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whoadirty wrote:
We should start to see leaked WD pages any day now, shouldn't we?

What about Warriors of Chaos? I thought that they were getting a minor release before 40K... Or am I so out of the loop that I missed a something?

C6

 catharsix wrote:

whoadirty wrote:
We should start to see leaked WD pages any day now, shouldn't we?

What about Warriors of Chaos? I thought that they were getting a minor release before 40K... Or am I so out of the loop that I missed a something?

C6

It's all very up in the air right now, and people aren't ruling out the idea of GW doing two releases in one month. I honestly don't think they will, but we'll know soon I guess.

I wouldn't think it's too unlikely.

I mean, they did basically rerelease all of Lord of the Rings not too long ago.

 catharsix wrote:

whoadirty wrote:
We should start to see leaked WD pages any day now, shouldn't we?

What about Warriors of Chaos? I thought that they were getting a minor release before 40K... Or am I so out of the loop that I missed a something?

C6

One of the rumours has been WoC will be a WD update in addition to a DA codex release. Doesn't seem too out there, they could release 2-3 new kits for WoC, and a similar amount for DA. GW only needs to cover the new codex entries for DA, and can release a DW kit later.

I just can't wait to get the new codex and plasma spam all over the board. Everyone in my city is playing termi armor spam right now, and I want to laugh mallevolent.

DakotaBlue wrote:
I just can't wait to get the new codex and plasma spam all over the board. Everyone in my city is playing termi armor spam right now, and I want to laugh mallevolent.

Lock and Load, brother!

 Yojiro wrote:

DakotaBlue wrote:
I just can't wait to get the new codex and plasma spam all over the board. Everyone in my city is playing termi armor spam right now, and I want to laugh mallevolent.

Lock and Load, brother!

With this in mind, I don't want it to become Codex: Plasma Marines.

I'm not super stoked about Ward writing the codex as I have always been a more "rule of cool" gamer as opposed to competitive. But that's not to say that I won't enjoy a powerful codex. I just don't want it to be a game-breaking cheesy dex that everyone hates me for playing. Above all I want the fluff to be expanded in a good direction. I don't want it rewritten. I want it to be expanded and added to...not that hard but Mr. Ward could potential muck it up -.-

In addition, I will hate for being seen as a bandwagoner if the dex is good. I have played Dark Angels since 3.5 and always will probably. If it's cheese, it is my well-deserved cheese. If it is like CSM then w/e at least it's not a broken dex and I will still enjoy it. *fingers crossed*

-VardenV2

Well, I guess I can put the DA models that came in the starter set as allies to my chaos when this new book comes out. I can call them Fallen DA.

 VardenV2 wrote:

 Yojiro wrote:

DakotaBlue wrote:
I just can't wait to get the new codex and plasma spam all over the board. Everyone in my city is playing termi armor spam right now, and I want to laugh mallevolent.

Lock and Load, brother!

With this in mind, I don't want it to become Codex: Plasma Marines.

I'm not super stoked about Ward writing the codex as I have always been a more "rule of cool" gamer as opposed to competitive. But that's not to say that I won't enjoy a powerful codex. I just don't want it to be a game-breaking cheesy dex that everyone hates me for playing. Above all I want the fluff to be expanded in a good direction. I don't want it rewritten. I want it to be expanded and added to...not that hard but Mr. Ward could potential muck it up -.-

In addition, I will hate for being seen as a bandwagoner if the dex is good. I have played Dark Angels since 3.5 and always will probably. If it's cheese, it is my well-deserved cheese. If it is like CSM then w/e at least it's not a broken dex and I will still enjoy it. *fingers crossed*

-VardenV2

I know the feeling. I'm going to blow the dust off my DeathWing models, field them, then promptly get called cheesy most likely.

 ShatteredBlade wrote:

 VardenV2 wrote:

 Yojiro wrote:

DakotaBlue wrote:
I just can't wait to get the new codex and plasma spam all over the board. Everyone in my city is playing termi armor spam right now, and I want to laugh mallevolent.

Lock and Load, brother!

With this in mind, I don't want it to become Codex: Plasma Marines.

