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**daedalus-templarius**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ward does do everything - otherwise he wouldn’t be our Spiritual Liege. Ward is all of us, and we are all of Ward.

*makes sign of The Ward across chest*

schadenfreude wrote:
I think there was a unit called demagogue? Or something to lead the cultists. Anyhow not to concerned as long as world bearers get some kind of bonus. The main thing I am hoping for is multiple competitive builds rather than another codex black legiom.

You’re right, there was a Demagogue unit. But he wasn’t a Marine and he certainly wasn’t related to the Word Bearers in any way. He was just a regular human.

He did make Draigo after all! Best character evar!

I need to figure out how to make his sword a giant hellblade like I have in my art... and have him lead my Chaos army (not using Draigo rules though, obviously)

**Leth**

Like I said, I have no problem with the changes to the unit as long as the points are representative of it. Fear is fine as long as the icon doesnt cost 50 points, same for the marks. Since we have no points yet, it is hard to be sure of anything.

**tripsix**

Starfarer wrote:
tripsix wrote:
Has anyone seen/heard anything about the potential for a Legion Codex?

There was never any truth to the rumors of a Legion codex, and the only reason people believed there would be was blind hope. The guy posting Chaos Legion rumors has 20 False rankings and counting to the Rumor Tracker. There will never, ever be a Chaos Legion codex released from GW. Accept it and work with what we have.

The rules seem more or less ok. I had a minor nerd-rage to myself over the FNP for Slaanesh and not Nurgle, but whatever. I've been wanting to expand my Death Guard to include a Fabius Bile led enhanced warrior contingent for awhile, so I'm going with that and am just going to have fun with the new rules.

What does bother me is not only do we not get new special character, we don't get a single new sculpt for our existing special characters. I was really excited for a new Kharn sculpt, and hoping for a new Bile sculpt. Considering all the new SM sculpts that are made year in, year out, anything new for special characters sculpts after 10-16 years of the same sculpts would be welcome.

I was hoping for some new sculpts too, Kharne is a bit overdue, a new Abbadon would have been nice too.

**H.B.M.C.**

I’d never looked at it before, but wow Fear really is a useless rule. Pass an Ld Test, of which most things will pass as most things are Ld7 and above, and all Marines are immune to it. Why would you pay for that rule...

**SendInTheNextWave**

Tomorrow it should be announced then released around the 6th of October if I am not mistaken. So goes the rumors at least.

**Leth**

Fear also protects you from fear doesn't it? If its really cheap I dont see it being a big deal.

**Amaya**

Leth wrote:
Fear also protects you from fear doesn't it? If its really cheap I dont see it being a big deal.

Woohoo, this crappy ability protects us from it!

**carabine**

Leth wrote:
Fear also protects you from fear doesn't it? If its really cheap I dont see it being a big deal.

No it doesn't, explicitly doesn't.

**Slayer le boucher**

I did a bit of tampering with the pictures found on the picasa page, to have a better view of some of the pages of the codex.

You gotta admit that with a nice paint scheme and surrounded with other minis, the Forgefiedn and the Dragon does'nt look that out of place and even looks kinda good.

Also saw on some of the pics that the dragon has rear legs, while short.

And one of the illustration of the book, and really, from those i saw, they are just splendid!

**daedalus-templarius**

I'm really looking forward to color illustrations in a codex.

I like all the grayscale ones we have now... but color is just so much cooler.

**Plokoone**

Slayer le boucher wrote:

And one of the illustration of the book, and really, from those i saw, they are just splendid!

Sonofabitch! I was trying to get away from doing more true scale! I told myself it was irrational to make an army and that the stock models weren't so bad after all. Dammit that pic is cool.

**megatrons2nd**

It might be cooler, but is it really worth the added cost?

**Slayer le boucher**

tripsix wrote:
Starfarer wrote:
tripsix wrote:
Has anyone seen/heard anything about the potential for a Legion Codex?

There was never any truth to the rumors of a Legion codex, and the only reason people believed there would be was blind hope. The guy posting Chaos Legion rumors has 20 False rankings and counting to the Rumor Tracker. There will never, ever be a Chaos Legion codex released from GW. Accept it and work with what we have.

The rules seem more or less ok. I had a minor nerd-rage to myself over the FNP for Slaanesh and not Nurgle, but whatever. I've been wanting to expand my Death Guard to include a Fabius Bile led enhanced warrior contingent for awhile, so I'm going with that and am just going to have fun with the new rules.

What does bother me is not only do we not get new special character, we don't get a single new sculpt for our existing special characters. I was really excited for a new Kharn sculpt, and hoping for a new Bile sculpt. Considering all the new SM sculpts that are made year in, year out, anything new for special characters sculpts after 10-16 years of the same sculpts would be welcome.

I was hoping for some new sculpts too, Kharne is a bit overdue, a new Abbadon would have been nice too.

Nothing tell or don't tell us that we won't have new sculpts for them in the Second Wave.

**mjl7atlas**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ward does do everything - otherwise he wouldn’t be our Spiritual Liege. Ward is all of us, and we are all of Ward.

*makes sign of The Ward across chest*

schadenfreude wrote:
I think there was a unit called demagogue? Or something to lead the cultists. Anyhow not to concerned as long as world bearers get some kind of bonus. The main thing I am hoping for is multiple competitive builds rather than another codex black legiom.

