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 Robbietobbie wrote:

 Swara wrote:
Those with the Codex, am I reading it right that you can take a lord/sorcerer w/ terminator armor AND a mount?

You just might be O.o Wow I guess that's gonna get faq'ed though

Nm, under wargear section there is a subnote about not being able to

 Bonde wrote:
Can someone please list all the sneaky options in the book? So far I know you can use a count-as Huron Blackheart if you want to play Alpha Legion, and that jump pack and terminator armour troops can deep strike, but what more? Are there seriously no other options for infiltrating or scouting other than Hurons special warlord trait?

This was posted a few pages back.

 Robbietobbie wrote:

 Swara wrote:
Those with the Codex, am I reading it right that you can take a lord/sorcerer w/ terminator armor AND a mount?

You just might be O.o Wow I guess that's gonna get faq'ed though

No need, footnote specifies that they're incompatible with terminator armour.

I really hope the zombies not being able to take more than 10 in a group gets FAQed. I can't imagine that it was meant to be like that.

 Swara wrote:

 Robbietobbie wrote:

 Swara wrote:
Those with the Codex, am I reading it right that you can take a lord/sorcerer w/ terminator armor AND a mount?

You just might be O.o Wow I guess that's gonna get faq'ed though

Nm, under wargear section there is a subnote about not being able to

Good cause that would have been pretty OTT. The look on your opponent's face when you show him your lord in termie armour with mark of nurgle on a palanquin of nurgle..

 Swara wrote:
I really hope the zombies not being able to take more than 10 in a group gets FAQed. I can't imagine that it was meant to be like that.

Play it with a full 30 man squad, if someone calls you on it, don't play with them anymore, there is a very evident case of RAI here.

What do the Berzerkers get? Do they get the charge re-roll as standard, or do they have to get the icon for it.
What weapon options they have? Do entire squad have to get chainaxes, or can just some models have them while others don't?

 Swara wrote:
I really hope the zombies not being able to take more than 10 in a group gets FAQed. I can't imagine that it was meant to be like that.

Yeah, ten isn't much of a zombie hoard. It's more of a zombie support group, out to show their undead pride.

Although if I'm interpreting what I've read correctly (and I haven't gotten a chance to look at the chaos book yet, so please forgive me) you get the upgrade to zombies for your cultists automatically. So couldn't you take multiple squads of them? You'd bleed killpoints more, and it'd be slots intensive, but it'd add a lot of target saturation to the battlefield.

 Crimson wrote:
What do the Berzerkers get? Do they get the charge re-roll as standard, or do they have to get the icon for it.
What weapon options they have? Do entire squad have to get chainaxes, or can just some models have them while others don't?

They need the icon of wrath to re-roll assault range. Any model may take a chain axe so you don't have to upgrade the entire sqaud. Up to two plasma pistols. Champion can take combi-weapon and power weapons and such


And yeah about the plague zombies being 10 max.. That must be an oversight and I doubt anyone in my gaming area will make a point of it

 Lord Magnus wrote:

 Swara wrote:
I really hope the zombies not being able to take more than 10 in a group gets FAQed. I can't imagine that it was meant to be like that.

Play it with a full 30 man squad, if someone calls you on it, don't play with them anymore, there is a very evident case of RAI here.

I still will play with my full 35 man zombies hoards, they are already in the mail. I'm not sure why I worry as the people I play with won't care, but I still don't want my fellow Nurgle brethren to suffer.

EDIT: Something nasty that I noticed and I don't think has been mentioned yet is when you upgrade the maulerfiend to have the lasher tendrils he gets 2 sets of them. That confers a -2 attacks (min of 1) to anyone in base contact. He'll make a very nice tentaclly centerpiece for Typhus's hoard.

Typhus's zombification is worded as optional.

 Robbietobbie wrote:

They need the icon of wrath to re-roll assault range. Any model may take a chain axe so you don't have to upgrade the entire sqaud. Up to two plasma pistols. Champion can take combi-weapon and power weapons and such

Well that is a good news about the axes, but it is a bit sad that the only weapon options are pistols. I hoped power weapons and eviscerators. Also, is the icon cheaper for them than to other units, as they are 'wasting' half of its effects?

Well the champion could take pretty much any ranged weapon but combi seems the most likely. Flamer might be good too though. Normal points cost for icon

Made a first test list with Abaddon and Chosen as Troops... you can get very very shooty very very quickly with Chosen and back it up with 50 attacks per unit on the re-rollable charge at S5. Pretty dang awesome for a first list... tweaking will make for some brutal stuff.

