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The Warrior Nation actually have the ability to turn into any animal they want. It's part of their spirit power. The wolf along with bear and bobcat are their war animals. Sitting Bull is actually prepairing for battle and has chosen the wolf for speed and agility reflected in his game stats.

The Warrior Nation back story will also cover their abilities and why they choose them.

As for the bases the game uses round bases only. The angle in the image is a bit misleading.

I am definitely looking forward to February.

Outlaw Miniatures wrote:
The Warrior Nation actually have the ability to turn into any animal they want. It's part of their spirit power. The wolf along with bear and bobcat are their war animals. Sitting Bull is actually prepairing for battle and has chosen the wolf for speed and agility reflected in his game stats.

The Warrior Nation back story will also cover their abilities and why they choose them.

As for the bases the game uses round bases only. The angle in the image is a bit misleading.

Just because something fits in with your "fluff" doesn't meen its still not in bad taste.

Suddenly members of THIS forum are the "Good Taste" police? Wow...maybe Christmas is a magical time...

I don't see the bad taste honestly but i can understand others take on it. For me i may buy into the KS but if it's metal then not a chance. Plastic is to expensive but resin is not. I am personally hesitant for two reasons the first is i don't really buy into Romeo not having control especially as the painter is one of his sales reps but.more products that go ks don't sell well for us retail folks as people have everything they want and need for a.while. All of that said i have been following the facebook since it launched and they are great minis it will just all depend on the final product for me.

Just showed the model to my choctaw/apache fiancee and she said, "that's cool".

Lesson is, don't go looking to get offended for other people when they aren't actually offended.

n.b. she also likes the Liberi native-inspired centaurs in Fanticide.

I didn't mean to say it was offensive.
It's just awkward.

It's like taking a four-armed guy in a turban, giving him four pistols, and naming him Mahatma Gandhi without the tiniest shred of irony.

It's funny when games like BANG! open up an encyclopedia and shoe-horn in famous western characters for the sake of jokes. It's just awkward when it's done straight.

Games like Malifaux are blatant about their influences (Hamelin, Rasputina, etc) but at least have their own flavor.
Games like Warmachine and 40k have light influences in the factions, but the flavor is wholly their own.
Games like Infinity take a "what-if" projection into the future grounded in reality. They have a contrived yet believable reason for famous characters in the past running around.

I'm not understanding why Jesse James and Chief Sitting Bull are running around a western/cyberpunk landscape sharing names with people of the past.

Even Stephen King's Gunslinger combines Western influences with SciFi, Fantasy, and Acid Trips without relying on famous characters.

Overall, it's simply awkward that a giant caricature of a Native American is running around with axes sharing the name with a famous historical pacifist from the past.
Not offensive... just... awkward...

I'm in this for Craig Gallant. I've been an avid D6 fan for a while now, and I enjoyed the fluff post on Xmas. I've subscribed to the comic, but will I KS it? Probably not unless it's the kind of deal Zombicide was and the comic and rules are stellar. I really like Weird Wild West as a theme.
I don't think you can make an assessment of the game's content (even a Werewolf Sitting Bull) until you've read the fluff. I'm not sure where your Sitting Bull pacifism thing is coming from either. From a cursory review of some off the shelf resources he led raids and supported them. It's like saying Lincoln was a rabid Abolitionist, and not a complicated Illinois, white freesoiler...

Outlaw Miniatures wrote:


We also spoke to many gamers that preferred the traditional metal minis over most all other choices.

I'd stop listening to these idiots. Do it in plastic if at all possible. A troll forged style resin is the 2nd best option. Metal comes in 2nd to last, ahead of only dried playdoh.

