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2012/09/03 14:25:31
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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140k Breached
Two Sets of Hex Sprues instead of 1 in striker now.
Means I only have to put in an extra $8 to my pledge
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2012/09/03 14:26:04
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Just got my update: they included two packs of bases in "Striker," instead of just one. Means 44 bases added into striker.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/03 14:27:48
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2012/09/03 14:58:21
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Woot! I feel like we've been listened to!
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Red Hunters: 2000 points Grey Knights: 2000 points Black Legion: 600 points and counting |
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2012/09/03 15:13:43
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Yeah, I hear Mantic is pretty good at that. Lol. Crap...I REALLY want it to be December right now....after reaching at least $250,000 and getting 8 MVPs total added to striker, at least 2 more purchasable teams with 2 models from each team free in the Striker set, a further set of hex bases...I feel like that's a good start.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2012/09/03 15:26:30
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Oh, this has a *lot* further to go yet.
They've gone with a longer-running KS this time, the KoW one was only a quick 28-day job.
This one has 27 days left, it's only just getting started and there's already $232 of stuff at the $150 pledge level. (35% discount!). That'll be $262 and 40% discount after the next 3 MVPs are unlocked, and then things start to get really interesting...
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2012/09/03 15:38:52
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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scarletsquig wrote:Oh, this has a *lot* further to go yet.
They've gone with a longer-running KS this time, the KoW one was only a quick 28-day job.
This one has 27 days left, it's only just getting started and there's already $232 of stuff at the $150 pledge level. (35% discount!). That'll be $262 and 40% discount after the next 3 MVPs are unlocked, and then things start to get really interesting...
Do you have inside knowledge? Spill!! Pledges can only go up if we know the next set of goodies after the MVPs!!
Rhetorical question-I KNOW you have inside knowledge Squiggy.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2012/09/03 15:56:07
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This is the first KS I've been involved in.
Just looked on Kicktraq to look at other successful projects following a similar pattern; and I'm going to agree with scarletsquig.
There becomes a point when the value for money against what you pledge becomes too great a value to ignore and you get an upwards trend of pledges towards the final day with a final mad rush on the last day.
I don't see any reason why this shouldn't follow a similar pattern.
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2012/09/03 16:08:56
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Amusingly, I don't actually have any inside knowledge other than what appears in the book. I'm fairly certain I know what the remaining MVP is (other than Buzzcut who has already been shown on the website), but that's the full extent of my super-sekrits - after that I'll be in the same position as everyone else... pretty much every aspect of the rules has been posted online by Jake Thornton already too.
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2012/09/03 16:17:16
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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I bet if we all buy tickets to the UK we can beat Squiggy with socks full of oranges until he spills who the other MVP will be.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2012/09/03 16:38:51
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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scarletsquig wrote:Amusingly, I don't actually have any inside knowledge other than what appears in the book. I'm fairly certain I know what the remaining MVP is (other than Buzzcut who has already been shown on the website), but that's the full extent of my super-sekrits - after that I'll be in the same position as everyone else... pretty much every aspect of the rules has been posted online by Jake Thornton already too.
Is it Rico van Dien? I've seen his high school playing footage, and he's amazing. Would you like to know more?
I'm glad to hear about the background, Scarlet. It reminds me a lot of old Super Nintendo sports games. Just one more question: how is the sport played? I don't mean game mechanics or dice rolls and stats, but more like a description of what a spectator would be watching. "The Fullback attempts to dribble into the red zone, for the immediate loading and unloading of bases, where he can pass to the strikers or seekers, who seek to shoot a basket pass the bludgers for maximum blerns"..? Right now, I have no idea what the teams are supposed to be doing, and the game comes across as "Paul Verhoeven presents Calvinball."
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2012/09/03 16:45:30
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Basically, the aim is to get the ball into one of the 3 goals to score points. Once that happens, the ball immediately re-enters play by being shot out into the centre of the pitch.
Strikers are scoring specialists.
Guards attempt to beat up the strikers and stop them from scoring.
Jacks can do a bit of both.
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2012/09/03 22:15:45
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Nah, Female MVP, Dizzy Gonabytit Automatically Appended Next Post: DreadBall Development Blog is worthing checking out if you want an insight into the game mechanics.
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2012/09/03 23:59:09
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I do not find the Dreadball website reassuring. The only missing MVP is the lone woman, and the only time they even use the word "she" is when referring to a male elf.
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"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
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2012/09/04 00:49:47
Subject: Re:Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Been Around the Block
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Putting together some Grim Cargo Corp figures has just reminded me how much I hate Mantic's base 'strategy'. I bet 90%+ of mantic's customers want to put their minis on a standard 20/5mm base so why not just give the models a peg/slotta-tab/flat-ish feet? Especially as for the few people that do want a custom base any of the above are easier to work with than removing a 15mm circle!! Plus it means you get boring limited poses and the models look stranded in the middle of a 25mm base - the corp are particularly bad for this, but it's potentially worse for Dreadball as these are meant to be athletes playing a dynamic sport!
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2012/09/04 11:21:42
Subject: Re:Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looks like Mantic is looking for fan-input for a (potential) robo-team via Twitter (and Kickstarter obviously).
https://twitter.com/manticgames/status/242941358585823232
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2012/09/04 12:57:22
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I do not find the Dreadball website reassuring. The only missing MVP is the lone woman,
Dunno about that, the black out image on the Striker! image still hasn't been revealed, so I think there could be at least one more that's not been revealed. and we know Wildcard is not in the rulebook yet (though is getting rules)
i find it funny everyone says 'do something different" and they ask for input and everyone comes back with "make it look like like real steel/terminator etc"
Surprised no-one said Geth...
anyway, hopefully we'll get number 88 soon.