I'm not super stoked about Ward writing the codex as I have always been a more "rule of cool" gamer as opposed to competitive. But that's not to say that I won't enjoy a powerful codex. I just don't want it to be a game-breaking cheesy dex that everyone hates me for playing. Above all I want the fluff to be expanded in a good direction. I don't want it rewritten. I want it to be expanded and added to...not that hard but Mr. Ward could potential muck it up -.-

In addition, I will hate for being seen as a bandwagoner if the dex is good. I have played Dark Angels since 3.5 and always will probably. If it's cheese, it is my well-deserved cheese. If it is like CSM then w/e at least it's not a broken dex and I will still enjoy it. *fingers crossed*

-VardenV2

I know the feeling. I'm going to blow the dust off my DeathWing models, field them, then promptly get called cheesy most likely.

I have a slight advantage in that arena...
My 3k of Angels of Absolution are 2nd ed models... So, if anyone wants to cry about it... I am NOT hoppin' on tha bandwardgon...
Still, if they are cheesy... I'll prolly just play them a few times, and then return them to the shelf.

Oh goodey Matt Ward. I can't wait to see what kind of shenanigans they're gonna pull off. In b4 Ezekiel puts Slaanesh in a headlock.

 Harriticus wrote:
Oh goodey Matt Ward. I can't wait to see what kind of shenanigans they're gonna pull off. In b4 Ezekiel puts Slaanesh in a headlock.

I'd lol. Ezekiel is basically the most useless character to ever exist. A regular librarian is just as good/better because he is cheaper... plus DA powers are pretty crap. Good thing they can take all those Divination powers. Potentially cover ignoring re-rollable plasma spam with bikes... yeah... good night sweet everything.

-VardenV2

 VardenV2 wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
Oh goodey Matt Ward. I can't wait to see what kind of shenanigans they're gonna pull off. In b4 Ezekiel puts Slaanesh in a headlock.

I'd lol. Ezekiel is basically the most useless character to ever exist. A regular librarian is just as good/better because he is cheaper... plus DA powers are pretty crap. Good thing they can take all those Divination powers. Potentially cover ignoring re-rollable plasma spam with bikes... yeah... good night sweet everything.

-VardenV2

Have you compared Ezekiel to a regular Librarian lately? He's got more wounds, a mastercrafted force weapon, artificer armor to let him laugh at all the AP3 power swords out there, makes nearby units Fearless, and isn't saddled with being an Ld9 psyker. Ezekiel is actually pretty solid for what he does. Load him up with Biomancy powers and let him run wild and you'll be pleased with the results.

Don't forget his master crafted bolt pistol, that's gold Jerry, gold!

The Aegis over at Warseer wrote:At the Italian Games Day Phil Kelly said that every chapter of space marines is going to have one or more unique unit (like thunderwolf cavalry or sanguinary guard) that differentiate it from other chapters. I don't know if that include codex chapters (like imperial fists or salamanders) or if there will be one for all vanilla chapters and one or more for chapter with their own codex, but it still interesting (New DA special unit?).

Anyway, he also said that SM and BT codex are both far away in the future, so I wouldn't expect them soon.

I've been playing Dark Angels for over two years now. To have Ward rewrite the "hard mode" Space Marine codex into probably the next "OMGWTF its sooooo overpowered" codex will be a nice change. I'll just cut the fluff section out and replace it with the old ones...

Now please, let's keep this thread to actual rumors and not yet another Ward-whine...

So I was talking to one of my local GW workers and he kind of hinted that the Dark Angels may not be released until the March/April 2013 timeframe. Anyone else hearing anything since it seems that nothing is happening this year

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
I've been playing Dark Angels for over two years now. To have Ward rewrite the "hard mode" Space Marine codex into probably the next "OMGWTF its sooooo overpowered" codex will be a nice change. I'll just cut the fluff section out and replace it with the old ones...

Now please, let's keep this thread to actual rumors and not yet another Ward-whine...

Yeah man it must be so hard having the ability to take Terminator troops with the ability to spam cyclone missile launchers and storm shields. I'll grant you hard mode for everything else though.

