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2013/10/14 16:43:17
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2; New "The Sweet Spot" Reward!
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2013/10/14 18:35:15
Subject: Re:Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2; New "The Sweet Spot" Reward!
I had to drop out unfortunately. Things are tight for me at the moment, and as much as I would like some of their stuff, I will have to bow out for now.
If the Ysian horsemen had of made it, or Albainn monstrous Ogre types, I would have considered selling a kidney. Thankfully for me that is likely to be for the next kickstarter.
2013/10/14 19:51:07
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2; New "The Sweet Spot" Reward!
Fenriswulf wrote: I had to drop out unfortunately. Things are tight for me at the moment, and as much as I would like some of their stuff, I will have to bow out for now.
If the Ysian horsemen had of made it, or Albainn monstrous Ogre types, I would have considered selling a kidney. Thankfully for me that is likely to be for the next kickstarter.
I understand if you're money is tight. But just if you weren't aware, if you could manage to stay in with the £30 pledge (even the £10 pledge, I think), the pledge manager will stay open for a good long while I believe, allowing you to add later if you manage to stumble on some spare cash in a few months. Backers will also get a good discount (around 20%) on the rest of their range for a while also. Worth considering, just for the savings if you're thinking of picking stuff up at some point in the future. Obviously I respect your position, it was just incase you weren't aware of the discounts on their whole range for ks backers.
If those sculpts don't make it in... will they possibly just fund sculpting them on their own?
Somehow, companies Used to sculpt things and THEN get payment for it . BaneBeasts was amazing at this prior to Mierce! So, I hope their only new releases are not from kickstarters from here on out, I'd love to see some normal releases too.
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2013/10/14 20:08:30
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2; New "The Sweet Spot" Reward!
They are unlikely to release them on their own (certainly not all of them),
remember when they were releasing Banelegion minis they had a larger business to subsidise their costs , However they will form the starting point for future a future KS project (just like this project features stuff they had the art done for a while back during KS1 and earlier)
Of course if the business does well what they could do becomes bigger
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2013/10/14 20:12:59
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2; New "The Sweet Spot" Reward!
Don't know how they'll do it. But if it's going to take them around a year to fully ship this ks, I don't know if I can see them doing normal releases before fulfilling these orders. And by then there may be a 3rd ks. Don't know, but I don't think I'd expect anything for a while.
More than happy to be proved wrong though. You're right, though. Sometimes you do wonder how these things ever used to be done.
Its possible. Look at the "You're their descendant" pledge level - £2,000 for concept art and miniature sculpting. I'd use that as the price for the developing and putting into production the average human. So a five man unit probably costs the best part of £10,000. It's a big figure, and they'd need to make some decent profit. Getting more retailers on board will help, but that takes time.
Building the game and community up is probably one of the best approaches they can take at the moment. One thing that would help them is if they produced demo packs for retailers and fans alike - something that they can use to build interest.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh look - more concepts. The Knife Drunes are laid out:
Also, we've now passed the KS1 final total!
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2013/10/15 06:08:58
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2; New "The Sweet Spot" Reward!
I'm hoping to see 130k at least as that would cover infantry for my three factions.
Those Scout Drunes being unlocked would make it very hard for me I avoid Ysians though...
2013/10/15 06:31:35
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2; New "The Sweet Spot" Reward!
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
2013/10/15 07:27:05
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
£110,000 has been scorched into submission thanks to the wallets and purses of many backers and their feverish owners pledging like mad pledging things - which means all you Byzantii lovers are in clover. The Legionary Contunbernium will be produced!
That, of course, means that we can unveil the next stretch goal, and what a stretch goal it is. Seza is the first Abhorrent for the Ysians, a three-legged monstrosity of blade and hoof and female parts married to an intelligence far beyond that of the mere Brutes that she leads. It can truly be said that the Flesh-Drunes and Harvest-Drunes are insane!
Seza is a monstrous commander and will stand on a 60mm base. She'll be around 60mm tall to the eye, so she's pretty tall and well able to look other monstrous infantry in the eye - before chopping their heads off, of course!
As it states above, Seza is FREE to any backer that has pledged for the "DARKLANDS, UHTRED & NOBLES" or "YOU'RE THEIR DESCENDANT" rewards, and a little bit cheaper for anybody who has pledged for the "DARKLANDS & UHTRED", "DARKLANDS & UHTRED, EARLIER" or "THE SWEET SPOT" rewards; increase your pledge by £20 if you've chosen the latter two rewards, and by £25 to get her if you've chosen any other reward!
2013/10/15 12:00:31
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
Good to see there are still a healthy number of "counts as" models in the range, whether by accident or design. I will no doubt be acquiring Seza as a Slaaneshi DP for my 40K army, even though I don't intend to collect Ysians. As much as I like the aesthetic and quality if the minis, having one eye on their utility in other systems isn't a bad idea!
