Wild West Exodus Miniatures Game - The Ongoing Kickstarter News and Rumors Thread!

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**Madmick**

Really liking the dynamics of these wave 2 Union Hired Hands. What do you guys think? Personally I like the fact that there is a lot of thought for creating movement and variety in these.
Perhaps your posse would look nice set up in a diorama when not in use. But what ever you tastes I don't think anyone can say they are not intriguing and interesting to paint.
I think MY hardest choice is wether to choose the Union or the Warrior Nation as my main posse of choice. But I guess it would be wiser to wait and see what happens further down the road when we get a few more releases.
t seems like every day we reach a new stretch goal and are treated to new toys. Damn it, why does everyone know my weakness, hehe.

Anyways, what do you guys think?

Mick

**Mathieu Raymond**

Did I miss anything? I saw a bunch of questions that were labelled as "hate"?

What happened?

**RiTides**

Wow, Outlaw Miniatures, that was way out of line. Most of the posts in this thread have been positive. Sheesh...

Madmick- Those do indeed look sweet, and very dynamic. I wonder how feasible the poses will actually be to tool... but they look So much better than the earlier more static poses. I also like the warrior nation the best, and have been keeping an eye on them / this thread, which is why those comments from Outlaw just seem to come from out of left field.

**Yodhrin**

RiTides wrote:
Wow, Outlaw Miniatures, that was way out of line. Most of the posts in this thread have been positive. Sheesh...

Madmick- Those do indeed look sweet, and very dynamic. I wonder how feasible the poses will actually be to tool... but they look So much better than the earlier more static poses. I also like the warrior nation the best, and have been keeping an eye on them / this thread, which is why those comments from Outlaw just seem to come from out of left field.

While Outlaw's reaction might have been a bit...strident, it's hardly "out of left field" when people are pretty much flat-out accusing other posters of being marketing sockpuppets sent by the company.

**-Loki-**

Yodhrin wrote:
RiTides wrote:
Wow, Outlaw Miniatures, that was way out of line. Most of the posts in this thread have been positive. Sheesh...

Madmick- Those do indeed look sweet, and very dynamic. I wonder how feasible the poses will actually be to tool... but they look So much better than the earlier more static poses. I also like the warrior nation the best, and have been keeping an eye on them / this thread, which is why those comments from Outlaw just seem to come from out of left field.

While Outlaw's reaction might have been a bit...strident, it's hardly "out of left field" when people are pretty much flat-out accusing other posters of being marketing sockpuppets sent by the company.

I'm honestly surprised companies have people post here at all anymore. It's become pretty nasty of late in News and Rumours. I'm all for criticism, but a lot of what goes on it flat out trolling.

**RiTides**

All I meant, was that as a company representative it makes the most sense to stay "above the fray" if they don't like someone's criticism. I certainly don't think most of this thread has been negative, on the contrary, I am very interested in these concepts and miniatures, as are many posters. Don't let a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch by responding in kind!

**MajorTom11**

Alright, that's quite enough.

I agree with OM that picking on Romeo or Battlefoam, accusing of corporate sock-puppeting etc is off topic, and completely pointless to the discussion of the topic at hand, Wild West Exodus. We are here to talk about the product, not attack marketing practices you can't even prove are happening. Though I personally like him, Romeo is not everyone's cup of tea, nor is Battlefoam, I realize that. However, Romeo does not come in the box, just the miniatures, so let's stick to talking about the product please.

@Outlaw Miniatures, I can certainly understand the frustrations involved with dealing with PR, especially in the world's largest miniature forum, Dakka. It get's rough in here. We have 70k+ members last I looked, that means on sheer numbers we will most definitely have every opinion in the spectrum.

However, slagging off this forum because it isn't full of yes-men isn't going to do you any favors. If you choose not to post in here anymore, so be it, it sure is understandable not to be able to keep up with every forum major and minor and just focus on the KS. You would be well served to handle your own messaging in a calmer manner yourself though. Accusing the huge body of Dakka users of hating based on 1 out of 20 (if even that!) comments is potentially being disrespectful of 10's of thousands of customers, not to mention staff that is otherwise very supportive of your venture.

Something to chew on.

