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Silly democrats forgetting to mention the Israeli overlords. You'd think it would be the other way around and all these other countries would be bowing down to the US so they don't get invaded.

Well I'm glad important business out of the way. Back to the regularly scheduled propaganda, which does sound great if only they'd follow through with it.

 whembly wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
Warren was very good, and Clinton's rockin' it now.

Warren was a Zzzzzzzzzzzfest ...

Clinton on the other hand can still bring it... yeah, he's rocking it.

Did you watch Fluke?

 Melissia wrote:

 whembly wrote:
uh.. what?

We stole Tejas?

Technically, we did.

I'm not passing judgement either way by saying this mind you. But yeah. We did.

Oh okay... so it was a conquest. Right on...

And we bought California for a bag of nickels (not really, but really cheap).


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 Mannahnin wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
Warren was very good, and Clinton's rockin' it now.

Warren was a Zzzzzzzzzzzfest ...

Clinton on the other hand can still bring it... yeah, he's rocking it.

Did you watch Fluke?

Ya... she was okay... nothing surprising there... but, an effective speech nonethanless.

Man Clinton is one heck of a politician.

 Jihadin wrote:
So how bad you think the amendment to add "God" and "Jerusalem" going to carry over. From what I understand there was a muslim contingent there not to happy about one.

Looked really bad...

The RNC/Fox/whomever is going to hammer that point.

I can see the future ads:

Why are Democrats so against voter ID when they didn't even listen to their own delegates?

Ah... American politics at it's best (or worst ).


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 AgeOfEgos wrote:
Man Clinton is one heck of a politician.

I don't like his politics...

But, he's gotta be one of the better politician we've ever had... he got stuff done, period.

Gotta give him mad props for that.

I wouldn't say it was a conquest so much as it was a "Mexico's government was too stupid to realize that one of the reasons so many people went to Tejas was due to the motivation of Manifest Destiny. That or they really didn't particularly care and underestimated how feisty, independent, and rebellious the immigrants were. Eventually they tried to clamp down, there was a civil war and Mexico lost, Texas didn't become a nation at first because of the slavery dilemma and so survived (sort of, the Texas national government was pretty incompetent for the most part), but was eventually accepted.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

The young Texas mayor whose keynote speech wowed the Democratic National Convention crowd Wednesday night draws political inspiration from his mother – who is a member of a radical civil rights movement and who reportedly thinks the truth behind the Battle of the Alamo is that Texans swiped Mexico’s land.

Maria del Rosario Castro, the mother of San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, said in 2010 that she grew up being told the battle was “glorious,” only to learn the so-called heroes were really “a bunch of drunks and crooks and slaveholding imperialists who conquered land that didn’t belong to them.”

“But as a little girl I got the message -- we were losers,” she told New York Times Magazine. “I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”

The Alamo, then a sprawling mission for missionaries and American Indian converts, was attacked in February 1836 by Mexican General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna. Though historical accounts vary, Texans, including famous frontiersman Davy Crockett, fought back for 13 days only to surrender, on March 6.

Might as well get Frazz all frazzled up.

typical San Antonio mayor. free men destroyed a dictator. Nuff said.

I thought a bunch of land-stealing guys hid in a church and got themselves killed

It's not the politicians we needs but the politicians we deserve

 AgeOfEgos wrote:
Man Clinton is one heck of a politician.

Bill Clinton is "The Dude".

 Melissia wrote:
I wouldn't say it was a conquest so much as it was a "Mexico's government was too stupid to realize that one of the reasons so many people went to Tejas was due to the motivation of Manifest Destiny. That or they really didn't particularly care and underestimated how feisty, independent, and rebellious the immigrants were. Eventually they tried to clamp down, there was a civil war and Mexico lost, Texas didn't become a nation at first because of the slavery dilemma and so survived (sort of, the Texas national government was pretty incompetent for the most part), but was eventually accepted.

Man I need to brush up on the history of the era... thanks!

I thought it was all Davey Crocket and Daniel Boone (not really... )

Grizzley Adams!!!!

Looked kind of like a gamer, didn't he?

 AgeOfEgos wrote:
Man Clinton is one heck of a politician.

He is in his zone tonight: Preaching.

Killing it.

 Mannahnin wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
Warren was very good, and Clinton's rockin' it now.

Warren was a Zzzzzzzzzzzfest ...

Clinton on the other hand can still bring it... yeah, he's rocking it.

