Troll Forged Kickstarter - Assimilation Alien Host - Dreadnought masters page 26

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**Commander Cain**

Trodax wrote:
Commander Cain wrote:
Queen level is becoming far too tempting. Might have to change my pledges around although I will have to figure out how to do so whole still remaining as one of the first 200 backers'

You can just change; that won't affect you being one of the first 200. I upgraded from Host to Queen myself a couple of days ago; Host is a really good deal for $50, but I'm definitely going to be wanting that Drone and Overlord so I just upgraded.
Plus, getting scenic bases for all the minis for $35 is a big bonus for Queen.

Perfect! Thanks for the info.

Might have to go the scenic base route myself as well, those alien ones look very promising.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Fenriswulf wrote:
So I would like to pledge for the two Dreadnoughts (I know it will hit the pledge level that unlocks them) for $45, plus 1 hound miniature for $4, plus whatever International shipping is.

How do I achieve this? Do I have to pledge to a specific level and then add them on afterwards, or can I just buy them separately? If I need to pledge, is the $5 pledge a good enough buy in?

Let me know as I want two of those Dread and the hound! Cheers!

Buy in at the $5 level + $4 for international shipping, then add the $45 for the dreadnaught (as an addon only it's shipping is covered in it's cost) and $4 for the hound

total $58 (You could probably trade in your grub for $1 off, but at that price you might as well get it, if you do want to check with Ed using the contact function)

**Trodax**

Fenriswulf wrote:
So I would like to pledge for the two Dreadnoughts (I know it will hit the pledge level that unlocks them) for $45, plus 1 hound miniature for $4, plus whatever International shipping is.

How do I achieve this? Do I have to pledge to a specific level and then add them on afterwards, or can I just buy them separately? If I need to pledge, is the $5 pledge a good enough buy in?

Let me know as I want two of those Dread and the hound! Cheers!

You are allowed to trade in miniatures that you don't want for others; this makes for a very, very good deal. The best thing for you to do would most likely be to pledge for a Host level pledge at $50 plus $8 international shipping (just put in $58 as your pledged amount and choose Host Level as your reward selection). You can check here what you'll be getting with a Host level pledge (this will be updated continuously) and what those miniatures are worth for trading in (the add-on price). The Host level already gets you the hound that you want, and you could for example trade the Fiend ($20), 13 grubs ($13) and 6 swarm adults ($12) for the double dreadnought deal.

Eh... at least I'm pretty sure that this is allowed; could someone else confirm? (You can always also do what OrlandotheTechnicoloured suggested above.)

**Fenriswulf**

And $2 for each additional item? Not sure if I am giving enough cash to cover shipping, but I will contact Ed in any case.

Think I might splurge and go for the bases instead, not to be a complete cheapskate.

Cheers!

Edit: Wow, ok, multiple options. Would love to know if this is the way to go. Not looking to rip him off in any way, just looking for the best method of doing this.

**Trodax**

Fenriswulf wrote:
Edit: Wow, ok, multiple options. Would love to know if this is the way to go.

I'm pretty certain that it is, but it's such an incredibly generous deal that it makes me... uncertain.

You can always pledge for something and then ask in the comments section of the Kickstarter, you get answers pretty quick there (and you can always change your pledge afterwards, even drop it completely if nothing suits you).

**Fenriswulf**

Ok, got this reply in;

"the trade value for 2 dreads with a host should be rather easy shortly. The queen, and wyrm will put you close already. drop a few grub and you would have it. Go higher in the stretch goals and it would be rather easy.

We just need more backers and the thing will be good to go."

So I am guessing this is an insanely good deal? Not sure where I go to determine what the trade in value of the miniatures is, anyone able to point me in the right direction?

Might see if I can't angle it to drop off down to 1 miniature of the Grub Worm, Swarm Adult and Hosts and make up the difference in cash. Will need to find out their trade value.

And yeah, Ed seems to be going above and beyond for this kickstarter. Wish it was making more cash, he is giving awesome deals left right and centre.

**Malika2**

Ed tends to be rather generous, I remember he used to send most people who ordered from him extra bits and figures when they bought stuff from Troll Forged Miniatures. A while ago he sent me a big pack of greenstuff as a present.

I know with many companies you grow wary when they give you stuff, but with Ed that has never been the case. :-)

**Trodax**

Fenriswulf wrote:
So I am guessing this is an insanely good deal? Not sure where I go to determine what the trade in value of the miniatures is, anyone able to point me in the right direction?.

