Dark Angels Rumors thread: Update 11/25

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**H.B.M.C.**

-Sammael still rides the Imperium's only functioning jetbike.

Yeah, that just gets more and more daft every time I read it.

"The Dark Angels and their successors hold the only working examples of ancient Jetbike technology. They alone know how to maintain their limited quantity and, like all their secrets, are loathe to share them with anyone else..." seems far more reasonable than "Sammael has the last one ever. EVER EVER! So it gets borked then he can't get another one. Ever. EVER EVER!"

Kanluwen wrote:
We don't actually know what the Watchers in the Dark are.

Space Hobbits!

**jah-joshua**

except, i remember Watchers in the first HH novel for the DA's...
they should be some kind of Warp creature though, as Caliban seemed to be a very tainted world...

i'm looking forward to seeing what they do with this Codex...
i like the way BA's went more assualt, and got a few cool new toys...
it will be interesting to see the DA's new toys...

cheers
jah

**fursphere**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
-Sammael still rides the Imperium's only functioning jetbike.

Yeah, that just gets more and more daft every time I read it.

"The Dark Angels and their successors hold the only working examples of ancient Jetbike technology. They alone know how to maintain their limited quantity and, like all their secrets, are loathe to share them with anyone else..." seems far more reasonable than "Sammael has the last one ever. EVER EVER! So it gets borked then he can't get another one. Ever. EVER EVER!"

At least its not a deep striking land raider..... /sigh

**Kroothawk**

Kroothawk wrote:
Faeit212 wrote:via the Faeit 212 inbox (anonmyous as I have no permission to use the sources name)
the next WD is Hobbit releases and the WD after will feature Dark Angels.
DA codex will be after Christmas though.

wyomingfox wrote:
pretre wrote:
They don't say which one was which... That's annoying. I imagine the rules part was Stick.

You are correct
11-17-12: Faeit 212

naftka wrote:via the Faeit 212 inbox (anonmyous as I have no permission to use the sources name)
the next WD is hobbit releases and the WD after will feature Dark Angels.
DA codex will be after Christmas though.

Nice find

Oh, and:

75hastings69 wrote:Don't know quite why I'm getting misquoted across the interwebz I've been saying for MONTHS (not cryptically either) that DA would be up for preorder in Dec and Daemons release in Feb???? Must not be straightforward enough for some!

That release order I posted still stands BTW

Saving up for deamons in February. Hope blight drones make it in.

Not blight drones but similar, I can see 40k players using the FW blight drones instead of the big nurgle flies ridden by plagubearers that are getting released.

**Kanluwen**

That doesn't work since they were present before the Fall.

**H.B.M.C.**

fursphere wrote:
At least its not a deep striking land raider..... /sigh

Don’t count your chickens yet. Ward is apparently writing this one as well. We could still get Deep Striking “Dark Predators” with “Dark Plasma Cannons”.

**Billagio**

So if the jan WD if going to be DA, does that mean that the codex is slated for jan as well? or Feb?

**Kroothawk**

Billagio wrote:
So if the jan WD if going to be DA, does that mean that the codex is slated for jan as well? or Feb?

Have a look at the White Dwarfs of the last 20 years and make a daring guess

**Robbietobbie**

December pre-orders would be good. Might even have some money left after all those damn christmas presents

**KaryudoDS**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
We could still get Deep Striking “Dark Predators” with “Dark Plasma Cannons”.

Which spawn 1D6 Dark Deathwing Terminators when they Dark Deep Strike.

At this point I'll just be happy if the book is at least an upgrade but if there must be cheese...well then there must be cheese. Pepper Jack. Will probably make my SM friend's army sad though, can already beat him with half his book with some planning.

**Mathieu Raymond**

ShatteredBlade wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
We don't actually know what the Watchers in the Dark are.

They could be aliens, they could be abhumans, they could be manifestations of a Warp entity.

so my guess is that they'll end up being warp manifestations of the guilt hanging over the Dark Angels.

And when you're doing nasty things to yourself in the dark, they're always watching!

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Honestly, I'd be happy just to be able to have an odd number of marines in my squads. Just that would be fantastic. Maybe bring some weapon prices in line with the vanilla dex, give my dreadnoughts options to make a mortis too.

**Compel**

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Space Hobbits!

Guard have them already!

**H.B.M.C.**

Space Gnomes?

**whoadirty**

The Watcher in the Dark were around before the Heresy? Too bad, it would be cool if they were like the gnome-like creatures in Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant. Except, you know, them being the Fallen.

**SoloFalcon1138**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Space Gnomes?

Phase 1: collect Dark Angels Artifacts

Phase 2: ????

