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MeanGreenStompa wrote: Changing perceptions and attitudes towards women and their treatment by men have been rapidly ongoing throughout the last century.
The masses define reality, if the masses decide that this is not acceptable, it will become more fringe and frowned upon.
And I'm sure some people thought racism would go away forever 20 or 30 years ago. Yet we still have racists in the world. Some things never go away. We can either accept that that's just the way things are, or spend over a dozen pages on the internet talking about it... Or both...
Are you saying that we should just expect bad things, if we can't 100% magically get rid of them?
You want us to accept racists, because they aren't going away?
What about murderers? There will always be murder. Or rapists? There will always be rape.
LoneLictor wrote: Are you saying that we should just expect bad things, if we can't 100% magically get rid of them?
You want us to accept racists, because they aren't going away?
What about murderers? There will always be murder. Or rapists? There will always be rape.
Seriously man, that is some weak logic.
Because equating typical douche baggery to rape, murder, kidnapping, and various other legally recognized felonies is completely logically valid.
Typically, if something isn't against the law. Some people will probably do it. Somewhere. Ignoring that racism actually is legally protected, to the extent that free speech is interpreted to allow it.
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That fact that anyone is using the language "she dressed like a whore" shows an innate lack of respect, even if it isn't expressed blatantly in front of said person. Short of being a nun, what the hell does it matter how anyone dresses? Old men get boners rather easily apparently.
@AustonT: Yeah, I was gonna use a picture of Carano, but I decided to use GSP instead for the lulz. Anyway, I'd love to hear what you have to say about the point I was making.
CDK wrote: I haven't read the whole thread to be honest. But I am a long time comic fan and thought I'd share my thoughts.
To me it comes down to "Dress how you want to be treated". Inappropriate behavior is GOING to happen. In fact, expect it to happen. So, dress like a whore = get treated like a whore. Some guys will not do it but some will. Expect it to happen though. Don't be shocked by it when you know perfectly well guys are going to look at your chest rather than anything else. Is it right behavior? No of course not. But society has not changed much over the years and it's not going to change soon. If you really don't want the attention or comments that maybe you should dress up as a character from "Little House on the Prairie."
I was not aware that comic book female heroines are whores.
No, but many of them dress like one. Or at least like a Stripper.
Is it fair therefore to suppose that CDK's argument is that the woman was dressed as a whore, not as a comic book character, and therefore the men were entitled to treat her as a whore.
(There is a separate argument about how whores are entitled to be treated, of course.)
Then that is doubly wrong, as the woman in question was not dressed as a whore; she was dressed as the Black Cat, ipso facto.
I guess maybe I missed the point you were trying to make. Most MMA fighters choose loose fitting shorts with high cuts in favor of tight fits. Most of the reason a top isn't worn has to do with the rules of UFC post Gracie(spelled Brazilian ). A loose top can easily be used as a weapon or as a tool to evade.
What you've basically done is make the correlation that because boxers wear 15oz gloves an effective fist fighter must.
Loose fitting uniforms are the norm for those that fight for a living for a reason.
TLDR: I got what you were driving at I just think you are applying it incorrectly.
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ALright...we need more subject matter to study. SO post pics of the females of comic con and MMA female fighters....might as well throw in the star wars convention and heck and fantasy/scifi convention showing females in the garb. By establishing a base line we should be able to see whats good and what in a good...bad sort of way. Auston T thank you for volunteering to ensure individuals on this thead to post evidence for and against um...male over eagerness. King Cracker you Sir are to rate them 1-10. Very well lets cary on this study in a serioius way....rest of you all assist our two vict..eerrrrrr fellow workers to bring enlightment to us.
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LoneLictor wrote: Are you saying that we should just expect bad things, if we can't 100% magically get rid of them?
You want us to accept racists, because they aren't going away?
What about murderers? There will always be murder. Or rapists? There will always be rape.
Seriously man, that is some weak logic.
Because equating typical douche baggery to rape, murder, kidnapping, and various other legally recognized felonies is completely logically valid.
Typically, if something isn't against the law. Some people will probably do it. Somewhere. Ignoring that racism actually is legally protected, to the extent that free speech is interpreted to allow it.
I'm not arguing about laws. I'm arguing that we shouldn't condone douche baggery. I'm arguing that 'Its going to happen no matter what' doesn't make it any less acceptable.
The way I see it, the best thing (legally) that could be done to the douche bags is to shame them. If anyone caught them harassing the woman on camera, they should put it on youtube or somethin'.
LoneLictor wrote: I'm arguing that 'Its going to happen no matter what' doesn't make it any less acceptable.
Find for me where I said it does?