Moving on, back to the miniatures please, everyone (me included obviously lol).

**Chef Vegas**

Hello,

I have been reading Dakka for years but never posted before. My friends and I have been devout 40k followers for more than two decades despite our consternation with games workshop; unfortunately, we could never find a game to replace it. For us, it looks like WWX is it.

We have been playing their prerelease rules and think the game and models are great. We have all pledged on the kickstarter.

Chef Vegas

**Madmick**

Hi Chef, Nice to have you on board matey.

Not sure if you have seen, but we have almost got the next stretch goal for the Warrior Nation wave 2 sidekicks.

As interest, what posses were you playing? I am planning on going Warrior Nation (hence the excitement on this particular stretch goal). I hear Union are pretty powerful at present. How are you finding it?

**Lochlannon**

Hey there mike good to see you around. I hope everything is going smoothly. I'm very, very excited about this game and can't wait to see what opens up soon enough. The warrior nation is by far the thing that has grabbed my imagination and grabbed ahold of it with a death grip. Come take a look. Madmick is a good gent and doing his best to promote this. Besides it is a kickstarter - the more the marrier. The more toys the better.

**Madmick**

@Lochlannon, Hi buddy. Sorry didn't reply sooner, I thought you were me as I also have that avatar on another forum. hehe.

Get yourself onto WWX KS soon matey as Outlaw has stated updates up soon as they are being processed as I type this to you.

Hoping for more of the story from yesterday.

**Chef Vegas**

I have been playing Union, but we have four guys in our group so one of us took each using 40k models as proxies. I will probably go with Outlaws as my primary when the game is here.

**Madmick**

They do look nice matey. Not overly keen on the bowler hats though if I am truthful, did they really wear them? Or is that part of the artistic flare? I am totally ignorant towards all this cowboy stuff. hehe

**Agamemnon2**

Madmick wrote:
They do look nice matey. Not overly keen on the bowler hats though if I am truthful, did they really wear them? Or is that part of the artistic flare? I am totally ignorant towards all this cowboy stuff. hehe

More than any other piece of headgear, the bowler hat was the hat that conquered the west. It was immensely popular over the period. For one thing, you could wear it while peering out a train carriage and it wouldn't fly off, since it's a snug fit with a modest brim that doesn't catch the wind like a broader one would.

**Madmick**

Ah, I am learning more about the wild west already, hehe. I just thought everyone wore cowboy hats and said g'day mam.

I guess it would make sense to wear them in those dusty conditions then. I still think that the cowboy hats look pretty cool though. At least in the pictures I have seen. I hear there will be a lot of extras on the sprue's so I guess you could chop 'n' change to what you liked. maybe CC troops with bowler hats so they don't fly off whilst fighting and cowboy hats for the ranged troops, so that the sun does not shine in their eyes

I am hoping that a few of the kits are interchangeable to. This would enable you to make Indian outlaws for example or Outlaws with a Union hat on or whatever. I dunno. guess I will have to have a butchers when I get my models I guess.

What about you? Are you interested in the Wild West? it's a new concept at least!

**Yodhrin**

Pledged myself now. Not a vast amount, but the four models will be enough to form a solid Inquisitor's warband, I'll just have to convince my sometime opponents to play at a club or on a kitchen table rather than the local GW, heh.

**Madmick**

Glad to have you aboard Yodhrin.

Never really thought of playing inquisitor with them tbh. Sounds like a neat plan though.

I am 'Squatting Thunder' Michael (Ironclad) on the KS matey. If you need some navigation to get involved in the forum etc, just let me know and I can point you in the right direction.

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New items added to some of the WWX pledge levels

and $195,000 stretch goal hit!

Next up is the Union Train at $200,00

**Agamemnon2**

Looks like they'll be breaking $200k anytime now, unlocking the train, which is admittedly looking very good in those concept pics. If it gets any takers, as I suspect it will, the campaign's gonna hurtle along nicely. It'll be interesting to see what the final total will be.

As an aside, I wonder how well WWX will scale with Dystopian Legions.

**Madmick**

Hi Agamemnon, I think Yodhrin suggested that they were of equal scale matey and could look cool along side those FSA lot.