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2012/09/04 13:12:54
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Pious Warrior Priest
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I really like the design/ artwork of the board as it is, grey steel effect would have been boring... glowing TRON hexes are much more sci-fi.
Plus, there's all kinds of cool ideas people now have for making custom under-lit boards to match the style of the board art with LEDs and all sorts.
Someone posted in the KS comments about doing a clear layer of plastic and then gluing opaque hexes on top, with a lightbox underneath to create an illuminated board.
Others are thinking of a "pumpkin-carving" approach where the playing surface is completely flat, and the lines of the pitch are determined by a combination of cutting the underside and putting the light underneath... this is one thing that could be done if the acrylic pitch were even a little bit translucent (smokey grey).. just turn it upside down, add lighting underneath and voila! Underglow pitch, where the hex lines are picked out by light.
You could even modify the MDF board into doing this, if you get a strong enough light underneath, some of the glow will go through the material.
Even something like screen printing black hexes on to a clear plastic surface could do the trick and look great.
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2012/09/04 13:34:26
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Zealous Knight
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scarletsquig wrote:You could even modify the MDF board into doing this, if you get a strong enough light underneath, some of the glow will go through the material.
I'd watch out with that - MDF has a nasty tendency of catching on fire when subjected to the heat that would likely generate (depending on light source, of course) as well. Even if it doesn't do that, wood warps when subjected to significantly more heat on one side than on the other...
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2012/09/04 13:54:49
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bristol
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I'd watch out with that - MDF has a nasty tendency of catching on fire when subjected to the heat that would likely generate (depending on light source, of course) as well. Even if it doesn't do that, wood warps when subjected to significantly more heat on one side than on the other...
Yeah, and no-one wants their wood warped.
Sorry...
grey steel effect would have been boring... glowing TRON hexes are much more sci-fi.
Agreed, besides, just spray an MDF board grey and you're away. This isn't exactly hard to replicate:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/jan08/speedball2o.jpg
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2012/09/04 14:05:43
Subject: Re:Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Gargantuan Gargant
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I'm operating under the assumption that the lines on the arcylic board are etched in.
While etching on acrylic gaming supplies is usually pretty shallow, it's often more than enough to hold a decent amount paint, making any etched details very noticeable. I'm routing for the red and blue areas to be translucent, but opaque black could be given a "glow" paint job like people often do on necron vehicles/terrain.
About MDF warping and burning with heat, the simple solution is to use LEDs. The generate ample light and negligible heat. I have a Blood bowl arena with 2 strings of battery operated red led Christmas lights giving it an awesome under glow.
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2012/09/04 14:32:43
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm sure I'll likely jump into this by the end but for now whats holding me off is the teams. There just isnt a team that interests me enough to play this game. As it is now I just wouldnt want to play humans, orcs, skaven, or drawfs
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DT:80S+++G+++M+B++I+Pw40k00+D++A(WTF)/areWD100R+++++T(T)DM+ |
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2012/09/04 14:47:09
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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We'll Mantic are calling for ideas on Robots, so they may be on the cards along with a female corporation team
either of them appeal?
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2012/09/04 14:52:23
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The female team would have some appeal...the robots would depend on what the models look like, though sadly I dont have any idea what I'd like them to look like
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2012/09/04 15:36:28
Subject: Re:Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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This discussion is beginning to make me think of that sketch from the TV Show 'Little Britain', where the guy goes into a shop and asks for something extremely specific
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KpNBkjltc8
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2012/09/04 15:41:57
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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By Sunday September30th I should have recovered from the Sedition Wars Pledge Manager AND the Relic Knights Kickstarter... so I'll probably be in for Striker then.
At that point, this will probably be way too much of a good deal to pass up!
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2012/09/04 18:57:58
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Just going to throw in a pretty good link to a BGG review post about the game:
http://boardgamegeek.com/article/9972813#9972813
It has a *lot* of comparisons to bloodbowl there, mostly used a means of showing why the game is totally different in terms of rules via 20 short bullet points.
Might be of interest for people who want a straight-up BB comparison, since I'm not very knowledgeable about BB.
There might be some minor innaccuracy in there, though... the stated 11-max for teams is incorrect, it's 14-max.
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2012/09/04 19:07:02
Subject: Re:Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Fixture of Dakka
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This looks nice:
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2012/09/04 19:15:30
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This looks cool but dunno if I gonna be in for this one. Bloodbowl did kick ass but I already own it. Still waiting for Mantic to ship me my Undead army.
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2012/09/04 20:06:18
Subject: Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Female team models look pretty solid
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2012/09/04 20:10:05
Subject: Re:Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - $155k goal: "Number 88" MVP
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Alternate head C is the worst of them, but it's the one Mantic and their backers apparently like the most.
To repeat what I said earlier with a cross-post from what I just sent to Mantic:
Human teams should be the "face", to use the wrestling term: teams that Dreadball fans know and root for. A team of faceless mooks is a poor way of doing that. By contrast, any non-human team sponsored by a human Corporation would be a "heel" - the designated bad guy. They might emphasise their underhandedness, their inhumanity or their primitiveness, but there should be a not-so-subtle racism in the way the Corporations portray humanity and the species they exploit.
TLDR: if you're going to use megacorps as the shaping influence of your setting, at least give them credit for knowing how propaganda advertising works.
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"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
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