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 daedalus wrote:
Step 1: Dress up to attract attention around unattractive people who characteristically have problems with social interaction, ESPECIALLY with women.

Step 2: Act surprised and outraged. Alert the media, because step 1 was still not enough attention.
Dude, no.

First, even attractive women can like comic books. Second, cosplay necessarily entails histrionic or narcissistic motives to the same extent that table top gaming necessarily entails paraphilic infantilism -- i.e., not at all.

Since you are well down the path of objectification, I don't mind using this example: Let's say you have a GD-quality army for 40k or Fantasy on display at a con and some dude comes over and starts fondling your models. I guess you had it coming since you only brought that army out in public to get attention. Now, imagine we're not talking about pieces of plastic pretty much entirely disassociated from you and that same douche from the hypothetical started treating your person like an attractive toy.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/22 15:27:53


   
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 Manchu wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
Step 1: Dress up to attract attention around unattractive people who characteristically have problems with social interaction, ESPECIALLY with women.

Step 2: Act surprised and outraged. Alert the media, because step 1 was still not enough attention.
Dude, no.

First, even attractive women can like comic books. Second, cosplay necessarily entails histrionic or narcissistic motives to the same extent that table top gaming necessarily entails paraphilic infantilism -- i.e., not at all.

Since you are well down the path of objectification, I don't mind using this example: Let's say you have a GD-quality army for 40k or Fantasy on display at a con and some dude comes over and starts fondling your models. I guess you had it coming since you only brought that army out in public to get attention. Now, imagine we're not talking about pieces of plastic pretty much entirely disassociated from you and that same douche from the hypothetical started treating your person like an attractive toy.


Just saying, but if you do not want to be seen as a sex object, then why dress as one.
If you don't want that attention, then why dress up in tight latex with cleavege? That's asking for such situations.
I'm smart enough to not get a delicious lollypop from that man in that bus, and so should she be.

   
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Tibbsy wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
Tibbsy wrote:

Querere victima according to Google translate... Which may or may not be incorrect.


How did we, in the span of 10 seconds or so, get different results for that?


Haven't a fething clue

Blame Google.

EDIT: Just tested it, I capitalised the B in blame, and it changed... I got the same result as the rest of you without a capital B. Odd...

well literally culpa bit victimia would be "fault of the victim" like mea culpa is "my fault" capitalizing it may actually make the word literally blame; a word I do not know in latin.

 Avatar 720 wrote:
You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.

Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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 thenoobbomb wrote:
Just saying, but if you do not want to be seen as a sex object, then why dress as one.
The underlying assumption here seems to be that "attractive woman in tight clothing = sex object." You're not really stating a counterargument so much as restating the initial problem.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
First, even attractive women can like comic books.




It is as if my whole world is falling apart.

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North of your position

 Manchu wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Just saying, but if you do not want to be seen as a sex object, then why dress as one.
The underlying assumption here seems to be that "attractive woman in tight clothing = sex object." You're not really stating a counterargument so much as restating the initial problem.

How am I supposed to see someone in tight latex with cleavege and all?
What is it then?
Someone just wanting to have fun by dressing up near naked?
Spoiler:

That's obviously not meant to look hot.




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 Ahtman wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
First, even attractive women can like comic books.




It is as if my whole world is falling apart.

Indeed.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/22 15:37:14


   
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 Manchu wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
Step 1: Dress up to attract attention around unattractive people who characteristically have problems with social interaction, ESPECIALLY with women.

Step 2: Act surprised and outraged. Alert the media, because step 1 was still not enough attention.
Dude, no.

First, even attractive women can like comic books. Second, cosplay necessarily entails histrionic or narcissistic motives to the same extent that table top gaming necessarily entails paraphilic infantilism -- i.e., not at all.

Since you are well down the path of objectification, I don't mind using this example: Let's say you have a GD-quality army for 40k or Fantasy on display at a con and some dude comes over and starts fondling your models. I guess you had it coming since you only brought that army out in public to get attention. Now, imagine we're not talking about pieces of plastic pretty much entirely disassociated from you and that same douche from the hypothetical started treating your person like an attractive toy.


Stop harassing me! I just want to buy some cheese and some butter in my totally normal grocery store attire.

