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The Warpsmith looks like how I'd expect one to look..

For people who wanted more Dragon then flyer, their is always thearmourcast Steam Dragon.

That head looks kind of like Crow from MST3k...

There's always the upcoming reaper clockwork dragon which looks like it will be a ton better than the armourcast Crow.

 Darth Bob wrote:
IOverall, I think a lot of people are overreacting to some crudely taken photos from White Dwarf. Additionally, if there's anything I've learned about the GW display models, the 'Eavy Metal team has a tendancy to either make the model look really good (Eldar Harlequins) or really bad (Beastmen Minotaurs). I want to see the plastics, but overall, I think these are great kits. News that we could be getting more? Awesome! I just hope we get plastic Plague Marines as detailed and awesome as those Warp Talons.

I think these kits will blend in better when surrounded by the rest of an army in a unified scheme. You lose context in isolated pics like these.

Very true,

I think the models look amazing! Kinda hoping for more kits involving ornately corrupt armour decor/flesh fest as it has this nice taste to it.
Fingers crossed for those legion specific kits as always wanted to collect thousand sons - unless they not happening now as it been a while since been able to check up on all this (so apologies if this is the case now)

Maulerfiend

Also, any else think they've down-sized the lightning claws on these new models? I thought the dark vengence ones were tiny on that chosen model

Guess they just trying to make the loyalists look like their compensating for something

The more I look at these new miniatures, the more I like them. As far as I can see here they aren't as amazing as the Dark Vengance models, but they do fit in with the new chaos look.

I am sure that a few people will change their minds once they see new stuff arranged with the entire line in the codex or whatever.

gorgon wrote:

 Darth Bob wrote:
IOverall, I think a lot of people are overreacting to some crudely taken photos from White Dwarf. Additionally, if there's anything I've learned about the GW display models, the 'Eavy Metal team has a tendancy to either make the model look really good (Eldar Harlequins) or really bad (Beastmen Minotaurs). I want to see the plastics, but overall, I think these are great kits. News that we could be getting more? Awesome! I just hope we get plastic Plague Marines as detailed and awesome as those Warp Talons.

I think these kits will blend in better when surrounded by the rest of an army in a unified scheme. You lose context in isolated pics like these.

Same here, the minis always look ten times better in person, people have been overreacting way too much over some blurry pics. Also there have been what I thought were ugly models such as the Storm raven which looks a lot better in an army with a unified scheme.

Hmm, this all looks awesome actually. Emphasis on Daemon Engines to set them apart from loyalists is a huge step in the right direction. I think this is shaping up to look like one of the best Chaos releases in quite a while. This is getting me more excited to see how the Dark Angels got updated now since it looks like they are doing everything not to repeat the lackluster release of each codex in 4E. I hope the CSM players enjoy what the wait brought them.

I personally cannot wait to get my hands on these models and all the other new models! I have been waiting for some proper Chaos Models since 2007, which I know is not as long as some of the Necron or Dark Eldar players... but roughly 5 years is still a long time to wait.

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 Starfarer wrote:
I've gotta admit, I'm a little underwhelmed by the daemon engines. I don't think they are necessarily bad, I'm just not crazy about them. They also just don't really fit my Death Guard army.

Much the same. I was expecting something more along the lines of the old Daemon Engines but these are too organic. They also don't fit into the aesthetic of my Death Guard at all and I would be as well scratchbuilding one if I ever wanted to field them. Actually I wonder how well a Blight Drone would work as the dragon thingy? Or maybe a Zombie Dragon.

To be honest the only changes that my existing army is likely to see is that a couple of cultists squads will be replacing some CSM squads and I may try a Lord for a while to see how he rolls.

I understand what you're saying with Deathguard, but they've always had a disparate aesthetic by virtue of their slimey organic look. That said the blight drone would probably be too small but building a larger one sure would look cool.

That or you get one of these and slap some armor on:

Bravo GW
No more "Was marines, but now has spikes so its chaos" crap.

Really nice to see chaos moving in a different direction and on its own, rather than following the footsteps of nilla marines.

Not interested in everything since i run a khorne army (daemon + mortal mix)
But the maulerfiend is a must have.

The talons look pretty impressive too, rather like a chaos version of sang guard.

The dragon, well, i want to see more pics of this one.
From the angle we can see im impressed, but it depends what they have done with the sides and tail. (or what i can do if i want to change it)

So far i think ill be ordering 2 maulers, a dragon and 2 units of talons.

Any Nightlord news?

 AzureDeath wrote:
Any Nightlord news?

Other than the really nightlord-y jump pack dudes? No.

Using a zombie dragon as the CSM dragon is actually a really great idea for my death guard army.. It looks suitably nurglish as it is! That and it gives me an excuse to buy that lovely kit

Yeah, I think that just the unit entries that we have seen so far will really open up conversion possibilities.