 Swara wrote:

 Lord Magnus wrote:

 Swara wrote:
I really hope the zombies not being able to take more than 10 in a group gets FAQed. I can't imagine that it was meant to be like that.

Play it with a full 30 man squad, if someone calls you on it, don't play with them anymore, there is a very evident case of RAI here.

I still will play with my full 35 man zombies hoards, they are already in the mail. I'm not sure why I worry as the people I play with won't care, but I still don't want my fellow Nurgle brethren to suffer.

I will still pay that way as well, especially since the next sentence after the options talks about guns being used for clubbing their victims to death. The other options are weapons or mark based.

I can only imagine that RAI is to have 35 member zombie units. I could see it being the other way, but then it'd REALLY suck to limit the zombies to 1 CCW and 10 models.

One more cultist question: are some marks (Nurgle!) more expensive to them?

 kcwm wrote:

 Swara wrote:

 Lord Magnus wrote:

 Swara wrote:
I really hope the zombies not being able to take more than 10 in a group gets FAQed. I can't imagine that it was meant to be like that.

Play it with a full 30 man squad, if someone calls you on it, don't play with them anymore, there is a very evident case of RAI here.

I still will play with my full 35 man zombies hoards, they are already in the mail. I'm not sure why I worry as the people I play with won't care, but I still don't want my fellow Nurgle brethren to suffer.

I will still pay that way as well, especially since the next sentence after the options talks about guns being used for clubbing their victims to death. The other options are weapons or mark based.

I can only imagine that RAI is to have 35 member zombie units. I could see it being the other way, but then it'd REALLY suck to limit the zombies to 1 CCW and 10 models.

I wouldn't be so sure. This is the company that ruled that a Pair of Falchions doesn't count as two close combat weapons.

 GreyHamster wrote:

 kcwm wrote:

 Swara wrote:

 Lord Magnus wrote:

 Swara wrote:
I really hope the zombies not being able to take more than 10 in a group gets FAQed. I can't imagine that it was meant to be like that.

Play it with a full 30 man squad, if someone calls you on it, don't play with them anymore, there is a very evident case of RAI here.

I still will play with my full 35 man zombies hoards, they are already in the mail. I'm not sure why I worry as the people I play with won't care, but I still don't want my fellow Nurgle brethren to suffer.

I will still pay that way as well, especially since the next sentence after the options talks about guns being used for clubbing their victims to death. The other options are weapons or mark based.

I can only imagine that RAI is to have 35 member zombie units. I could see it being the other way, but then it'd REALLY suck to limit the zombies to 1 CCW and 10 models.

I wouldn't be so sure. This is the company that ruled that a Pair of Falchions doesn't count as two close combat weapons.

LOL...fair enough!

My army reduced in price so much that I have managed to effectively get a free dreadnaught. As champions are factored into the cost of the squad this adds up to some pretty big savings when combined with the reduced points costs all round. The only unit in my army that went up in price was my Havocs as they are all armed with flakk missiles now.

The Terminator weapon options are clearly a mistake as the wargear lists allows them to swap out their ranged and melee weapons.

Slightly annoyed that Sorcerors lost their invul save.

 Crimson wrote:
One more cultist question: are some marks (Nurgle!) more expensive to them?

N/K are twice as expensive as T/S.

 Crimson wrote:
One more cultist question: are some marks (Nurgle!) more expensive to them?

Yeah MoN and MoK are 2 ppm the rest are 1

 Slinky wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
One more cultist question: are some marks (Nurgle!) more expensive to them?

N/K are twice as expensive as T/S.

...

So for cultists Rage and +1T costs the same? That doesn't seem fair.

Welcome to Khorne worship, where everything is overcosted and the benefits don't matter.

Is their any anti air other then the heldrake?

By that I mean is their any other unit with sky fire?

Only havocs with flakk missiles (which are expensive)

Ozomoto wrote:
Is their any anti air other then the heldrake?

By that I mean is their any other unit with sky fire?

Havocs can have Flakk missiles...

Havocs get Flakk missiles but thats the only other AAA I have seen.

Palindrome wrote:
Havocs get Flakk missiles but thats the only other AAA I have seen.

What are the stats on flak missiles meaning S ap special rules.

Ozomoto wrote:

Palindrome wrote:
Havocs get Flakk missiles but thats the only other AAA I have seen.

What are the stats on flak missiles meaning S ap special rules.

It's in the BRB

S7 AP4

Ozomoto wrote:

Palindrome wrote:
Havocs get Flakk missiles but thats the only other AAA I have seen.

What are the stats on flak missiles meaning S ap special rules.

48" str7 ap4