishing after having a lengthly stint at a company like GW that is just figuring out that the internet exists, but we live in a world of ereaders, tablets and laptops now.
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Those guys were American, and not the designers, who it appears wrote this ruleset as a work-for-hire gig.

**JHall**

The video interview is with Ernie Baker (the owner of Alien Dungeon and one of the designers as well). Ernie worked on the background and rules along with Rick, Alessio, and Andy. It was a true collaborative effort.

I am also in the video, though seeing my ugly mug isn't what anyone is excited about for sure :-)