Chaos may become the new Genestealer cult counts-as, as well. Think of all the Daemon Engines that could be big bugs, plus Cultists.

The zombie dragon kit is pretty spot on.
If you use the alternate arm joints and hip sections (for the big bat) you can get a pretty decent flying pose.
However, im not too sold on the size yet.

Putting my zombie dragon next to a dakka jet its pretty damn small.
Im thinking this dragon is going to be dakka jet size+

 Jackal wrote:
The zombie dragon kit is pretty spot on.
If you use the alternate arm joints and hip sections (for the big bat) you can get a pretty decent flying pose.
However, im not too sold on the size yet.

Putting my zombie dragon next to a dakka jet its pretty damn small.
Im thinking this dragon is going to be dakka jet size+

It's hard to tell from the leaked photograph unfortunately but you may be right.. And ofcourse there would be the problem of weapons, posing and a suitable flying stand. But I do see some pretty great potential. But let's wait and see what more that kit has in store for us

For me the Forgefiend and Maulerfiend are at best meh and at worst butt ugly. And yes they DO look like Dinobots/Zoids.

Flyer is ok although it looks a bit like a WHFB dragon that had a mid-air collision with some Hell Talons.

The Warptalons look great but overall I am completely underwhelmed by the new daemon engines. DV had me so optimistic as well

What could you use as a Thousand Sons Dragon?

Or should i use that Dragon ?

Robbie, i intend to order the dragon anyway, so once it turns up i dont mind taking some pics of it for you next to the zombie dragon (ill throw it on a flyer base)

Im pretty interested myself in the size comparison.

So do we have any confirmation about whether this is all of the kits? Or if they are plastic or Finecast? It seems odd to have so few photos when they apparently had the White Dwarf in their hands.

Has Faeit212 said anything about more pictures coming?

I enjoy the looks of all of them except the forgefiend. I'm not sure what to think about that atm.. it looks incredibly mechanical yet stationary sorta like one of the tanks from Tiberium Sun. I'll buy it none the less I reckon.

The Warp Talons have an interesting description about 'tearing through reality with their claws'. Something akin... will this mean a special arrival or an improved 'daemon' ++ save? Maybe even a better wounding capacity.

 Bloodhorror wrote:
What could you use as a Thousand Sons Dragon?

Or should i use that Dragon ?

Not quite sure how it would scale up, but maybe the Karl Franz, on Deathclaw kit? Not exactly a dragon but it's bird themed which tzeench typically likes

Dudes.... Think about it hard and you will see that the dragon can be a stand-in for the old epic Tzeentch flyers.

Ok not exact... but the kit will pass for Tzeentch.

I didn't really like the old chaos kits, but I am a fan of the new daemons. I may start a new chaos army with this codex. These kits actually look evil, as opposed to the "hurr duur I have spikes" marines. Brings me back to playing DoW: Winter Assault as a kid, where chaos (at least to me) felt like an evil horde. Prepare yourself wallet, here comes foot CSM!

Oh my god my IW are going to oil there joints when they see this lot. I think I may have just found my new IW boss.

Not a fan of the dragon so far. Not too crazy about the warp talons either but I`ll wait till I actually see them.

The mauler/forge fiend I already kinda like but I have to wonder what size of base it is on though? Anyone confirm?

If its an IG hvy wpn base then its just a big pyrovore and I wont be too impressed. Especially for the £28 bucks I reckon it`ll cost. If that's a trygon base well I`ll probably get 3.

The amazing Necron, GK, DE releases, combined with the years of waiting through 4e in anticipation of a legions codex, built up my hopes too much.

The warp talons have an awkward amount of ornamentation, worse than the current raptors which I consider great.

Warpsmith is pretty cool, static but not much you can do about that with a techmarine.

Daemon engines are a minor letdown. The ranged variant has the same lame chicken legs as the awful awful plastic daemon prince. The guns are cool. The torso is cool. The melee variant is alright but the melee claws are extremely limp wristed and the head is way less hardcore than the juggernaut. No idea why they changed the old gargoyle head ornamentation to the "sad emperor's children face" smokestacks.

The dragon looks like a bad conversion.


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kryczek wrote:
If its an IG hvy wpn base then its just a big pyrovore and I wont be too impressed. Especially for the £28 bucks I reckon it`ll cost. If that's a trygon base well I`ll probably get 3.

Did you say that backwards? If they are trygon size you think they will give us 3 to a box?

 Jackal wrote:
Robbie, i intend to order the dragon anyway, so once it turns up i dont mind taking some pics of it for you next to the zombie dragon (ill throw it on a flyer base)

Im pretty interested myself in the size comparison.

Please do! Would be really good to see if it's a feasible conversion. The idea is really growing on me anyway though