More than once in this thread posters have made massive logical leaps to say that people are saying things they are not. By saying that "this is never going to go away and people need to learn to deal with it" is not the same thing as saying "this is acceptable behavior." Accepting the existence of something is separate from accepting its validity.
DutchKillsRambo wrote: I do love how that rude comments towards a woman are horrendous and the perpetrators worse than Satan.
But advocating physical violence against someone taught from birth to not fight back is somehow ok?
Women can hit us and we can't even talk back? Whats that type of standard? I know it starts with a number, what is it again? Oh yeah double.
And face it male superhero bodies are just as objectified and unrealistic as the females it just so happens most comic readers are straight males. Read early 90's X-men and tell me anybody's muscles look like that.
In the words of the immortal bard: suck it up Dumbo. My Wife would have put a hurt on him, and I am raising GC to be fierce. Her response would have been unkind, but very very entertaining.
Personally I think she should have just kicked the guy in the balls
Seems disproportionate. Fits in with the double standard.
Highly appropriate and would have ended it right there. The more I think about what was done I said with Manchu. Dirt bags need to be smacked down, hard.
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Lets just say the wienerdogs would be enjoying a fine feast of marrow and liver indeed.
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Summary of the info we have on/from Caruso, and the statements made in reaction to it.
Caruso A: Is a (hot) chick, and likes dressing up in skimpy costumes at comic cons.
Caruso B: Is into fashion and costuming and comics, so her costumes are super-accurate and show a high attention to detail. They’re not just a cheap bikini to show off her skin.
Caruso C: The vast majority of guys she says she encounters when doing this are totally courteous and no problem.
Caruso D: There is a certain percentage of nerd guys who are unsocialized doofuses, and do some dumb stuff, but she doesn't flip out or give them a hard time about it.
Caruso E: Just recently she had a very unusual, unpleasant and unacceptable experience with a few jerks who took it way beyond that, into a realm no one should put up with.
I don’t see anything offensive or controversial in what Caruso said or did. Sure, she’s a self-promoter and obviously invites attention, but she seems to react to that attention appropriately, based on its varying levels of courtesy or creepiness.
Now here’s a selection of the various responses we’ve expressed in this thread:
Dakka poster statement A: That’s a shame. Nobody should be treated like that. There’s no excuse for being a jerk.
Dakka poster statement B: Boobs!
Dakka poster statement C: It’s her own fault for dressing like that. She should expect any man to sexually harass her. Wearing a skimpy costume to a comic con is just like wearing a skimpy costume to the office.
Dakka poster statement D: Nobody should be sexually harassed, but despite that, it was still her own fault for dressing like that. And expecting better of our peers = expecting a perfect world.
Dakka poster statement E: She’s a liar who totally wants the attention. She’s just complaining to promote herself and make money.
Dakka poster statement F: She’s a total jerk for hating nerds like she does. She should expect unsocialized doofuses to sexually harass her.
Dakka poster statement G: What? Nothing happened! Unless she was physically assaulted, she has no grounds for complaint.
Dakka poster statement H: It’s her own fault, and the people who think she had legitimate grounds for complaint are just protecting the guilty, out of some misguided fantasy about rescuing women.
I can get behind two of the above eight sentiments my fellow Dakkanauts have expressed. Which is not a good ratio. I think our community is mostly better than this junk. And can be better than it is.
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Mannahnin wrote: Summary of the info we have on/from Caruso, and the statements made in reaction to it.
Caruso A: Is a (hot) chick, and likes dressing up in skimpy costumes at comic cons.
Caruso B: Is into fashion and costuming and comics, so her costumes are super-accurate and show a high attention to detail. They’re not just a cheap bikini to show off her skin.
Caruso C: The vast majority of guys she says she encounters when doing this are totally courteous and no problem.
Caruso D: There is a certain percentage of nerd guys who are unsocialized doofuses, and do some dumb stuff, but she doesn't flip out or give them a hard time about it.
Caruso E: Just recently she had a very unusual, unpleasant and unacceptable experience with a few jerks who took it way beyond that, into a realm no one should put up with.
I don’t see anything offensive or controversial in what Caruso said or did. Sure, she’s a self-promoter and obviously invites attention, but she seems to react to that attention appropriately, based on its varying levels of courtesy or creepiness.
Now here’s a selection of the various responses we’ve expressed in this thread:
Dakka poster statement A: That’s a shame. Nobody should be treated like that. There’s no excuse for being a jerk.
Dakka poster statement B: Boobs!
Dakka poster statement C: It’s her own fault for dressing like that. She should expect any man to sexually harass her. Wearing a skimpy costume to a comic con is just like wearing a skimpy costume to the office.
