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MOD EDIT: LINK TO THE LATEST MIERCE KICKSTARTER:

SAVAGE HORDES II:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-savage-hordes-ii/

MOD EDIT: LINK TO THE LATEST MIERCE KICKSTARTER:

SAVAGE HORDES:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-savage-hordes

METAL AGE:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-metal-age

NEW KINDREDS:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-new-kindreds

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-monstrous-mounts

So here they are, the November releases for Darklands from us here at Mierce Miniatures - and what releases, dark age fantasy fans! For the ever-willing Fomoraic there is the obvious follow-up to the Srónax champion Órorqaan, namely his unit's standard-bearer, Qqolaan; for the unpronouncables of the Brythoniaid there is the Dyndraig trooper Gwyddol, who comprises a part of the Pendyndraig Galhwch's unit; for the serpenty Khthones we have Issithill, a Gorgonar standard-bearer who answers to Vilthiss, his unit champion; and finally we have the frankly awesome Carrowek of Carn Dhu, an Ysian War-Drune of quite healthy proportions who will lead your armies to death, destruction or victory, and quite possibly all three. Don't say we didn't warn you!

















All available to pre-order on the Mierce Miniatures website (the manufacturer) here http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=new&ref=243

Or available soon from one of our many retailers and distributors worldwide!

I really enjoy some of these miniatures, but reading the fluff about these guys really put me off with all the different names and stuff. I just stopped after a few scentences.

that presumption works for a lot of us, try to keep that in mind

Pretty sure it is a Welsh inspired dialect right? Most of that language seems to make very little sense to me, I can understand why it was used, doesn't stop it from being horrible reading material though!

Figures are incredible as always, pretty near every sculpt for this range has impressed me to no end, great transitions from sketch to final model.

 Commander Cain wrote:
Pretty sure it is a Welsh inspired dialect right?

Entirely too many vowels, and the words are way to short. Other than that, pretty much

But stuff like this...

"Qqolaan, again, is another unit member, this time a Srónax who pledges allegiance to the Fomoraic and the Fíorfomor Baalor, just like his Gultain Órorqaan."

or...

"Carrowek of Carn Dhu, a warlord for your Ker-Ys warband with the emphasis on Ker: for Carrowek is a Kernowek, a Cornishman, as well as being a War-Drune."

I dont think i understood a single sentence in any of those descriptions....

i think the first person to comment on these each time there is a new relese should be able to rename them for use on this forum somthing along the lines of brawny brian..rhino ron....snaky steve ....and pretty marion ?

Dont forget Busty Betty

Probably best to buy these on your credit card for security reasons. At least then if the assets of this company are moved to help prop up other companies you can at least get your money back !

Stunning models, I wish I could use the snake man as a Sslyth stand in

I guess the descriptions might make more sense when the names actually mean something to us. I don't think it makes much sense to a non-wargamer when discussing 40k-fluff all too many names and whatnot.

Based on Celtic dialects, which makes sense as the minis seem to have a bias towards aspects of Celtic mythology.

Lovely figures, that drune is gorgeous.

oldandcrabby wrote:
Probably best to buy these on your credit card for security reasons. At least then if the assets of this company are moved to help prop up other companies you can at least get your money back !

We're an independent company that has purchased the miniatures range and production equipment from Maelstrom Games Ltd, the range and product was independently valued and although the Mierce website is recent (it took a while to make, same with our premises move- premises solicitors can be glacial at times!) , we have been trading under our name for some months now, indeed any retailer/distributor that has ordered from us in the last six months will tell you that! - We have moved out of the Maelstrom premises and now have our own separate (we're a good 10 miles away from Mansfield) production facility that is much larger and better suited than to our needs than before. This will also increase our production rate - You wouldn't believe the cramped conditions we were in before, and we now have natural daylight!

Also - we manufacture all of our product in-house. We don't have to order stock in from other mini companies. Everything you see on our site -we make ourselves!

What this means to our customers is that they can order from us without fear - We have healthy stocks of our miniature range, and anything we don't have (some busy lines are currently out of stock) we can cast them up! All of the moulds and casting equipment, as well as the production rights are ours. Also, just as importantly the vastly experienced production staff all work for us so there will be no dip in the high quality of our miniature range. We make new moulds every day of the week to ensure that we don't cast from tired moulds. At the mo we have piles (well bins, it's neater and safer!) full of casts that we are packing up and then adding into stock. All of the packaging is also re-branded now. It's all Mierce Miniatures branding and also the Darklands stuff carries the game logo as well. This will also make our retailers happy as they get nice, swanky, new (full colour, high quality) packaging to display in their store (and there's no web addy for a rival retailer on each box anymore!).