I linked to the TFM blog above where you have all the prices summarized (I'm on my phone, can't link handily).

**Casey's Law**

After all that did no one need this?!

Casey's Law wrote:

Spoiler:

Quantity of model
[Force organization category] Maximum quantity of listing (number of units x number of listing within groups + number left over to be squeezed in) = Points for listing
NB. Please note.

43 Grubs
[Troops] 43 Termagants (4x10/2x20 +3) = 215pts
[Troops] 43 Hormagaunts (4x10/2x20 +3) = 258pts
NB. If you are taking a Tervigon then you should hold back some Grubs to use as spawning 'gants. Although the 'gaunts are most appropriate because they don't have a ranged attack, 'gants with Devourers(+5pts each) are considered one of the better troops choices.

1 Limited Edition Grub
[Elites] 1 Zoanthrope = 60pts
[Elites] The Doom Of Malan'tai = 90pts
[Fast Attack] 1 Ravener = 30pts
NB. If you want to use this Grub as a Ravener you'll have to get some more of them as you need a minimum of 3 for each unit. If i was taking Zoanthropes i'd want at least three at this points level i think so i'd consider getting more of these for both of these choices.

15 Swarm Adults
[HQ] 2 Tyranid Primes = 160pts
[HQ+] 6 Tyrant Guard (2x3) = 360pts
[Troops] 15 Tyranid Warriors (5x3/3x5) = 450pts
NB. You can only take 1-3 Tyrant Guard for each Hive Tyrant you have Included.

15 Swarm Warriors
[HQ] 2 Tyranid Primes = 160pts
[Elites] 9 Hive Guard (3x3) = 450pts
[Troops] 15 Tyranid Warriors (5x3/3x5) = 450pts

5 Stealth Swarm Adults
[HQ] 2 Tyranid Primes = 160pts
[Elites] 5 Lictors (2x2 +1) = 325pts
[Elites] 1 Deathleaper = 140pts
[Elites] 5 Ymgarl Genestealers (1x5) = 115pts
[Troops] 5 Tyranid Warriors (1x5) = 150pts
[Troops] 5 Genestealers (1x5) = 70pts

15 Hosts + 1 Limited Edition Host
[HQ] 2 Tyranid Primes = 160pts
[HQ+] 6 Tyrant Guard (2x3) = 360pts
[Troops] 16 Tyranid Warriors (5x3/3x5 +1) = 480pts
NB. You can only take 1-3 Tyrant Guard for each Hive Tyrant you have Included.

5 Hounds
[Elites] 5 Ymgarl Genestealers (1x5) = 115pts
[Troops] 5 Genestealers (1x5) = 70pts
[Fast Attack] 5 Raveners (1x5) = 150pts

3 Sky Hunters
[HQ] The Parasite Of Mortrex = 160pts
[Elites] 3 Zoanthropes = 180pts
[Elites] The Doom Of Malan'tai = 90pts
[Fast Attack] 3 Tyranid Shrikes (1x3) = 105pts
[Fast Attack] 3 Harpy = 480pts
NB. Considering we only get 3 of these they probably size up somewhere in between a Shrike and Harpy so you might be able to go either way.

5 Larvae Swarm
[Troops] 5 Ripper Swarms (1x5) = 50pts

1 Queen
[HQ] Hive Tyrant = 170pts
[HQ] Swarmlord = 280pts
[HQ/Troops] Tervigon = 160pts
NB. Size-wise the Queen sounds like it might struggle to match the Tervigon but we haven't seen a green yet.

1 Wyrm
[Heavy Support] Trygon = 200pts
[Heavy Support] Trygon Prime = 240pts
[Heavy Support] Mawloc = 170pts

1 Fiend
[HQ/Troops] Tervigon = 160pts
[Heavy Support] Carnifex = 160pts
[Heavy Support] Tyrannofex = 250pts
NB. Size-wise the Fiend sounds like it might be too big to pass as a Carnifex and it doesn't have a ranged weapon in the art so it might be hard to call it a Tyrannofex.

1 Drone
[HQ/Troops] Tervigon = 160pts
[Heavy Support] Carnifex = 160pts
[Heavy Support] Tyrannofex = 250pts
NB. Size-wise the Fiend sounds like it might be too big to pass as a Carnifex and it doesn't have a ranged weapon in the art so it might be hard to call it a Tyrannofex.

