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 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Looks like Kelly's new direction for Chaos involves less "woohoo random dice rolling"

You haven't been paying attention, huh?

Oviouesly it's less "Woohoo?" Random Dice rolling, and more "Woohoo!" Random dice rolling.

Right? .... Right?

Cant believe the Aspiring Champion is 2 pounds cheaper than SM Commander and has only 8 components...

The dragon looks toyish but might be converted in a good way. Fiends look better on the pics but still, that Maulerfiend head is just silly. Forgefiend (with weapon head) looks pretty cool.

Dont like the raptors, they indeed look too busy :(

BoK has new snapshots up.







Ahriman confirmed for not having Divination and always being required to accept challenges

Ahriman's also Mastery level 4.

Makes him the best in the game at the moment.

Well... i just saw the one click bundle. $300 CAD... GW is out of their bloody damn insane minds. $300 for all of the new toys and a hardcover codex? For $60??? I regret the money I just spent on dark vengeance. I'm seriously considering selling it and everyhing else off...... and after doing the math, the one-click bundle doesn't even offer a discount......

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
You know, with the price of that Helldrake, the Hell Blade is actually a decent purchase now.

Who'd have thunk that FW would be so alluring when compared to GW,s regular offering, especially if they ever really make it into stores...

That's also what made me decide to buy another hellblade.

Erm, its £147.50 for the bundle.

But normal prices;

Book - £30
Drake - £45
Mauler - £40
Raptors - £20.50
Champ - £12

Thats a massive saving of ........ Oh wait, nothing :(

Shame for no Divination. Maulerfiend isn't looking too bad. I wonder if you can give it marks.

EDIT: For those complaining about prices, Frontline gaming is running a 25% discount for preorders. It'd be a good way to save money, and brings down the kits to bearable prices.

Having been a huge fan of CSM I was very excited about this release, but now I've just lost all interest.

I'm not impressed with any of this. I did like the Raptors/Warp Talons, but now that I've looked closer they're just too overloaded and simply too much. The fiend and the goatsedrake are among the most ridiculous things the company has ever released.

No Chaos for me.

I'm not that impressed with the models overall. They seem scattered conceptually, and lack a maturity. The Dragon is terrible as are the two engine things... which is a shame as the Hellbrute and cultists showed a promising start....

The Warpsmith is astonishing though... that nail was hit perfectly on the head.

Perhaps im too critical... i just dont see how they are going to top Dark Eldar... easily the best release (conceptually, models-wise) in 10s of years.

FTL

I really hope no ne buys that battle force. What a rubbish box set, take out 8 Zerkers and I think 5 standerd CSM and add three bikes... And put the price up. Nice.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Is it just me or are sonic weapons now really good? Ignore cover and ap 3? Nice

I can't see the image because of my work's internet filter.

Is the AP3 ignore cover for all sonic weapons, or just the DOOOOOM SIIIIIREN?

 Extreaminatus wrote:
I can't see the image because of my work's internet filter.

Is the AP3 ignore cover for all sonic weapons, or just the DOOOOOM SIIIIIREN?

just the doom siren when being used as a heavy weapon - so probably one per squad. Sonic blaster has a bolter profile with salvo 2/3 and ignores cover

gonna hinge on cost, i think. looking good with the ignores cover though.

So happy I have a metric butt-ton of Noise Marines now.

Only the single frequency Blastmaster and Doom Siren are AP3, the blasters are AP5.

Gotta love the head of the Corvidae not having access to Divination spells, and being forced to accept challenges. Where his reward for winning is to mutate uncontrollably. You know, the guy who hated mutation so much he gathered his mates and caused havoc across the Planet of Sorcerers casting a spell specifically to ensure none of them would mutate again.

hey man there you go, trying to apply logic and consistency to 40K fluff and rules. you know that gak don't fly.

At least IW have a bit of choice for their Lords at the moment....






Old-school WARsmith. Looks really nice but has more of a combat look than a "tech marine" look to it - easliy converted though (i replaced the claw with an axe and the servo-arm with a conversion beamer). Also, unless you biuld it it up it doesn't really stand out as a center piece as well as the bigger models.





Classy Techmarine - my personal fave. The website says it's still metal though.......It also comes with a bolter arm as well as the scanner arm. These also look good painted up in Iron Warrior colours.






The new War(p)smith. I personally think it looks too busy and I plan on converting my existing "Classy Techmarine" (as above) instead of getting this one - partly due to this being in FineCast and i can see those Mechandrites snapping off if the wind blows the wrong way.






Can't wait to see the rules section for the War(p)smith though.






Failing those - get a plastic Demon Prince and convert it to carry a Hammer form the DreadKnight kit.

I think that a unit of noise marines would be extra useful with these new rules, though it depends on their cost overall.
But the new weapons are good. An emperors children army is very viable but if cult are elites don't know how it will be fixed.
Do we know if mark specific lords unlock cult units as troops?

 Extreaminatus wrote:
So happy I have a metric butt-ton of Noise Marines now.

What's so good about getting your range halved on the move and not being able to assault?

 avedominusnox wrote:
I think that a unit of noise marines would be extra useful with these new rules, though it depends on their cost overall.
But the new weapons are good. An emperors children army is very viable but if cult are elites don't know how it will be fixed.
Do we know if mark specific lords unlock cult units as troops?

That's the rumor.

I don't see why it wouldn't though, it balances the force nicely. You know, instead of having ALL THE CULTS, you have to pick what you're want as scoring units.

 Extreaminatus wrote:
That's the rumor.

I don't see why it wouldn't though, it balances the force nicely. You know, instead of having ALL THE CULTS, you have to pick what you're want as scoring units.

Uh, not assaulting with Noise Marines, I guess. They're a mid-to-long range fire support unit, not an assault force.
Plop them on an objective, drown the enemy in a wall of noise.

Aspiring champion - The advent of 40k plastic characters is good, but the price???

It's more than the FC Apostle and Sorceror.

I'm not usually one to complain about much, but I feel this has to be said:

$83 for the Codex in Australia. $83. The collector's edition runs you $138, by the way. I could -just- understand it at $62, after all, it was a jump from $55, so not that bad, really, and lots of extra quality and so forth. But $83? I'll have to look at what they're asking for the digital copy, otherwise, it's overseas for me.

the GW site says that the new asp champ is in eight pieces, which means no spare parts or alternate weapons.

Bit of a shame

Would that include the base you think? Just thinking that

Head
2 piece Torso
Legs
Pack
2 Arms

is 7 pieces - so it might include an arm option - maybe swap that dagger for a bolter?

If mentioned before, please don't hang me, but I'm surprised that they are using BL cover art for this codex..

In fairness, that cover is amazing.

To be fair, I'm rather disappointed with the new releases. GW has jacked up the price of the Codexes by £10, with the fancy edition just being in b/w, having a tiny blood splat, and a bookmark ribbon. Even though it's a nice cover they still couldn't bother to come up with a new cover image, rather than recycling one already used by the BL?

...

Well, that was disappointing.