We're keen to work alongside retailers of all kinds (FLGS to internet only) to bring our miniature range to gamers across the globe. Indeed, at the moment we have distributors in the USA, Germany and the UK and retailers across the globe. So retailers can order directly from ourselves, or a closer distributor for convenience.

We have no production issues at the moment (bar being a little behind due to the move wiping a few days off of production, but we've coped very well with that!). Also, this past week has seen sculpts arrive from Thomas David, Stephane N'guyen, Roberto Chaudon and you may well be pleased to know that Daniel Cockersell has almost finished his latest masterpiece! The sculpts we have, in-hand at the moment run waaaaay into 2013, sculpts are currently in progress for 6-12 months time. We've a healthy release schedule and if push came to shove we needn't commission another mini for months and would still have releases every month for over a year! We have been planning the game for some time, and I believe you will all be surprised when you see Stefan Kopinski's awesome full colour double-page artwork for the front cover - It will knock your socks off!

Regarding the names. Yes, some of them can seem odd. They are all based on old dialects though - Imagine how confusing Clan Skyre for Skaven may have been for a new wargamer - or a Cryxian Liche Lord!

Our game system will be set in the Dark Ages of northwest Europe. It will take a lot of myths and legends of that era and bring them alive. A lot of Celtic and Anglo-Saxon mythology and names look different to how we spell names now (never mind the Welsh, they're still at it!), but it's a case of familiarity (or un-familiarity as it were). We'll certainly work on some phonetics to help reduce confusion - not to mention the odd internet argument (hands up who's had an argument about how to pronounce Tzeentch before?) *hand up*

Some of the names/factions you see are heavily based on real life civilisations /characters. Indeed one of our sculptors (the mighty JAG! Widely regarded by his peers as the best in the business at the 28-35mm scale) is currently working on our King Penda mini - This guy was a badass (Penda, not JAG, he's a really nice guy! )and was a Mercian King who was infamous for his bloodthirsty nature - In fact around 1400 years ago he fought a battle not 3 miles away from Mierce HQ where he killed a rival king. The dead of that battle (around 300 men) are buried under the church a stone's throw away from my daughter's primary school! We're looking forward to bringing some legends from the Dark Ages alive (and adding our own of course), we're especially looking forward to adding a strong, dark fantasy twist to ancient legends. And being from the Derbys/Notts/S.Yorks area of the UK all of our staff are Mercians - Mierce ( phon~ 'Mer-sha') is a word used to describe people from Mercia! Also there's a local army regiment with a proud history, our roots grow long and deep around here, as do the legends! Robin Hood was but a local fop compared to some of the nutters from the Dark Ages!

My name is Tim Fisher by the way I'm the Studio and Production manager for Mierce Miniatures and I run things here on a day to day basis. I'm also our master mould-maker and every mould we make has been made by my loving hand so it meets my (very) high QC standards. I'm rather proud to say that every miniature we make has, in some way had my direct involvement. I don't cast much anymore - I have staff for that! But I would happily put the quality of our casting up against any others in the business (I trained our casters myself). If anyone has any queries about our range or want to shoot the breeze about this post (which started off short, I promise!) feel free to e-mail me on timfisher@[pleasenospam]mierce-miniatures.com (you will need to remove the brackets and the no spam bit ) I'm not able to browse forums all day, every day but I do get a sharp bleep from my Blackberry when I get mail so that's the best contact!

Interesting.

Were the assets of Maelstrom Games Limited transferred to Mierce Miniatures Limited whilst Maelstrom Games Ltd was trading insolvently?

Tim,
With the utmost respect for the miniatures production part of the business, I couldn't let your post go unresponded to. While you may technically be an independent company, you're still a part of the "Maelstrom Family" as you're owned wholly by Rob Lane of Maelstrom - who spent some time here as "Maelstrom Games" as I'm sure you're aware posting pics of the new figures including links to the Mierce website.

https://www.duedil.com/company/06830539/mierce-miniatures-limited
https://www.duedil.com/company/04724863/maelstrom-games-limited

Until we see what happens to Maelstrom, and a lot of money and product owed to consumers and suppliers in our hobby, with the potential to do some real damage to some of the smaller creditors/companies, I can't honestly order from you in good faith or even buy your product from other retailers. Which is a shame, as you do have some very nice sculpts (and I already own quite a few).

The Drune is a fantastic figure, right up till one looks at his ridiculous axe, which looks like it belongs in some silly anime video game for tweens rather than a game that bills itself as "dark fantasy".

