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So I have a question I wanna put to everyone. In your opinion what's more important to have in 6th edition. Anti psyker or anti air?

I'm gonna say active anti psyker is more important with things like prescience being a primaris power and the biomancy tree. And in my opinion it's a lot easier to outmaneuver flyers than it is hefty psychic attacks. So what says you Dakka?
   
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I would say anti air. You can kill a psyker with normal weaponry or cc. Anti air requires a dedicated unit to deal with skyfire and interceptor. I like an aegis line and a quad gun. 100 points total and very useful. Plus you can shoot the quad gun at ground targets, 4 str 7 twin linked shots is awesome for a dev Srg or Tac bolt gun guy to fire.

   
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Anti Air rather it be lots of autocannons shooting at the sky hoping to roll a 6 or Skyfire.
Without a anti air choice you would be throwing hail marys trying to hit flyers.
Like the above poster said you can kill psykers much easier with normal weaponry then a flier.
   
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Anti pskyer? bar eldar and shadow of the hive mind nothing else can stop prescience (or any other blessings) being cast can it?

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I don't really focus on anti psyker. Being an Eldar player means I don't have any skyfire, so I focus on that. It means too that I only have to throw Runes Of Warding on my farseer and nothng more.

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MarkyMark wrote:
Anti pskyer? bar eldar and shadow of the hive mind nothing else can stop prescience (or any other blessings) being cast can it?


This. Psychic hoods are not impressive anymore, and it does nothing to stop blessings, which are 90% of the best powers ATM.

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Focus on taking down a few pesky fliers.

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MarkyMark wrote:
Anti pskyer? bar eldar and shadow of the hive mind nothing else can stop prescience (or any other blessings) being cast can it?


Don't forget about rune priest and thier 24 inch 4+ denial zone.

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 Warboss Brokentoof wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:
Anti pskyer? bar eldar and shadow of the hive mind nothing else can stop prescience (or any other blessings) being cast can it?


Don't forget about rune priest and thier 24 inch 4+ denial zone.


This, SW's still have a 24" Maybe not bubble.

   
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Anti-psyker isn't that important. Wolves and Eldar are the ones with it mostly and yet they aren't dominating the competitive scene. Some psychic powers are incredibly good, but I've yet to see them alone win a game.

And put it this way; at the start of 6th edition everyone was saying how everyone is going to ally in Eldrad or a Farseer for Runes; this has yet to become common. It shows up, but is rare in my experiences.

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Anti-air. It's easy enough to target a psyker and take him / her out of the game. It's hard to target airborne attackers and skyfire options are expensive for most armies.

   
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Depends on the list and the codex, I guess.

But for going into a tournament with a list, I consider the anti flyer thing more than the anti psiker.

   
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I feel like the answer to this largely depends on your local meta. At my FLGS no one really runs more than one flier in their lists and their luckily are no flying French Bakeries to be found.


 
   
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Chancetragedy wrote:
So I have a question I wanna put to everyone. In your opinion what's more important to have in 6th edition. Anti psyker or anti air?

I'm gonna say active anti psyker is more important with things like prescience being a primaris power and the biomancy tree. And in my opinion it's a lot easier to outmaneuver flyers than it is hefty psychic attacks. So what says you Dakka?
It actually is pretty easy to counter a psyker now; since the deny the witch rule came in, even a poor grot has a chance of nullifying a psychic power.

Anti-Air is easily more important. Air spam lists wil ripl every list that doesn't have a good number of AA apart, look at doom sythe spam on 'crons; they are feared for a reason.

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Neither. Anti-scoring-unit got WAY more important in 6th ed, while psykers and fliers fill ancillary roles.



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 Ailaros wrote:
Neither. Anti-scoring-unit got WAY more important in 6th ed, while psykers and fliers fill ancillary roles.




This. Anti-air and anti-psyker can be solved by simply taking anti-other stuff weapons; volume of fire to take out fliers and volume of fire to take out psykers and/or their units before they become a threat.

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 Ailaros wrote:
Neither. Anti-scoring-unit got WAY more important in 6th ed, while psykers and fliers fill ancillary roles.




I like this answer. This is sort of why I asked the question, and answered it the way I did. I don't fear flyers as much as I fear psykers because of their ability to bless something that helps it win. 90% of my current tactics include wiping every one of my opponents scoring units.
   
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 Ailaros wrote:
Neither. Anti-scoring-unit got WAY more important in 6th ed, while psykers and fliers fill ancillary roles.


That's not really an answer since you can't possibly build a list without a denial unit, since that encompasses everything that isn't a vehicle.

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