 Absolon wrote:
So I was talking to one of my local GW workers and he kind of hinted that the Dark Angels may not be released until the March/April 2013 timeframe. Anyone else hearing anything since it seems that nothing is happening this year

The world has gone to hell in a hand basket, they better not make us that long - I will judo chop someone out of rage and impatience...

I very much doubt it'll be spring, not after putting DA in the starter set.

It looks like the release has already slid into 2013, so who knows

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
I've been playing Dark Angels for over two years now. To have Ward rewrite the "hard mode" Space Marine codex into probably the next "OMGWTF its sooooo overpowered" codex will be a nice change. I'll just cut the fluff section out and replace it with the old ones...

Now please, let's keep this thread to actual rumors and not yet another Ward-whine...

Yeah man it must be so hard having the ability to take Terminator troops with the ability to spam cyclone missile launchers and storm shields. I'll grant you hard mode for everything else though.

Its hard to call it spam when you only get 5 at a time. At least fearless doesn't grind them away anymore...

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
I've been playing Dark Angels for over two years now. To have Ward rewrite the "hard mode" Space Marine codex into probably the next "OMGWTF its sooooo overpowered" codex will be a nice change. I'll just cut the fluff section out and replace it with the old ones...

Now please, let's keep this thread to actual rumors and not yet another Ward-whine...

Yeah man it must be so hard having the ability to take Terminator troops with the ability to spam cyclone missile launchers and storm shields. I'll grant you hard mode for everything else though.

Its hard to call it spam when you only get 5 at a time. At least fearless doesn't grind them away anymore...

You've still got 6 troop slots. And yeah at least they don't need to worry about melee with stormshields anymore either.

I am going to laugh so hard when this Ward marine facemelter hits the shelves and the "new balanced direction" exemplified by the new weaksauce CSM codex folks have been touting lasts all of 1 codex release. I predict DA psychic powers will make Tzeentch want to headbutt my dog until they both scream.

Also looking forward to the Secret Fists.

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

You've still got 6 troop slots. And yeah at least they don't need to worry about melee with stormshields anymore either.

They're also going for about 250 points per troop slot. Deathwing are solid, but there's nothing else the codex does that other Codices don't do better.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

You've still got 6 troop slots. And yeah at least they don't need to worry about melee with stormshields anymore either.

They're also going for about 250 points per troop slot. Deathwing are solid, but there's nothing else the codex does that other Codices don't do better.

Except for mixed weaponry and Fearless, Deathwingers are just terminators. But, unlike Grey Knights, we still require a character to unlock them as troops. And, unlike every other Marines codex, our Land Raiders are still stuck exclusively in the Heavy Support slot.

 Absolon wrote:
It looks like the release has already slid into 2013, so who knows

They could still slip them in late November or early December.

My guess GW has contractually agreed to only release Hobbit stuff in Dec. That would leave a Nov release with no tease or WD support, and I just don't see that happening.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

You've still got 6 troop slots. And yeah at least they don't need to worry about melee with stormshields anymore either.

They're also going for about 250 points per troop slot. Deathwing are solid, but there's nothing else the codex does that other Codices don't do better.

Except for mixed weaponry and Fearless, Deathwingers are just terminators. But, unlike Grey Knights, we still require a character to unlock them as troops. And, unlike every other Marines codex, our Land Raiders are still stuck exclusively in the Heavy Support slot.

Said character is pretty inexpensive and the fact that he gives you access to FNP for one squad (for an additional cost but not huge) and can have a TH/SS for free is pretty good.

Anyway I'm not denying that you guys are working with an older codex but honestly you guys made it out of 6th not only relatively unscathed but in some ways even stronger, whereas a great many of other armies got weaker due to power weapon nerfs or cover save reductions.

I'm just looking forward to my friend who is playing Dark Angels with his new Ward "facemelter" codex (props to Abadabadoobaddon) against my "balanced" Chaos codex.

Someone was saying that at the GD the developers were talking about doing books in sets, so that they were play tested against each other for balance purposes. Something like in a set of three.

If so that should help with a lot of the power creep issues that plagued parts of 5th edition.