You’re right, there was a Demagogue unit. But he wasn’t a Marine and he certainly wasn’t related to the Word Bearers in any way. He was just a regular human.

++++++++++Incoming transmission+++++++++++++++++++

The Holy Inquisition has indeed uncovered the whereabouts of the XI Legion, they are the most foul denizens of the warp, they are.......... The WARD Bearers! BEWARE!

"Libera tutemet ex infernis"

*gunshot

++++++++++End Transmission+++++++++++++++++++++++

**H.B.M.C.**

Haha! Ward Bearers. I've not heard that one before.

**Byte**

SendInTheNextWave wrote:

Tomorrow it should be announced then released around the 6th of October if I am not mistaken. So goes the rumors at least.

Thanks. For some reason my post was deleted with no PM or edit... Classy.

**Kanluwen**

megatrons2nd wrote:
It might be cooler, but is it really worth the added cost?

If you take a look at the Vampire Counts book, the Empire book, etc for WHFB...you'd say yeah.

The only downside is that it's a hardback and opponents have grubby hands.

**streamdragon**

Chaos Dragon?

More like Chaos Pterodactyl!

(I'm positive someone has made this joke already, but don't really feel like looking through 48 pages...)

**Darth Bob**

I don't mind the fact that Nurgle Marines get fear. It's very appropriate and fluffy, even if it might not be the most valuable ability strategically. I've never been one for min/maxing, and I personally think every unit in every Codex is useful in its own way.

Except you, Pyrovore. Feth you.

**Overlord Zerrtin**

I actually am starting to like the dragon flier look i know its rumored to have only the one hades autocannon but in that picture posted further up this page anyone else see it breathing fire??

**Slayer le boucher**

On the pictures of the two different heads in its maw you can clearly see a different weapon, so there is at least two maw weapons, and the base Hades guns embed in his claws.

Now something i've been a bit worried/curious.

On the Chaos Boon chart the Deamon Prince swap..., do you swap the Character for a Deamon prince, but with his base gears and no options?

Or can you choose your options, or do you keep the options the model had when being a mortal?...

Also i really would love to see Kharn army entry and rules...

**Brometheus**

Maybe it's just for looks, or it's attacks have "soul blaze"

**TechMarine1**

Anybody know if they're coming back with legion-specific stuff?

**Ravenous D**

$60 for the codex?

Oh gw....

**Dr. Delorean**

Australians already pay $62 for the hardbacks, and yes, it is awful.

**DustGod**

Any guesses as to whether or not chosen will be able to take combi-weapons squad wide... I'm think about doing Nurgle Chosen w/ combis as part of a Death guard force.

Also what benefit is slow and purposefull for a demon price of nurgle?

**Slayer le boucher**

TechMarine1 wrote:
Anybody know if they're coming back with legion-specific stuff?

There is pictures of Failcost upgrades sets for specific Cults gears, but can't find it back...

**quickfuze**

In the new white dwarf the Hellkite has a flamer like weapon option also for the Maw.

and WTF GW, Feel no Pain on Slaneesh? Can you say lets change a basic rule of plague marines so people will buy noise marines... I am not happy about this...Fear is useless....not happy, not happy at all

**Starfarer**

Slayer le boucher wrote:
tripsix wrote:
Starfarer wrote:
tripsix wrote:
Has anyone seen/heard anything about the potential for a Legion Codex?

There was never any truth to the rumors of a Legion codex, and the only reason people believed there would be was blind hope. The guy posting Chaos Legion rumors has 20 False rankings and counting to the Rumor Tracker. There will never, ever be a Chaos Legion codex released from GW. Accept it and work with what we have.

The rules seem more or less ok. I had a minor nerd-rage to myself over the FNP for Slaanesh and not Nurgle, but whatever. I've been wanting to expand my Death Guard to include a Fabius Bile led enhanced warrior contingent for awhile, so I'm going with that and am just going to have fun with the new rules.

What does bother me is not only do we not get new special character, we don't get a single new sculpt for our existing special characters. I was really excited for a new Kharn sculpt, and hoping for a new Bile sculpt. Considering all the new SM sculpts that are made year in, year out, anything new for special characters sculpts after 10-16 years of the same sculpts would be welcome.

I was hoping for some new sculpts too, Kharne is a bit overdue, a new Abbadon would have been nice too.

Nothing tell or don't tell us that we won't have new sculpts for them in the Second Wave.

Well the release dates on that White Dwarf page seem to span the month of October. I'm not optimistic for November releases, when there is so much rumored in the pipeline for other armies before the end of the year. I'd love it if I'm wrong and there is more stuff right around the corner though.

**megatrons2nd**

Kanluwen wrote:
megatrons2nd wrote:
It might be cooler, but is it really worth the added cost?

If you take a look at the Vampire Counts book, the Empire book, etc for WHFB...you'd say yeah.

The only downside is that it's a hardback and opponents have grubby hands.

I have looked at them. The quality is about the same as the current codex books in my possession. They are smaller than other companies books for the same price, and have little "new" material added. Aside from the army list, most of what I read was rehashes of stuff published a while back, if not copied directly. So, my take is....... No.

I will say a properly bound Hard cover book is overall better than a Soft cover book, but not to what is proposed.