Phase 3: profit

**Kroothawk**

BramGaunt wrote:On a sidenote: Despite my sources said nothing on the specifics about the january release, they did say that, due to new year, january release could be one week later then the regular schedule. I have the january White Dwarf for release on the 5th of january. The same thing happened this year, iirc.

**DakotaBlue**

I guess they'll be hobbits, and will match the release of the hobbit & the codex in december.

**Kroothawk**

... but Hobbits with a dark secret

**VardenV2**

I imagine the Watchers to be sort of like the Keepers in mass Effect, if any of you have played that. They are just sort of there and take care of things. And everyone is like, "Well, ok it makes our life simpler I guess..."

I think that they probably are some sort of warp entity that protects Caliban (what's left of it) and maybe even had something to do with Lion's success before the Spess Emprah arrived. They are dark and mysterious, as they should be...

-VardenV2

**Skipphag da Devoura**

The problem with claiming that they are Warp entities is found in Codex: Dark Angels 3rd... The Watchers in the Dark are semi-unique in that they are immune to effects of the Warp... Like the Pariah of Codex: Necrons of yore...

**BrassScorpion**

What are the Watchers In The Dark? As one friend of mine said, now we know what happened to the Squats.

**SoloFalcon1138**

They are supposed to be mysterious sub-humans that were indiginous to Caliban, and now reside in the Rock.

They are not Squats.

**BrassScorpion**

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
They are supposed to be mysterious sub-humans that were indiginous to Caliban, and now reside in the Rock.

They are not Squats.

Someone got out on the wrong side of their Drop Pod and left their sense of humor behind. Wow, Dark Angels really are grim and humorless fanatical killing machines, joy killing machines that is! Thanks folks, I'm here all week.

**captain collius**

ShatteredBlade wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
We don't actually know what the Watchers in the Dark are.

They could be aliens, they could be abhumans, they could be manifestations of a Warp entity.

so my guess is that they'll end up being warp manifestations of the guilt hanging over the Dark Angels.

Read the HH Fallen Angels watchers existed before the Emperor found Caliban.

IN other news YEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH my codex is on the way!

Also it sound like we will be very diverse with a lot of different choices here is hoping it works.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I'll go for the watchers being a psycic manefestation of all the psykers that are killed to fuel the golden throne (& yes I know they were around while the emperor was healthy, but time has no meaning in the warp)

They serve the Dark Angels for now, but in the end will make them into their instruments of revenge on the Imperium that took their lives

**ShatteredBlade**

captain collius wrote:
ShatteredBlade wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
We don't actually know what the Watchers in the Dark are.

They could be aliens, they could be abhumans, they could be manifestations of a Warp entity.

so my guess is that they'll end up being warp manifestations of the guilt hanging over the Dark Angels.

Read the HH Fallen Angels watchers existed before the Emperor found Caliban.

IN other news YEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH my codex is on the way!

Also it sound like we will be very diverse with a lot of different choices here is hoping it works.

Yes, they were pre heresy. But with the..uhm..author of the coming book who knows?

**BrassScorpion**

From blog.spikeybits.com/2012/11/angels-of-vengeance-coming-2013.html

Angels of Vengeance- Coming 2013?
Posted by Man Boy Genius Tuesday, November 20, 2012
More rumors were swirling recently about a possible White Dwarf delay because of apparently Hurricane Sandy? Personally I don't know what that is about, but I do know I love me some Dark Angels so lets get to it!

Now would perhaps be a good time to pick up some of the Dark Vengeance Dark Angel models BEFORE everyone else wants them and their prices go though the roof!

Oh and Faeit also reports December's White Dwarf (when it comes) will be a DOUBLE sized feature event. Excited?

From Faeit 212
Here is a little snippet sent in to me which gives us a timeline for an exciting end the year, first of 2013 codex release for 40k. Accordingly Dark Angels will probably be released for pre-order before December is done, and up hitting the shelves January 5th.

That would be a great way to start off the new year.

via the Faeit 212 inbox (anonmyous as I have no permission to use the sources name)
the next WD is hobbit releases and the WD after will feature Dark Angels.
DA codex will be after Christmas though.

**Kroothawk**

Spikeybits made an acceptable summary of what is written in this thread

**Ralis**

I still think it would be kinda cool, if you could add a few Watchers to a group, to act kinda like Tau Drones.

**Skipphag da Devoura**

Don't say that!!!! Now it's gonna happen...

And then, that will just add to the whole "We LOVE the Tau" Imperium...

And that would make me a sad panda...