Did you watch Fluke?

She wants government to pay for her birth control and sex change operations. her. Pay for it yourself you fething loser. You give real feminists who fought for equal rights a bad rash.

How's the economy doing again?

Talk that way to your daughter sometime when she grows up, then watch what happens.

Paying for birth control and condoms saves money and protects public health.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Talk that way to your daughter sometime when she grows up, then watch what happens.

$15-$20 (sometimes cheaper) is too much?

Folks claiming for help for BC pills seemed weird... there's an ulterior motive going on here.

Just saying...

Edit: have no problem with condoms... folks will boink like bunnies no matter what... but they're cheap too.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Talk that way to your daughter sometime when she grows up, then watch what happens.

Not a problem. Its easy to teach her to not be a crybaby loser turning her supposed university program into a speaking tour. She's a media/left wing media whore.

She's a person standing up for a cause, despite getting called names by big tough guys like you and Rush Limbaugh. Good company you find yourself in, there.

 Mannahnin wrote:
She's a person standing up for a cause, despite getting called names by big tough guys like you and Rush Limbaugh. Good company you find yourself in, there.

What cause? I'm rich so you should have to pay for my birth control? feth that. Get a job and pay for it yourself, loser.

Your view may differ. Hey its America, everybody's got a right to flap their gums. Pass the hot dogs, lets get a beer and talk away.
Beeeerrr.

 whembly wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
Talk that way to your daughter sometime when she grows up, then watch what happens.

$15-$20 (sometimes cheaper) is too much?

Folks claiming for help for BC pills seemed weird... there's an ulterior motive going on here.

Just saying...

Edit: have no problem with condoms... folks will boink like bunnies no matter what... but they're cheap too.

Did you have a lot of extra cash when you were in grad school?

How about you read her testimony and see if it makes any more sense?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/boxofficebuz/transcript-of-testimony-by-sandra-fluke-48z2

She could like, get a part time job like you know. She's at a rich man's school. Poor folks need not apply. Again cry me a river.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
She's a person standing up for a cause, despite getting called names by big tough guys like you and Rush Limbaugh. Good company you find yourself in, there.

What cause? I'm rich so you should have to pay for my birth control? feth that. Get a job and pay for it yourself, loser.

She's rich? I thought you called her a loser. Did you read her testimony? Did you have a lot of extra cash when you were in grad school? Seriously, if you think that she's a loser, I do not envy Connie the abuse she's no doubt in for later when she gets radical ideas like "women should have the right to make their own reproductive decisions", and you decide she's a loser too.

 Frazzled wrote:

What cause? I'm rich so you should have to pay for my birth control? feth that. Get a job and pay for it yourself, loser.

Do you really want to be deliberately inflammatory with some of the things you've told us all about your family medical history?

 Mannahnin wrote:

Spoiler:

 whembly wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
Talk that way to your daughter sometime when she grows up, then watch what happens.

$15-$20 (sometimes cheaper) is too much?

Folks claiming for help for BC pills seemed weird... there's an ulterior motive going on here.

Just saying...

Edit: have no problem with condoms... folks will boink like bunnies no matter what... but they're cheap too.

Did you have a lot of extra cash when you were in grad school?

How about you read her testimony and see if it makes any more sense?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/boxofficebuz/transcript-of-testimony-by-sandra-fluke-48z2

I read it... and yes, I could afford it in grad school (I still was dirt poor, like most students).

Look... I'll admit, I'm biased. I'm damn near deaf in both ears wearing the most powerful hearing aids one can find (yes, ma/pa bought them outright.. as in, not covered by insurance). I pay for the batteries every month about the same cost as the various BC pills. Not once have I thought that my insurance/government ought to pay for them. [ interestly, my insurance would cover cochlear implants. ]

Another reason I dislike Obamacare is that it TAXED all medical devices (ie, hearing aids). That's a pretty penny there Manny...

So... *shrugs*... that's why I think there's an ulterior motive here.

I think its, anyone who dares question anything on womens health, get pulled into this "women hater" debates (lemme tell ya, I love women )

 Mannahnin wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
She's a person standing up for a cause, despite getting called names by big tough guys like you and Rush Limbaugh. Good company you find yourself in, there.

What cause? I'm rich so you should have to pay for my birth control? feth that. Get a job and pay for it yourself, loser.