If the models are metal you can count me out of the KS.

call me old-school, but i don't have a problem with metal...
i am happy about every old metal GW mini i own, that has since been coverted to Finecast, and bummed about every cool new mini that has come out in it...

i love well-cast resin, and plastics are great, but i don't see any problem with metal minis...
pinning is not an issue, since i paint in parts, and use pins to hold the piece in an Exacto handle anyway...
miscasts are not any more common than your average resin mini, and metal minis are solid and durable...
thin parts are just as likely to snap, no matter the material, and clean-up seems to take the same amount of time with all three mediums...

call me crazy, but i just like cool minis, that are cast well, and a joy to paint...
once the primer goes on it all paints the same to me...

best of luck with this project...
it looks like there will be some great sculpts to paint...

cheers
jah

 cincydooley wrote:

Outlaw Miniatures wrote:
We also spoke to many gamers that preferred the traditional metal minis over most all other choices.

I'd stop listening to these idiots. <snip> If the models are metal you can count me out of the KS.

This. Plastic or GTFO.

The more models that you need to play the game, the more they need to be plastic (or plastic resin) just to make transporting them easy

carrying a bit 40K or fantasy army about in metal is no fun (unless you're driving)

for small scale skirmish games (up to 15 human sized models) I'm fine with metal for humans. Big stuff is still preferable in plastic even at this scale just for ease of assembly. For example the older PP metal warjacks were a nuisence to assemble because of the weight of the parts

That's on top of the convertability issues.

All that said I realise moulds/casting will be easier/cheaper for you if you go for metal

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
The more models that you need to play the game, the more they need to be plastic (or plastic resin) just to make transporting them easy

carrying a bit 40K or fantasy army about in metal is no fun (unless you're driving)

for small scale skirmish games (up to 15 human sized models) I'm fine with metal for humans. Big stuff is still preferable in plastic even at this scale just for ease of assembly. For example the older PP metal warjacks were a nuisence to assemble because of the weight of the parts

That's on top of the convertability issues.

All that said I realise moulds/casting will be easier/cheaper for you if you go for metal

Really? What's your definition of a 'big' army? I have ~4K pts of WHFB dwarves, most of them metal, in a single case - it has some heft but not significantly more than a regular laptop bag...

 judgedoug wrote:
Just showed the model to my choctaw/apache fiancee and she said, "that's cool".

Lesson is, don't go looking to get offended for other people when they aren't actually offended.

n.b. she also likes the Liberi native-inspired centaurs in Fanticide.

Will I don't question her on whether or not she can decide if she is offended I would definitely question her taste :-D

Those Liberi are hideous. Hideous I tell you. The studio paint jobs also suck. Show her a Nagash - if she likes that sculpt all those times she told you that your paint was awesome may not be somehting you rely on.


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 Breotan wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

Outlaw Miniatures wrote:
We also spoke to many gamers that preferred the traditional metal minis over most all other choices.

I'd stop listening to these idiots. <snip> If the models are metal you can count me out of the KS.

This. Plastic or GTFO.

Agreed. Being spoilt now with wide availablility of plastic.

Currently showing love to Warlord historicals because of extensive range of plastics. Won't touch a game that is virtually metal.

Everyone brings up good points when it comes to plastic vs metal vs resin.

For our company we are concentrating on the detail and quality of the models. The current selection of minis that you have seen are all done in resin. The quality that you see on these models is what we expect to see in our end product.

If we have the funding based on our Kick Starter we may look at plastic as a stretch goal. Since all the models are designed in a 3D environment we can wait till the last minute to make that decision.

One thing we will say is that good quality resin (not finecast) can deliver an amazing result. Bubbles, flashy, and miscasts will not be distributed since our quality assurance will be trained to look for these problems.

We may also end up with a situation that has us making the first year of models in resin and switching over to plastic in the future. Good points all around and we are taking them into advisement.

 fullheadofhair wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Just showed the model to my choctaw/apache fiancee and she said, "that's cool".

Lesson is, don't go looking to get offended for other people when they aren't actually offended.

n.b. she also likes the Liberi native-inspired centaurs in Fanticide.

Will I don't question her on whether or not she can decide if she is offended I would definitely question her taste :-D

Those Liberi are hideous. Hideous I tell you. The studio paint jobs also suck. Show her a Nagash - if she likes that sculpt all those times she told you that your paint was awesome may not be somehting you rely on.