Dakka poster statement D: Nobody should be sexually harassed, but despite that, it was still her own fault for dressing like that. And expecting better of our peers = expecting a perfect world.
Dakka poster statement E: She’s a liar who totally wants the attention. She’s just complaining to promote herself and make money.
Dakka poster statement F: She’s a total jerk for hating nerds like she does. She should expect unsocialized doofuses to sexually harass her.
Dakka poster statement G: What? Nothing happened! Unless she was physically assaulted, she has no grounds for complaint.
Dakka poster statement H: It’s her own fault, and the people who think she had legitimate grounds for complaint are just protecting the guilty, out of some misguided fantasy about rescuing women.
I can get behind two of the above eight sentiments my fellow Dakkanauts have expressed. Which is not a good ratio. I think our community is mostly better than this junk. And can be better than it is.
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I swore I'd never use that expression. However, your post quite frankly deserves it.
I can get behind two of the above eight sentiments my fellow Dakkanauts have expressed. Which is not a good ratio. I think our community is mostly better than this junk. And can be better than it is.
Never go to a club. I have (female) friends who've had their genitals groped in clubs, and that's just what i'm willing to put on dakka. Men, and by men I do explicitly mean people with penises, are bastards.
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jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
I met most of the women I ever dated in clubs, including the one I'm married to.
Seriously, most men aren't scumbags. And it's insulting and dumb to lump the vast majority of us in with the scumbags, and to give those scumbags cover for their jackassery and even crimes (from what you're saying) by pretending that crap is normal.
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Personally I would say that most men are "scumbags" and the "nice guys" are the minority. Men who're respectful and decent don't make good fighters, and cultures without good fighters don't last long.
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jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
And Frazzled are you really promoting physical violence as an acceptable alternative? Do people really think thats ok? Because all it takes is one wrong guy and suddenly your daughter is lying in a gutter beaten and broken. Violence is never the answer unless your in actual physical harm and to promote it otherwise is horribly dumb. And please spare me some stupid weiner dog comment or how you'll shoot that person or some such.
But Im glad that my theory has been helped along. Rude comments to woman = evil. Physical violence to a man = you go girl!
And Mannahain thats gotta be one of the worst most one sided summaries Ive ever seen. I get it you dont like any of our arguments, some dumb posts aside. That doesn't invalidate them though. I get you think a woman could never do something with an ulterior motive and that anyone that thinks different from you is a misogynistic cretin, but really, nobody here knows but her.
Mannahnin wrote: Summary of the info we have on/from Caruso, and the statements made in reaction to it.
Caruso A: Is a (hot) chick, and likes dressing up in skimpy costumes at comic cons.
Caruso B: Is into fashion and costuming and comics, so her costumes are super-accurate and show a high attention to detail. They’re not just a cheap bikini to show off her skin.
Caruso C: The vast majority of guys she says she encounters when doing this are totally courteous and no problem.
Caruso D: There is a certain percentage of nerd guys who are unsocialized doofuses, and do some dumb stuff, but she doesn't flip out or give them a hard time about it.
Caruso E: Just recently she had a very unusual, unpleasant and unacceptable experience with a few jerks who took it way beyond that, into a realm no one should put up with.
I don’t see anything offensive or controversial in what Caruso said or did. Sure, she’s a self-promoter and obviously invites attention, but she seems to react to that attention appropriately, based on its varying levels of courtesy or creepiness.
Now here’s a selection of the various responses we’ve expressed in this thread:
Dakka poster statement A: That’s a shame. Nobody should be treated like that. There’s no excuse for being a jerk.
Dakka poster statement B: Boobs!
Dakka poster statement C: It’s her own fault for dressing like that. She should expect any man to sexually harass her. Wearing a skimpy costume to a comic con is just like wearing a skimpy costume to the office.
Dakka poster statement D: Nobody should be sexually harassed, but despite that, it was still her own fault for dressing like that. And expecting better of our peers = expecting a perfect world.
Dakka poster statement E: She’s a liar who totally wants the attention. She’s just complaining to promote herself and make money.
Dakka poster statement F: She’s a total jerk for hating nerds like she does. She should expect unsocialized doofuses to sexually harass her.
Dakka poster statement G: What? Nothing happened! Unless she was physically assaulted, she has no grounds for complaint.
Dakka poster statement H: It’s her own fault, and the people who think she had legitimate grounds for complaint are just protecting the guilty, out of some misguided fantasy about rescuing women.
I can get behind two of the above eight sentiments my fellow Dakkanauts have expressed. Which is not a good ratio. I think our community is mostly better than this junk. And can be better than it is.