1 Swarm Master
[HQ] Hive Tyrant = 170pts
[HQ] Swarmlord = 280pts
[Heavy Support] Carnifex = 160pts

1 Overlord
[HQ] Winged Hive Tyrant = 230pts
[HQ] The Parasite Of Mortrex = 160pts
[Fast Attack] Harpy = 160pts

The Overlord looks great but i'll probably head swap it for my purposes.

**Fenriswulf**

Trodax wrote:
Fenriswulf wrote:
So I am guessing this is an insanely good deal? Not sure where I go to determine what the trade in value of the miniatures is, anyone able to point me in the right direction?.

I linked to the TFM blog above where you have all the prices summarized (I'm on my phone, can't link handily).

Cheers for that!

Will drop down to one of each and add $21 to cover the extra for the Dreadnoughts. If it's any more I will add it at the end.

Looking forward to this!

**Malika2**

Here is some concept art of the Overlord

**RiTides**

Love the Overlord!

And Host or Queen are definitely the sweet spots! Queen of you want the huge Drone and Overlord.

I asked Ed to put the add-on cost link on the KS page. On my phone now, but I thought hounds were $3 add-ons now, not $4?

**Fenriswulf**

Yeah they are from the page. Hadn't noticed that until I went through everything.

**DaveC**

New Base previews

Cobblestone with step:

Spiral Stair

Cobblestone

Cobblestone with Grate

Tiled Floor

Brian is working on more and should have them later today. By his own admission these are a bit rough in places but he has very little time left to get examples cast and painted before the KS ends.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

This link is the best place to check the values of each type (and what you get) as it changes on each stretch

http://trollforged.wordpress.com/kickstarter-stretch-goal-table/

Hmm I may need to upgrade and start trading in too

**BobtheInquisitor**

Cthulhu wants a tail. [/Walken]

That Overlord is one gorgeous beast. How much is it, again?

Reaper better look out. There's a new Cthulhu in town, and the stars are looking mighty right.

**DaveC**

$30 to add it to any pledge level or $45 (plus $10 shipping if appropriate) if you just want it on it's own.

**Casey's Law**

Anyone got any ideas what i could run the Queen pledge as with the Chaos Daemon 'dex and CSMs as allies? Emphasis on Nurgle.

**Charax**

Swapping 15 Grubs for an Egg Nest sounds like a plan. No force on earth will make me paint 43 grubs

**ghosty**

Pledged

I opted for the Host level, simply because it comes with all the miniatures I'd need, but it's also a manageable price, which is good for someone like me, a student.

Now, about this swappy swappy milarky, Am I right in saying I'm only getting a single Sky Hunter and Hound? Is there any way for me to rectify this? (I'm a bit OCD about this kinda thing, the minimum unit size has gotta be 3)

**DaveC**

Extra hounds will cost you $3 each and extra flyers cost $6 each so you need to find $18.

If you only have a budget of $50 trade in the limited edition Grub and Host for $12 credit, 2 Grubs for $2 and 2 Swarm Adults for $4 or some combination there of. Nice and all as it is to have limited edition minis the trade in value is to good to ignore.

**RiTides**

DaveC wrote:
$30 to add it to any pledge level or $45 (plus $10 shipping if appropriate) if you just want it on it's own.

Or free with Queen pledge

Casey- Lots of possibilities, the Overlord as a Greater Daemon seems to be a no brainer

. Cthulu would be pleased.

**Casey's Law**

Aha yeh, i'll probs just wait until i pick up the 'dex.

**Trodax**

Couldn't those Dreadnoughts fit nicely in a Nurgle army? Just equip them with the most vicious looking of the arm options (claw, saw, drill, flamer), paint them all rusted and weathered and slime em up a bit. No?

**Casey's Law**

Yeh most likely, i'm probably not going to add anything to the Queen pledge at this stage though.

**Trodax**

Just another thought on Nurgle armies; there is potential to get absolute hordes of Host minis as they are only a $1 add-on. If you traded everything from a Host level pledge ($50) into host minis you would, at the moment, end up with 91 hosts. To use as cultists, plague zombies, or something, I'm thinking.

**ghosty**

Man do I love the Host miniatures, they seem so Dead Space, so unsettling.

**Casey's Law**

I hope there is one final boost in the next day to get us to 36!

Tell everyone!

**RiTides**

We blasted through 30K and 300 backers! I think we will make 36K easily at this rate.

**Casey's Law**

I sure hope so!

P.S. Had a chat with Ed yesterday on facebook, he's a genuinely lovely guy if you didn't know already!