She's rich? I thought you called her a loser. Did you read her testimony? Did you have a lot of extra cash when you were in grad school? Seriously, if you think that she's a loser, I do not envy Connie the abuse she's no doubt in for later when she gets radical ideas like "women should have the right to make their own reproductive decisions", and you decide she's a loser too.

She's in a rich man's school. She's got the money. Its a smokescreen. She chose that school to fight over the issue.

And this has nothing to do with reproductive rights. She has the absolute right to do anything she wants. She just doesn't have the right to make me pay for it.
And why should have to pay for sex reassignment surgery? She's advocating government pay for that as well. feth that too.
Does she think she should have to pay for anything? Sweet Jesus get a job at Walmart and find out what real life is really like. Oh wait, she's spending her time on speaking engagements as the darling of the Democratic Party.

Meanwhile, manufacturing fell for the third straight month. Focus people Focus!

And leave my daughter out of the discussion lest the wiener legions come and "mine" your front yard with multiple biohazards. On the positive she just won a place to compete at the next school track meet. All will bow before her greatness. The Wife, a former triathlete, can't keep up with her and his to ride a bike to keep pace. Hurray!
*unfortunately TBone is not doing good. There is concern he has cancer. Waiting on tests. Frazzled very very sad.


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 dogma wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

What cause? I'm rich so you should have to pay for my birth control? feth that. Get a job and pay for it yourself, loser.

Do you really want to be deliberately inflammatory with some of the things you've told us all about your family medical history?

Yep. I'm hopped up on rum and popcorn. Lets ROCK!!!


(wo Frazzled needs to take his meds...)

Dang I do a battle in WoT and come back to this eruption....W...T...H

Sorry about T-Bone. I bring up Connie because I know we both have young women we love in our lives, and we want them to be able to take care of themselves.

Fluke having the money personally or not is beside the point; that's a distraction. Other women do not. Covering birth control is a really basic thing, it doesn't cost much, and it helps treat or avoid a lot of serious and more expensive things, like ovarian cysts, and endometriosis. That latter having come up in my own family.

And it's not just about us paying for it, it's about requiring insurance companies to do the right thing, including in policies people pay for themselves, without subsidy.

 Frazzled wrote:

She's in a rich man's school. She's got the money. Its a smokescreen. She chose that school to fight over the issue.

Or because its, you know, a top 20 law school.

And even if that is why she chose Georgetown, why does it matter? She presented evidence that suggested Georgetown's contraceptive provision causes financial hardship to students, her own status and motivations are irrelevant.

 dogma wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

She's in a rich man's school. She's got the money. Its a smokescreen. She chose that school to fight over the issue.

Or because its, you know, a top 20 law school.

And even if that is why she chose Georgetown, why does it matter? She presented evidence that suggested Georgetown's contraceptive provision causes financial hardship to students, her own status and motivations are irrelevant.

Yep, they are.


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 Mannahnin wrote:
Sorry about T-Bone. I bring up Connie because I know we both have young women we love in our lives, and we want them to be able to take care of themselves.

Fluke having the money personally or not is beside the point; that's a distraction. Other women do not. Covering birth control is a really basic thing, it doesn't cost much, and it helps treat or avoid a lot of serious and more expensive things, like ovarian cysts, and endometriosis. That latter having come up in my own family.

And it's not just about us paying for it, it's about requiring insurance companies to do the right thing, including in policies people pay for themselves, without subsidy.

And then you go and make a reasoned statement like that, that I'm forced to support. Damn it!

EDIT: Manny check your PM. Q for you.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Sorry about T-Bone. I bring up Connie because I know we both have young women we love in our lives, and we want them to be able to take care of themselves.

Fluke having the money personally or not is beside the point; that's a distraction. Other women do not. Covering birth control is a really basic thing, it doesn't cost much, and it helps treat or avoid a lot of serious and more expensive things, like ovarian cysts, and endometriosis. That latter having come up in my own family.

And it's not just about us paying for it, it's about requiring insurance companies to do the right thing, including in policies people pay for themselves, without subsidy.

Manny... I'm confused...

Most insurances cover BC... why? Because it's cheaper than paying for a women's childbirth.

The issue is forcing an organization to cover something that runs contrary to their belief (Catholics). Note: I'm a heathen, so I don't really care, but understand why the Catholic Institution would consider this a intrusion to their belief.

And besides, like I said earlier, it's cheap. OB Docs hand them out like candy... PP give 'em out... Heck Walmart/Target has some at $9.

It was all about starting a fight (Fluke vs Georgetown).