Not sure I get the hairy rhino guy but it's quite competently executed.

I've never been a fan of the Khthon line, but this one is well sculpted. I like the touch of having banners on it's back that would be vertical depending on the snake's posture, though once again specifying they be human skin is a bit silly. At least I didn't see any boobs on them.

The Gwyddol is a thing of beauty, both in excellently sculpted movement and in general design. I thought the note on the drawing about the armor having been repaired was an interesting thought, and I'd love to know how this could be conveyed through sculpting or painting.

Like the new minis but not sure I like the sound of the switching companies names when it's clearly all owned by the same guy. That seems to me like it's all about trying to hide the cash under the Mierce mattress.

Mierce Miniatures wrote:
We're an independent company that has purchased the miniatures range and production equipment from Maelstrom Games Ltd

Noone is disputing that Mierce purchased the line on paper. Who owns Mierce though?

Rob Lane wrote:Additionally, having Mierce Miniatures separate from Maelstrom Games makes things a lot neater for myself as Managing Director of both companies and enables us to pursue funding for Mierce Miniatures as a creative new manufacturer, rather than part of an older retail company.

That just smacks of "We're dropping the boat anchor that is Maelstrom and trying to salvage the good bits."

I appreciate Mierce paid for the moulds/equipment etc but I am sure you got them for a fraction of what they cost new. And that was all bought originally with Maelstrom money. With a list of suppliers and customers about to get screwed over and lots of Maelstrom money been used to buy all the stuff for Mierce originally surely Tim you can see why people are upset.

oldandcrabby wrote:
I appreciate Mierce paid for the moulds/equipment etc but I am sure you got them for a fraction of what they cost new. And that was all bought originally with Maelstrom money. With a list of suppliers and customers about to get screwed over and lots of Maelstrom money been used to buy all the stuff for Mierce originally surely Tim you can see why people are upset.

Out of interest, oldandcrabby, do you have any other interests than having a go at Maelstrom at every opportunity?

Mierce Miniatures is listed as being incorporated in 2009 and was listed as Maelstrom Wargames Limited until 23rd March this year I.e. is the same thing.

So not quite the new shiney it has been portrayed as.

Legitemate discussion of a "new" player I'd say. If a creditor can link the two ops together as easily as I did then if MG goes down it makes MM a potential asset.

Just check the duedil links I posted to see who owns both businesses as well as their current wellbeing (on paper). While I don't particularly want to crap on either company, and I do absolutely believe that Mierce is ok financially at thus point in time ( - due to all the debt having being left with Maelstrom) I just feel it's dishonest and somewhat deceptive to attempt to represent the Mierce business as a totally separate and unrelated entity to the wargaming community...

 scipio.au wrote:
Just check the duedil links I posted to see who owns both businesses as well as their current wellbeing (on paper). While I don't particularly want to crap on either company, and I do absolutely believe that Mierce is ok financially at thus point in time ( - due to all the debt having being left with Maelstrom) I just feel it's dishonest and somewhat deceptive to attempt to represent the Mierce business as a totally separate and unrelated entity to the wargaming community...

You call it shifty and deceptive, the business community calls it standard operating practice

Which is shifty and deceptive.

BRY-GWY-3502 - Naegannwg, Tândyndraig of Gwaelod


FMR-BLR-3503 - Ucquraan, Srónax Warrior


KTH-GOR-0001 - Ophios, Gorgon of Khthon


KTH-GOR-0002 - Sthena, Gorgór of Khthon


YSN-KYS-3505 - Nung, Horn-Brute


Sneak-peak FMR-BLR-8852 - Uuthüll

Nice ass

Until I either get my money back or the 2 DV boxes I ordered I wouldn't touch Mierce Miniatures with a 9000 billion mile pole.
They can claim whatever they want but as far as I'm concerned it's owned by the same people who ran Maelstrom which means THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED AT ALL!!!

Also, as it's a FACT you can't pay through paypal (which offer some protection compared to the Electron and Debit cards they do accept) I'd say it's evident their credit is bad and that they can't be trusted.
I'm sure we will get some explanation about paypal not having reviewed their application yet or something like that. As long as Mierce, Eye of the Storm, Maunsfield, or whatever name changes that will happen in the next couple of months, if they dont have paypal it's pretty obvious their credit is bad. From my experience only scammers dont accept paypal.

I was going to say... aren't these Banelegions models?

Yes Banelegions were spun off into a separate company, Mierce Miniatures

supposedly in preparation for a KS to launch a game system, Darklands I think, to go with them.

(or if your more cynical to try and protect what might be a significant Maelstrom asset)