Lol! Once upon a time I agreed with you until I got the Fanticide sampler pack, which has a couple Liberi. They are really very nice in person. They are sculpted in a style very reminiscent of Vendel, which is wonderful. I love the style, it's very clean (I have a whole Greek army of Vendel miniatures). The studio samples do suck hard (same with the Creeps).

I don't think it's a question of quality when it comes to resin. Most fine cast looks great. The question comes down to the relative brittleness of quality resin when being used in game. One of the appealing things about fine cast is that it's a bit softer resin and can stand up to being regularly handled. From my understanding troll forged plastic/resin is much the same.

I actively stay away from Dark Age, despite liking a lot of th models, because so many are metal.

Being able to transform into any animal they choose is cooler than his just being a straight-up wolf . I hope there's a sweet model of him in human form as well.

Will be keeping an eye on this...

Here is another one of our models getting set for Kick Starter going up on Feb. 1st. The Union will be a force to be reckoned with.

Look for a special release on January 15th. Follow us on facebook to get the latest info as it goes live.

http://www.facebook.com/browse/admined_pages/?id=100004234842845#!/pages/Wild-West-Exodus/250419908420659

Something Wicked is coming 2-1-2013

Judge Dredd 1880

RiTides, we just noticed your comment. We do plan on releasing the changed characters in their human form. Their ability to change and why they do it is all part of the story.

As humans they will have different abilities vs when they are in animal form. Many of these alternate models will be sold as kick starter exclusives in limited edition poses.

Once kick starter is finished a different version of these human formed models will become the regularly available styles.

It should make for some cool limited edition minis.

Well, if they are good I'd actually prefer their being a general release! But human forms sound good, thanks for the reply.

This mini to me is just a bust..reminds me of megaman honesty. Hopefully the other union are better otherwise it may just kill it for me off the bat.

Check out the new Studio Table designed and built by Rob Hawkins.

Please check out the official facebook page for more info and exciting news as we have it.

2-1-2013

Very nice work. You already have a leg up on Wyrd as you have made and shown off a terrain board for your game. Now you just need to make sure you show your miniatures displayed on terrain as if in the process of playing a game in your rulebook and you'll be in good shape.

These Iron Horses will play a major part in Wild West Exodus as our light support choices. Look for more information and images of the models in the coming days.

2-1-2013 is almost here.

This looks interesting, the guy kneeling with 2 pistols is a very nice model.

 Outlaw Miniatures wrote:
If we have the funding based on our Kick Starter we may look at plastic as a stretch goal. Since all the models are designed in a 3D environment we can wait till the last minute to make that decision.

One thing we will say is that good quality resin (not finecast) can deliver an amazing result. Bubbles, flashy, and miscasts will not be distributed since our quality assurance will be trained to look for these problems.

Head to your local hobby shop, buy one of the Malifaux Ten Thunders plastic kits and you'll see what can be done by a small company. Also, consider the following kickstarters: DreamForge, Kingdom Death, Kings of War, Sedition Wars, Through the Breach. They all went in producing plastic figures. Sedition Wars got a big boost by promsing to convert cardboard items into plastic. DreamForge introduced more product as they were pledged more money which resulted in even more money. Through the Breach languished until they started dropping plastic as part of their rewards. Yes, they're not the best example but there are other issues gimping them, unfortunately.

Now consider Kingdom Death. They ran with the idea of plastic figures for the game with special resin versions as "additional purchases" that people could make. You might want to consider taking that approach. It looked like it worked very well for Adam. Two million for high quality figures produced in plastic.

Oh, just so there's no confusion, by "plastic figures" we mean kits on a sprue and not one-part models like you find in a Milton Bradley game.

 Outlaw Miniatures wrote:
These Iron Horses will play a major part in Wild West Exodus as our light support choices. Look for more information and images of the models in the coming days.

2-1-2013 is almost here.

This looks interesting, will there be different weapon options for the bike?

Yes, each Iron Horse model will have several weapon options based on its point cost.

Here is the first look at the stat line for one of our Boss models Jesse James. It should give you some general insight on game and model structure.