I enjoy comic books and came to comiccon not dressed as a whore.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/22 15:39:29


 Avatar 720 wrote:
You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.

Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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 Manchu wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Just saying, but if you do not want to be seen as a sex object, then why dress as one.
The underlying assumption here seems to be that "attractive woman in tight clothing = sex object." You're not really stating a counterargument so much as restating the initial problem.


I say she simply didn't have the foresight to just guess what would happen if she took that costume to the Convention.
I mean... WHO could have predicted such a reaction from such a crowd?

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 AustonT wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
Step 1: Dress up to attract attention around unattractive people who characteristically have problems with social interaction, ESPECIALLY with women.

Step 2: Act surprised and outraged. Alert the media, because step 1 was still not enough attention.
Dude, no.

First, even attractive women can like comic books. Second, cosplay necessarily entails histrionic or narcissistic motives to the same extent that table top gaming necessarily entails paraphilic infantilism -- i.e., not at all.

Since you are well down the path of objectification, I don't mind using this example: Let's say you have a GD-quality army for 40k or Fantasy on display at a con and some dude comes over and starts fondling your models. I guess you had it coming since you only brought that army out in public to get attention. Now, imagine we're not talking about pieces of plastic pretty much entirely disassociated from you and that same douche from the hypothetical started treating your person like an attractive toy.

Spoiler:

Stop harassing me! I just want to buy some cheese and some butter in my totally normal grocery store attire.

I enjoy comic books and came to comiccon not dressed as a whore.



Off-topic, but the second girl is way cuter than the first.
   
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 Yojiro wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Just saying, but if you do not want to be seen as a sex object, then why dress as one.
The underlying assumption here seems to be that "attractive woman in tight clothing = sex object." You're not really stating a counterargument so much as restating the initial problem.


I say she simply didn't have the foresight to just guess what would happen if she took that costume to the Convention.
I mean... WHO could have predicted such a reaction from such a crowd?

Nobody ofcourse. Sure, I'd not have expected such comments either, but well, you know what you will be seen as.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 d-usa wrote:
 AustonT wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
Step 1: Dress up to attract attention around unattractive people who characteristically have problems with social interaction, ESPECIALLY with women.

Step 2: Act surprised and outraged. Alert the media, because step 1 was still not enough attention.
Dude, no.

First, even attractive women can like comic books. Second, cosplay necessarily entails histrionic or narcissistic motives to the same extent that table top gaming necessarily entails paraphilic infantilism -- i.e., not at all.

Since you are well down the path of objectification, I don't mind using this example: Let's say you have a GD-quality army for 40k or Fantasy on display at a con and some dude comes over and starts fondling your models. I guess you had it coming since you only brought that army out in public to get attention. Now, imagine we're not talking about pieces of plastic pretty much entirely disassociated from you and that same douche from the hypothetical started treating your person like an attractive toy.

Spoiler:

Stop harassing me! I just want to buy some cheese and some butter in my totally normal grocery store attire.

I enjoy comic books and came to comiccon not dressed as a whore.



Off-topic, but the second girl is way cuter than the first.

And more normal.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/22 15:41:40


   
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d-usa wrote:
 AustonT wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
 daedalus wrote:
Step 1: Dress up to attract attention around unattractive people who characteristically have problems with social interaction, ESPECIALLY with women.

Step 2: Act surprised and outraged. Alert the media, because step 1 was still not enough attention.
Dude, no.

First, even attractive women can like comic books. Second, cosplay necessarily entails histrionic or narcissistic motives to the same extent that table top gaming necessarily entails paraphilic infantilism -- i.e., not at all.

Since you are well down the path of objectification, I don't mind using this example: Let's say you have a GD-quality army for 40k or Fantasy on display at a con and some dude comes over and starts fondling your models. I guess you had it coming since you only brought that army out in public to get attention. Now, imagine we're not talking about pieces of plastic pretty much entirely disassociated from you and that same douche from the hypothetical started treating your person like an attractive toy.

Spoiler:

Stop harassing me! I just want to buy some cheese and some butter in my totally normal grocery store attire.

I enjoy comic books and came to comiccon not dressed as a whore.



Off-topic, but the second girl is way cuter than the first.

yeah that was kind of intentional.

 Avatar 720 wrote:
You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.

Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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 Manchu wrote:

Since you are well down the path of objectification, I don't mind using this example: Let's say you have a GD-quality army for 40k or Fantasy on display at a con and some dude comes over and starts fondling your models. I guess you had it coming since you only brought that army out in public to get attention. Now, imagine we're not talking about pieces of plastic pretty much entirely disassociated from you and that same douche from the hypothetical started treating your person like an attractive toy.


I'm not saying it's right. Frankly, it disgusts me. There's a lot of things with 'nerd culture' which disgust me however.

I'm just stating what is reality, right or wrong, and remaining completely surprised at how anyone could be outraged by this as if it's just now hit the light of day.

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You don't hear sailor moon complaining about being harassed.

Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
 
   
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North of your position

Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:

   
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UK

d-usa wrote:
Off-topic, but the second girl is way cuter than the first.


No way is that second bird nicer than the first!

Although, after my Victorias Secret thread, Its safe to say I think most of you fethers have no taste in women.

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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.  
   
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 mattyrm wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Off-topic, but the second girl is way cuter than the first.


No way is that second bird nicer than the first!

Although, after my Victorias Secret thread, Its safe to say I think most of you fethers have no taste in women.

Cuter is different then hotter

Plus, the first looks like she has had 10kg of plastic pushed in her..

   
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 thenoobbomb wrote:
Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:


I want to sexually harass her with my penis.

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North of your position

 kronk wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:


I want to sexually harass her with my penis.

Me too.
Hence the carrots.

   
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 mattyrm wrote:
Although, after my Victorias Secret thread, Its safe to say I have no taste in women.


There you go.

Something tells me the Imperial Armorer is having a spot of fun with this recruit.

Spoiler:

Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
 
   
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Probably work

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:


I am daedalus, and I support this message.

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 thenoobbomb wrote:
 mattyrm wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Off-topic, but the second girl is way cuter than the first.


No way is that second bird nicer than the first!

Although, after my Victorias Secret thread, Its safe to say I think most of you fethers have no taste in women.

Cuter is different then hotter

Plus, the first looks like she has had 10kg of plastic pushed in her..


Cute is more beautiful than "hot".
   
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kronk wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:


I want to sexually harass her with my penis.

+1
Exactly what super hero is that again?

 Avatar 720 wrote:
You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.

Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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 AustonT wrote:
kronk wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:


I want to sexually harass her with my penis.

+1
Exactly what super hero is that again?


...does it even matter?

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North of your position

 AustonT wrote:
kronk wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:


I want to sexually harass her with my penis.

+1
Exactly what super hero is that again?

Carrot-buy girl, the sex-free super hero!

   
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Montreal

Boooobs.


That is all.

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 Yojiro wrote:
 AustonT wrote:
kronk wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:


I want to sexually harass her with my penis.

+1
Exactly what super hero is that again?


...does it even matter?

How do I know she's a comic fan if its not from a comic book?
I don't really care I'd love to see her wiggle.

 Avatar 720 wrote:
You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.

Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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 AustonT wrote:

Exactly what super hero is that again?


Venture Brothers character Molotov Cocktease.



Which of course leads us to Dr. Girlfriend.


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 AustonT wrote:
Stop harassing me! I just want to buy some cheese and some butter in my totally normal grocery store attire.
 AustonT wrote:
I enjoy comic books and came to comiccon not dressed as a whore.
These are pretty poor substitutes for an actual argument about why what a woman wears in any given situation justifies otherwise degrading behavior on the part of people interacting with her.

So could you please get down to brass tacks and tell me why you really think its okay to sexually harass women based on how they're dressed? I'm asking in good faith as I don't want to just assume that your thought on this matter really only goes as far as "whores should be treated like whores."

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 Ahtman wrote:
 AustonT wrote:

Exactly what super hero is that again?


Venture Brothers character Molotov Cocktease.




Wow, that chick has that spot on.

 Avatar 720 wrote:
You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.

Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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Linho, Sintra

 AustonT wrote:
 Yojiro wrote:
 AustonT wrote:
kronk wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
Let's buy carrots!
Spoiler:


I want to sexually harass her with my penis.

+1
Exactly what super hero is that again?


...does it even matter?

How do I know she's a comic fan if its not from a comic book?
I don't really care I'd love to see her wiggle.


Allow me...

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
Boooobs.

That is all.

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