Would it be wrong to say I love you in a platonic way after posting this? I assume poster statements A and B are the ones you approve of? I agree. Boobs. And well created costume. She knows her gak-we should applaud her for being a hot girl who knows how to make a good costume accurately and fill it out something proper. Yay boobs!! And accuracy
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Testify wrote: Personally I would say that most men are "scumbags" and the "nice guys" are the minority. Men who're respectful and decent don't make good fighters, and cultures without good fighters don't last long.
Er...what?
I'm with Ragnar on this...
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DutchKillsRambo wrote: And Frazzled are you really promoting physical violence as an acceptable alternative? Do people really think thats ok? Because all it takes is one wrong guy and suddenly your daughter is lying in a gutter beaten and broken. Violence is never the answer unless your in actual physical harm and to promote it otherwise is horribly dumb. And please spare me some stupid weiner dog comment or how you'll shoot that person or some such.
But Im glad that my theory has been helped along. Rude comments to woman = evil. Physical violence to a man = you go girl!
And Mannahain thats gotta be one of the worst most one sided summaries Ive ever seen. I get it you dont like any of our arguments, some dumb posts aside. That doesn't invalidate them though. I get you think a woman could never do something with an ulterior motive and that anyone that thinks different from you is a misogynistic cretin, but really, nobody here knows but her.
Uh... so, you're a total pacifist?
That dude deserved to be slapped and/or his jewels kicked...
Oh... I second Ragnar's summary A/B... oh and Boobs!
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Testify wrote: Personally I would say that most men are "scumbags" and the "nice guys" are the minority. Men who're respectful and decent don't make good fighters, and cultures without good fighters don't last long.
I've been doing martial arts for fourteen years, I can hit head shots on silhouette targets at 500m with iron sights with the M-16A4 service rifle, and completed some of the tougher training the U.S. military offers that doesn't involve trying out for one of the S.F. groups, and I like to think I'm a very nice guy, just ask my momma. She'll tell you she raised a proper gentleman. A warrior's sword is only drawn when it needs to be, acting like a hooligan's not the mark of a good fighter and neither is making an arse of one's self in public. (Much the same thing really)
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
Caruso F: She signed some kind of deal with the Daily Mail or else they couldn't run her story. A deal that happens to include a link to her design website.
Take it as you will, but thats a fact as much as your others.
Dakka I: The characters Black Cat and Red Sonja are whores, because they wear skimpy outfits. Anyone who wears an outfit like either of those is a whore.
There is a large middle ground between scumbags and pushovers. Most men who actually talk to women and do anything in their lives are somewhere in the middle, and know how to conduct themselves with basic human decency and courtesy.
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Testify wrote: Personally I would say that most men are "scumbags" and the "nice guys" are the minority. Men who're respectful and decent don't make good fighters, and cultures without good fighters don't last long.
I've been doing martial arts for fourteen years, I can hit head shots on silhouette targets at 500m with iron sights with the M-16A4 service rifle, and completed some of the tougher training the U.S. military offers that doesn't involve trying out for one of the S.F. groups, and I like to think I'm a very nice guy, just ask my momma. She'll tell you she raised a proper gentleman. A warrior's sword is only drawn when it needs to be, acting like a hooligan's not the mark of a good fighter and neither is making an arse of one's self in public. (Much the same thing really)
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This?
I can hit head shots on silhouette targets at 500m with iron sights with the M-16A4 service rifle
Damn... I need to practice more.
Point is Testify... if you think most men are scumbags... then you're perpetuating the problem.
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Testify wrote: Personally I would say that most men are "scumbags" and the "nice guys" are the minority. Men who're respectful and decent don't make good fighters, and cultures without good fighters don't last long.
I've been doing martial arts for fourteen years, I can hit head shots on silhouette targets at 500m with iron sights with the M-16A4 service rifle, and completed some of the tougher training the U.S. military offers that doesn't involve trying out for one of the S.F. groups, and I like to think I'm a very nice guy, just ask my momma. She'll tell you she raised a proper gentleman. A warrior's sword is only drawn when it needs to be, acting like a hooligan's not the mark of a good fighter and neither is making an arse of one's self in public. (Much the same thing really)
I'm not doubting your skills, but ultimately your ability to use tools - weapons, martial arts - are a modern phenominon. The personality traits of aggression and rage etc are still more important at an inherent level than an ability to learn new skills, which is what modern warfare seems to be about. Hell a 12 year old girl with a pistol could kill Brock Lesnar in a heartbeat. Does that mean that she is a better man than him?