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I know she's "set" at £135,000, but you may as well add her to your pledge if you want her, because we'll be making her regardless! She's just too awesome not to.
Talking about Seza above, he's also clarified that this is the only mini that will make it if not funded by the KS (She's a personal favourite and they can't afford to do the same for any others)
2013/10/15 14:50:30
Subject: Re:Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
Well that's a pledge upgrade then to go with the Ysian Skirmish Host and character bonanza I've already got pledged
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2013/10/15 15:31:01
Subject: Re:Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
I wish those Angelcynn hosts had been announced a touch earlier!
I just bought a lot of those minis a few days ago!
Project Update #24: More Encounter and Skirmish Hosts...
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It's time to unveil a couple of new Encounter and Skirmish Hosts, both for the Angelcynn, and both available now - i.e., there's no need to unlock them, so pledge away!
The main reason we didn't do these before was simply because of the lack of artwork for the Werwulfas; it looks like we still won't get that before the end of the Kickstarter, but we'll put these on here anyway.
So, here's the new Encounter Hosts...
The above encounter hosts can of course be selected within a "THE SWEET SPOT" reward.
Here's the new Skirmish Hosts too!
These hosts can be added to other rewards simply by increasing your pledge level by the relevant amount, of course.
2013/10/15 15:37:46
Subject: Re:Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
Bah, upped my pledge as I was going to get the five guys in the Drydraig unit anyway, this way I get the commander for free by getting the Encounter host.
2013/10/15 15:53:48
Subject: Re:Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
It has already been covered, and yes, the pledge manager will be staying open, alongside access to existing product at 20% off.
Re boobs - I think they look entirely more feasible than on the Melusines, and at least they have justified it in the fluff!
(Never understand boob based objections anyway)
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Bossk_Hogg wrote: Anyone know if they are having the pledge manager open after this ends? I cant do much now, but would add on later. Thanks!
Also, boo on those Melisune fake boobs on Seza.
Yes you will be able to add cash later
basically your pledge will be turned into credit in their webstore with a special section visible only to KS2 backers where you can spend it on items a t KS2 prices,
you'll also be able to spend more by CC at the same time. If it runs like KS1 everything will remain available to you at the KS2 prices until it hits retail
so pledge what you can now and add later
if you can stretch to the Darklands + Uhtred level that gives you the rule book + the KS limited edition Uhtred mini + freebie Finnian mini for £30 (+ shipping if needed)
You will need to pledge at the £10 level at the very minimum though (otherwise KS don't pass on your details)
2013/10/15 16:35:30
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2; New "The Sweet Spot" Reward!
Fenriswulf wrote: I had to drop out unfortunately. Things are tight for me at the moment, and as much as I would like some of their stuff, I will have to bow out for now.
If the Ysian horsemen had of made it, or Albainn monstrous Ogre types, I would have considered selling a kidney. Thankfully for me that is likely to be for the next kickstarter.
I understand if you're money is tight. But just if you weren't aware, if you could manage to stay in with the £30 pledge (even the £10 pledge, I think), the pledge manager will stay open for a good long while I believe, allowing you to add later if you manage to stumble on some spare cash in a few months. Backers will also get a good discount (around 20%) on the rest of their range for a while also. Worth considering, just for the savings if you're thinking of picking stuff up at some point in the future. Obviously I respect your position, it was just incase you weren't aware of the discounts on their whole range for ks backers.
Yeah I know how much of a discount can be had, I just don't have the cash on hand to do it. Especially not after today when a graphics card given to me so I could have an upgrade fried itself and took my motherboard and most likely the processor out with it. If it's taken out other parts I am even more screwed.
Perhaps pulling out was fated. Was in for around £130 but there's no way I can stretch that, not now. I'll keep an eye out for the next one for sure. Will have to pick up Crom, Finnian, Bagseg and Zethag some other time.
2013/10/15 17:10:43
Subject: Re:Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
Will I get hit with that 10 pound shipping every time I want to add something to my order?
I'm in for the rules at the moment, but would happily add a few figures post campaign.
Can I just keep adding figures to one order that keeps growing larger and larger, and just pay the one shipping fee?
I want the Brythoniaid monstrous commander, and a few other random Khthon pieces. Can I add a new piece every week to my order?
Not sure how KS2 will work but with KS1 I got free shipping with every 50gbp I spent, so I would get chunks of shipments containing my orders. (but I did spend a billion dollars or so)
I did pay for shipping once or twice for a "send what's available now" option.
I see
Royal Mail Airsure or International Signed For*: £10.00 per package
which is probably the 10gbp thing. They might be upping their fulfillment to that as a minimum due to some packages getting annihilated with the standard free slow shipping option.