Would be nice to have you along side buddy, the more the merrier, as they say.

when you come over, you may want to check out the Repulsive pledge level, as that has received some nice attention last night and I think it works out to be 69% off of the RRP and there are a few Early Birds left. Not sure why though, hehe.

**rnrusa16**

Thisis the first minis game that has interested me since I got into 40k in the mid 90s. Shameless at the moment but that Repulsive is singing to me. Need to scrape up another $100 somewhere...

**Lochlannon**

Yeah at the repulsive level they just added a bag and some other goodies. It seems like there is a sweet spot at any level no matter where you go.

Personally, Union and Warrior faction is for me. But who knows what the lawmen will bring out or even - if we get that far the Confederate Rebellion - who knows. Holy order.. gak all of them sound interesting. Very, very nice stuff.

**Yodhrin**

Madmick wrote:
Hi Agamemnon, I think Yodhrin suggested that they were of equal scale matey and could look cool along side those FSA lot.

Would be nice to have you along side buddy, the more the merrier, as they say. when you come over, you may want to check out the Repulsive pledge level, as that has received some nice attention last night and I think it works out to be 69% off of the RRP and there are a few Early Birds left. Not sure why though, hehe.

Not quite; I was worried that they were the same height, but going by the measurement I was given they're actually a touch shorter, sitting just between GW and DL.

**Fenrir Kitsune**

It looks good and I do like the idea of another Weird West game, but the involvement of Romeo Filip counts me out of this.

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/03/07/meat-meta-bad-battlefoam-practices/

**Bossk_Hogg**

Madmick wrote:
I am thinking that if a person can not tell the difference that Outlaw has shown in the photo they put out, it would be equally as hard without. After all it is not like the difference between 15mm and 28mm Heroic scale.

The model they have to show the scale has a hat on also, so to really compare them, you may have to do this with a lot of their miniatures in varying stances and uniform to get it correct to the nearest 1mm. For me, the scales are near enough to game with and have fun painting. Which is all I ask for to be honest.

Perhaps when the game comes out in Aug/Sept you may get chance to see such pictures from someone else's painting table.

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Additionally, when I think about it. The Space Marine is not to scale as they are similar size to the Imp Guard.

I think, if you like a model, you will like it for what it is. A good point of referance could be to check out Dystopian Legions models as I hear that they are 35mm also, if this help?

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Have to say that I love the new concept art for the Warrior Nation!

This amazing set of 4 models will feature 3 detailed Warrior Nation Braves and one large Summoned Apparition.

This group of sidekicks can summon this spirit in their activation and use it to fight in close combat. The Apparition can never be destroyed unless all 3 Braves have been killed. This group will make an amazing addition to any army and will be available to Corrupt level pledges as a free addition once unlocked.

Other backers may add this 4 model set for $30 well below its normal MSRP. The Apparition model will stand 60mm tall and have various spirit and ghost ripping out of it.

Look for this to unlock at $195k

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Romeo from Battlefoam talks about Wild West Exodus! you get to hear it from the horses mouth.

http://www.adepticon.org

I must have tha apparition as a replacement model for Dark Debts hungering darkness, assuming it at all comes out looking like the concept artwork (even better if cast in clear plastic)...

**Madmick**

@rnrusa, I thought that is why you are born with 2 kidneys and only need one?

hehe

@Yodhrin, Sorry buddy, did not wish to miss quote you, it was not my intention.

@Loch, indeed. If I wasn't on the Corrupted pledge I would be all over this!!! But with almost $200k and 700+ backers, I am sure I will be looked after.

@Fenrir, I am sorry you feel that way buddy. Personally, I am relieved to know that my money is going to someone with business sense as this gives additional security for my investment. The fact that you can read a random hate blog and be steered by it only makes me feel sorry for you tbh. It looks as though you wish to put people off from backing WWX. does this give you pleasure? or perhaps it makes you feel important and listened to and able to steer the community to your cause? I can only hope that what ever your intentions, I am wrong in my interpretation of your last post. I just feel it is a shame that you can like something, as you suggest, and cut your nose off to despite your face, just because of your personal feelings towards one person within the company. You can't like 100% of people 100% of the time buddy. Or should I say it is not healthy to. I hope that you find an alternative outlet if you choose to follow a different path of WWX matey. Good luck

**Agamemnon2**

Madmick wrote:
Would be nice to have you along side buddy, the more the merrier, as they say. when you come over, you may want to check out the Repulsive pledge level, as that has received some nice attention last night and I think it works out to be 69% off of the RRP and there are a few Early Birds left. Not sure why though, hehe.

