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How much can FNP stack? If there isn't a limit I could see GW not giving Icon of Nurgle FNP to avoid having Plague Marines /w a 3+ FNP.

I eagerly await to see if Aspiring Sorcerers are Mastery 1, which would prevent them from even casting Wind of Chaos.

 -DE- wrote:
Ichor was the name of the blood of gods in Greek mythology. It's like saying 'gore blood'.

He listed that definition. Ichor blood is commonly used as a description of the blood of the gods when referring to greek mythology. So yes it is, but it is common usage when discussing it.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I eagerly await to see if Aspiring Sorcerers are Mastery 1, which would prevent them from even casting Wind of Chaos.

Or being useful in any way other than to try and turn themselves into a demon prince, which will fail anyways because they will kill themselves with a strength 4 hit! : )

I am still excited to see what happens with the mastery level stuff. Going to pick up my WD now.

Someone earlier made a comment on how the new Chaos style is similar to Cryx.
I'm going to look at the Codex closely to see which of my Cryx collection could be used as stand-ins for the short term to see how the new deamon engines play.

I can't wait to see a Boon bomb list where it is just maxed out boon rolls to see how many DPs you can get on the field.

 pretre wrote:
I can't wait to see a Boon bomb list where it is just maxed out boon rolls to see how many DPs you can get on the field.

Challenge accepted.

 Brometheus wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I eagerly await to see if Aspiring Sorcerers are Mastery 1, which would prevent them from even casting Wind of Chaos.

Or being useful in any way other than to try and turn themselves into a demon prince, which will fail anyways because they will kill themselves with a strength 4 hit! : )

I am still excited to see what happens with the mastery level stuff. Going to pick up my WD now.

They would still be able to cast the beam, which is pretty nice, considering they can reroll the warp charge 2 one.

If you get hands on WD we need more pics pix ploxx.....
Oh and by any chance do we know when the digital WD will come out?

Actually, the WC2 thing is really nice for the table. It means you have a better chance of getting the one you want there.


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Re: Digital WD. Saturday, iirc, from the thing they posted on their blog

Really not liking any of these new models at all... and really not all that keen on having to add in tonnes of random rolls for effects.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

They would still be able to cast the beam, which is pretty nice, considering they can reroll the warp charge 2 one.

Bolt of Change wasn't worth it when it had 24" range and isn't any better with 18" and a new name. When I pay 250 odd points for a unit of AP3 bolters I'm not going to shoot tanks.

It isn't tons of rolls. It's just the boon table. If you don't want the other randoms, don't take the units that have been random for a while (possessed, dreads and spawn).

And the boon table is pretty nice for what it does.

 pretre wrote:
I can't wait to see a Boon bomb list where it is just maxed out boon rolls to see how many DPs you can get on the field.

Better also be prepared with spawns too then. That said I really get the feeling GW is really relying on the boons to make up for some of the squishier aspects of the army. Not that it says much but it looks better than the current codex.

How many challenges happen in a typical game, honestly?

 pretre wrote:
It isn't tons of rolls. It's just the boon table. If you don't want the other randoms, don't take the units that have been random for a while (possessed, dreads and spawn).

My army of absolute Chaos is just those and Bile's enhanced warriors.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

They would still be able to cast the beam, which is pretty nice, considering they can reroll the warp charge 2 one.

Bolt of Change wasn't worth it when it had 24" range and isn't any better with 18" and a new name. When I pay 250 odd points for a unit of AP3 bolters I'm not going to shoot tanks.

Cast the beam in a unit then, Hit four models and your still hitting four models around S4-S8 at AP1. Go for that instant death and all that.

 pretre wrote:
It isn't tons of rolls. It's just the boon table. If you don't want the other randoms, don't take the units that have been random for a while (possessed, dreads and spawn).

And the boon table is pretty nice for what it does.

Thanks for the digi WD answer, and btw totally agree on the boon table.
I find it very interesting. And one thing is for sure. We re going to have a hell of a laugh in our games from now on with the new dex.

@blackfang

For me, around 6 on average counting both sides.

Is posting very bad, grainy screenshots from the german version of the new codex against the dakka policy?

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Is no one else seriously annoyed by the prices this time? May have crossed the line for me now.

Ill agree. I like the fiends (yes, I said it) but the price is a bit of a bummer. I havent seen the US price yet, but 52 Euro will likely yield at least $55 US, so around $45 with the typical internet discount. Id like a few of them, so about $10 less would have been great. Guess maybe just 1 or 2...

 pretre wrote:
@carabine: Shh. You're ruining the trite internet commentary!

Oh sorry lemme pick it back up.

Yeah those awesome looking models look like dinobots... yeah awesome looking, money stealing dinobots...

Sorry guys just can't get with it. I like Kelly's writing and I like alot of the new models. Not a huge fan of the Dragon YET, and I see alot of conversion posibilities for the fiends. Maulers except for being finecast I had plans to dremel out the faces and replace with warped terminator heads same for oblits. Really sad to see it's not a plastic two type kit like the raptors. I like the raptors except for being too busy like the chosen.

Simply put myself along with my gaming circle agree that it's the codex that'll make or break chaos now, and we're all excited over some of the new rules.

However that said we are terribly dissapointed with GW. No plastic oblits, no new beserkers or plaguemarines, no new landraider model, no plastic power armored lord (ie: space marine captain), no plastic havocs. Rule wise, WHY IS TZEENTCH'S MARK UNCHANGED?! Lord of change, every edition the mark changes why is it still +1 Invul.

Anyways I understand that some of this may be rolling out with the 2nd wave but no way is everything that I and others were expecting here gonna roll out in another wave.

 pretre wrote:
It isn't tons of rolls. It's just the boon table. If you don't want the other randoms, don't take the units that have been random for a while (possessed, dreads and spawn).

And the boon table is pretty nice for what it does.

What about the warlord table?

 Cyrax wrote:
Is posting very bad, grainy screenshots from the german version of the new codex against the dakka policy?

I'm sure it is if writing the rules is a no-no, photographs of them must be ,

but if they were removed and the thread locked Nerd Rage would be terrible to behold

so here they stay

MoN on a swooping FMC could be nasty for those who think its a useless mark.

EDAT: Still take grounded tests of course

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
It isn't tons of rolls. It's just the boon table. If you don't want the other randoms, don't take the units that have been random for a while (possessed, dreads and spawn).

And the boon table is pretty nice for what it does.

What about the warlord table?

You mean you have to roll on a warlord table just like you've been doing all of 6th?

I want to hear the digital codex price. I m sure my hair will fall to the ground by that but I m still hoping...

 -DE- wrote:
Looks like the traitors trained their juggers well if they can drive them to run as fast as seekers! Bloodletters could learn a thing or two from these guys.

Did anyone tell Kelly 'ichor' means 'blood'? Blood blood? Seriously...

Why would anyone take the Mark of Nurgle on the DP, unless they intend to keep him behind cover and... shoot things with him? If it can even take a gun or a psychic shooting attack. He already has a 5++ after all... Are DP's attacks no longer AP2? If they are, why would you need Rending? It's a miniscule help against vehicles.

Did anyone tell you that ichor does not mean blood?

@tyr: yeah, we already covered that.

 CT GAMER wrote:
Why is it that Chaos is starting to look like a Warmachine/Hordes army?

Because GW is trying to get back all the customers its lost to PP?