Either way they did allow orders to build up, at least in my case.
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2013/10/15 17:49:56
Subject: Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
Shipment Wave 0: before 2014/early 2014, depending on how many orders there are. This shipment wave will only happen if you pay extra to ship miniatures that are already available from our back catalogue when you manage your pledge. Malacant would also be included with this shipment if you pay extra to have him shipped in December 2014.
Shipment Wave 1: June 2014. This shipment wave will include the rulebook, concept art book, Uhtred, Finnan, Danilo Cruz, all of the Noble miniatures, Malacant and Mag ap Mag.
Shipment Wave 2: August 2014. Cnebba, Holumenn unit, Djiuzu, Legionary Contubernium, Praach, Broga, Gabrax unit so far.
Shipment Wave 3: October 2014. Gesíthas unit.
£10 will get you everything shipped with the last items on your order,
you can add £10 to get shipping in any extra waves of your choice getting everything cast up to that point
(and if you added existing items, later on they'd be slotted in with your next delivery)
so one wave £10, 2 waves £20, 3 waves £30 or all 4 waves £40
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2013/10/15 18:48:11
Subject: Re:Mierce Miniatures - Darklands Kickstarter 2 - Three Days to Go!
Post from Ryan Smith on the KS (not me) Hopefully this gets some of you on the fence to cross over!
two days left to go! Keep spreading the news, referring your friends, and letting everyone know just how awesome these miniatures are! We’ve unlocked the Byzantii as of this morning, and the Gesithas are right over the horizon!
For those who are counting, if we unlock everything that’s been announced, that’s seven mounted models (£30 each), 33 infantry models (£10 each), and 12 monstrous infantry models (3 at £25, 9 at 30, and 2 at £40), plus Seza (who’s not on there yet) at another £25, plus the rulebook. At Kickstarter prices, that’s £1,025. At retail, it’s even more (~£1,200) – that’s a 41% discount!
So, now that I’ve talked myself into the Nobles pledge, what else can you show a new backer to try to convince them?
£115,000 – Praach, Braying Gabrox. A bigger Gabrax.
- Part of an £80 rumored Fomoraic Encounter Host (Brunchaath, 10 Gabrax, and a Gabrox)
- £25 for all backers
- Will stand on a 60mm base and will be around 50mm tall to the eye
- http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/ks2/gabrox.jpg
£125,000 - Broga, an Angelcynn monstrous commander who's a wereofor (a were-boar).
- Free for Nobles pledgers
- £25 for CAPS pledgers
- £30 for everyone else
- http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/ks2/broga.jpg - The Angelcynn Skirmish host will have Eadric, Cynemon, 10x Duguth, 5 Werewulfas, and a Guthwulf for £180.
- The Angelcynn Encounter host will have Cearl and 5 Werewulfas for £80.
£135,000 Ysian Seza.
- Blade-Abhorrent for the Ysians
- Free for Nobles, £20 to CAPS backers, £25 for everyone else.
- Mierce has stated that she’s getting made even if her goal isn’t met, but it will be, because we have to unlock the Teulu!
- Anatomically correct, and Mierce made a point to remind us all that she’s got three loincloths.
- http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/ks2/stretch_goals_135000_seza.jpg
[Level Unknown] Albiann Gaimorlom, veteran spearmen.
- £30 for 5 warriors with command, £55 for 10 warriors with command, £30 for 5 warriors without command.
[Level Unknown] Gomagg, an Albiann Giant
- On a 120mm base; will be 160mm to his eye (and thus taller than Krull or Mjagnir).
- Price estimated (but not confirmed) about £70 (Retail of £80).
- http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/ks2/gomagg.jpg
For those who are counting, if we unlock everything that’s been announced, that’s seven mounted models (£30 each), 33 infantry models (£10 each), and 12 monstrous infantry models (3 at £25, 9 at 30, and 2 at £40), plus Seza (who’s not on there yet) at another £25, plus the rulebook. At Kickstarter prices, that’s £1,025. At retail, it’s even more (~£1,200) – that’s a 41% discount!
So, now that I’ve talked myself into the Nobles pledge, what else can you show a new backer to try to convince them?
primalexile wrote: Post from Ryan Smith on the KS (not me) Hopefully this gets some of you on the fence to cross over!
Er, yea. That's me.
Also, the Teulu are listed as (hopefully) for £140,000 because there is currently a poll on the Comments section for the backers between the Teulu and the Gorgorars being the £140,000 goal. The poll is open until the project reaches £115,000. To vote, just post which of the two you'd like it to be.
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Currently 200pts 
. BaneBeasts was amazing at this prior to Mierce! So, I hope their only new releases are not from kickstarters from here on out, I'd love to see some normal releases too.