Thanks, but my attention (and money) have already been claimed by Empire of the Dead. Sherlock Holmes, Captain Nemo, Jack the Ripper and clockwork robots

**cincydooley**

Madmick wrote:

@Fenrir, I am sorry you feel that way buddy. Personally, I am relieved to know that my money is going to someone with business sense as this gives additional security for my investment. The fact that you can read a random hate blog and be steered by it only makes me feel sorry for you tbh. It looks as though you wish to put people off from backing WWX. does this give you pleasure? or perhaps it makes you feel important and listened to and able to steer the community to your cause? I can only hope that what ever your intentions, I am wrong in my interpretation of your last post. I just feel it is a shame that you can like something, as you suggest, and cut your nose off to despite your face, just because of your personal feelings towards one person within the company. You can't like 100% of people 100% of the time buddy. Or should I say it is not healthy to. I hope that you find an alternative outlet if you choose to follow a different path of WWX matey. Good luck

Says the guy who's 29 posts here have been solely about WWX

No offense, brah, but it's really hard to take anything you say without a few tablespoons of salt. You're not exactly an unbiased participant here.

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Also: That BoK "article" has to be one of the worst written pieces of shlock I've read in a while. If you're really letting that sway you, well, you're probably someone that votes solely on political commericals and I pray god has mercy on your soul.

**Fenrir Kitsune**

cincydooley wrote:
Madmick wrote:

@Fenrir, I am sorry you feel that way buddy. Personally, I am relieved to know that my money is going to someone with business sense as this gives additional security for my investment. The fact that you can read a random hate blog and be steered by it only makes me feel sorry for you tbh. It looks as though you wish to put people off from backing WWX. does this give you pleasure? or perhaps it makes you feel important and listened to and able to steer the community to your cause? I can only hope that what ever your intentions, I am wrong in my interpretation of your last post. I just feel it is a shame that you can like something, as you suggest, and cut your nose off to despite your face, just because of your personal feelings towards one person within the company. You can't like 100% of people 100% of the time buddy. Or should I say it is not healthy to. I hope that you find an alternative outlet if you choose to follow a different path of WWX matey. Good luck

Says the guy who's 29 posts here have been solely about WWX

No offense, brah, but it's really hard to take anything you say without a few tablespoons of salt. You're not exactly an unbiased participant here.

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Also: That BoK "article" has to be one of the worst written pieces of shlock I've read in a while. If you're really letting that sway you, well, you're probably someone that votes solely on political commericals and I pray god has mercy on your soul.

Nah, it was the PM threats and listening to him calling people out on the 0-12 Podcast that swayed me about Battlefoam/Mr Filip. I found out about the rest of his "business sense" later.

Fully agree that the blog post is a crappy one. Handy though.

BTW, if people want to back this KS, then thats 100% up to them.

**Agamemnon2**

cincydooley wrote:

Also: That BoK "article" has to be one of the worst written pieces of shlock I've read in a while. If you're really letting that sway you, well, you're probably someone that votes solely on political commericals and I pray god has mercy on your soul.

God has mercy on all our souls, your prayer is superfluous and ostentatious.

**Madmick**

@Agamemnon, Wow thats a lot of nice gear you have invested in buddy. Had thought about EotD also. Andy Cooper seems a really nice chap, as I have spoken to him a few times via PM. He looks very talented also in his sculpting video.

@cincydooley, What would I have to say to make you happy? I do not wish to concentrate on things I do not like, or things that I can not improve for the better. I try and be upbeat and positive about my hobby, as I see little sense in surrounding myself with unhappiness when I choose to do my hobby. To me, gaming should be an enjoyable process. Do you not agree? I am sorry if my previous comments have led to your lack of faith in me. It was never my intent.