Testify wrote: Personally I would say that most men are "scumbags" and the "nice guys" are the minority. Men who're respectful and decent don't make good fighters, and cultures without good fighters don't last long.
Er...what?
I'm with Ragnar on this...
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DutchKillsRambo wrote: And Frazzled are you really promoting physical violence as an acceptable alternative? Do people really think thats ok? Because all it takes is one wrong guy and suddenly your daughter is lying in a gutter beaten and broken. Violence is never the answer unless your in actual physical harm and to promote it otherwise is horribly dumb. And please spare me some stupid weiner dog comment or how you'll shoot that person or some such.
But Im glad that my theory has been helped along. Rude comments to woman = evil. Physical violence to a man = you go girl!
And Mannahain thats gotta be one of the worst most one sided summaries Ive ever seen. I get it you dont like any of our arguments, some dumb posts aside. That doesn't invalidate them though. I get you think a woman could never do something with an ulterior motive and that anyone that thinks different from you is a misogynistic cretin, but really, nobody here knows but her.
Uh... so, you're a total pacifist?
That dude deserved to be slapped and/or his jewels kicked...
Oh... I second Ragnar's summary A/B... oh and Boobs!
Im not a pacifist at all. But go ahead tell women to start punching and kicking men for being rude. That could NEVER backfire. No woman has EVER been beaten because she humiliated a man. That could NEVER happen. Take a hotheaded guy and emasculate him in public. He would NEVER wait for her outside and beat her mercilessly when shes alone. That has NEVER happened.
But thanks for promoting violence because of bad words. Thats the sign of a truly enlightened mind. If someone threatens you, by all means respond with appropriate force. But somebody said something rude and hurtful and one is supposed to strike them? What is this grade school?
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Women don't need to be kicking guys in the balls, as a rule. Being prepared to deal with a physical confrontation if needed is a useful skill for anyone, of course, but there's rarely justification to start one.
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Women don't need to be kicking guys in the balls, as a rule. Being prepared to deal with a physical confrontation if needed is a useful skill for anyone, of course, but there's rarely justification to start one.
Okay... kicking the jewels in this case is excessive.
Testify wrote: Personally I would say that most men are "scumbags" and the "nice guys" are the minority. Men who're respectful and decent don't make good fighters, and cultures without good fighters don't last long.
I've been doing martial arts for fourteen years, I can hit head shots on silhouette targets at 500m with iron sights with the M-16A4 service rifle, and completed some of the tougher training the U.S. military offers that doesn't involve trying out for one of the S.F. groups, and I like to think I'm a very nice guy, just ask my momma. She'll tell you she raised a proper gentleman. A warrior's sword is only drawn when it needs to be, acting like a hooligan's not the mark of a good fighter and neither is making an arse of one's self in public. (Much the same thing really)
I'm not doubting your skills, but ultimately your ability to use tools - weapons, martial arts - are a modern phenomenon. The personality traits of aggression and rage etc are still more important at an inherent level than an ability to learn new skills, which is what modern warfare seems to be about. Hell a 12 year old girl with a pistol could kill Brock Lesnar in a heartbeat. Does that mean that she is a better man than him?
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Define "modern" because warfare has all been about acquiring a skillset since the Middle Ages, and that's global. While Europeans had a bit of an issue with the concept of not just being a raging fethhead, the entire reason knights existed is because modern warfare (at that time) required a specific skill set in addition to just working out a lot. Other culture's martial traditions, notably Islam and Japan's knight equivalents had their rough spots as well but did try to temper the steel core of a warrior with learning and art work. I just finished reading the autobiography of a muslim knight who lived and fought during the third crusade, he was a very learned man, practiced in poetry (a big deal in the Arab world for those who don't know) and sciences, his father was very famous as a copier of the Quran, completing forty two full copies in his life time all of which could individually qualify as art work. We're all familiar with samurai considering how popular that culture is here in the west.
I'd also disagree that you need aggression any less in a fight then you do now, just because a gun is the modern tool of warfare doesn't mean you need to be any less willing to fight or use it. Discipline is the hallmark of truly lethal fighters and professional warriors from the classical era and beyond. The Spartans were one of the finest military forces in the world, and the Roman legions after them, were they more aggressive then the people around them? Possibly though I'd say the tribal Germans had a leg up in sheer ferocity on the Romans, but both forces were certainly more skilled, more practiced and more disciplined then the average opponent across the field from them.
The tools change, the core of what makes a warrior, and what it takes to pick those tools up hasn't changed.
Dakka I: The characters Black Cat and Red Sonja are whores, because they wear skimpy outfits. Anyone who wears an outfit like either of those is a whore.
To be fair... Red Sonja does have that little sex problem of hers.
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long