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 ShatteredBlade wrote:
That's because nobody likes ham armed Rambo man, nobody

Hey! I love them... as a basis for my conversions.

 pretre wrote:

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
That's because nobody likes ham armed Rambo man, nobody

Hey! I love them... as a basis for my conversions.

I could only imagine what the sprue construction sheet says, " cut out of sprue, place directly into toilet"

Heeey.... Nuh-uh. I don't think they are that bad. I hate the heads of most of them, but the muscle man thing isn't too bad as a base.

I personally like the look of Cadians being able to make them look like other forces. Thought the The death legions - esp the forgeworld stuff is bad ass IMO. Cheers all

For me it's the Death Korp, my absolute favourite range of models. However I also have very soft spots for Mordians, Praetorians, Valhallans, Elysians and, especially, Tallarn.

As is probably obvious, my favorite is the DKoK.

Not only do they look really cool, but I feel as fit the grimdark gothic "dark ages in space" feel of 40k better than any other IG line save possibly Vostroyans. They've got that touch of steampunk/WW1 that pervades the Imperium that so defines 40k with suitably bleak and grim background to suit.

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
Most assuredly its the DKoK. Mostly because I like the minis and the fluff. But really its because of this miniature.....



Now THAT is a scary ass Commissar!

You mean a quartermaster lol

As much as I love the men from Planet Rambo, it's Valhallans all the way for me. I spent about 6 months this year hunting down and painting Valhallans by the bucketfull, and it really paid off:

DKoK mate.
Looks badass as hell, grimdark even in grimdark, never give a sh*t about personal welfare and if they had a codex, all their units would be default fearless,



I MEAN JUST LOOK AT THAT.

Anybody who doesn't choose praetorians and just lying, it's not nice to lie.

 ShatteredBlade wrote:

Hospy wrote:
Voted Krieg, though I do like my Steel Legion army.

Off hand, I find it hilarious that Catachans are among the lowest yet manage to have a plastic box.

That's because nobody likes ham armed Rambo man, nobody

Except GW unfortunately. At least they did at 1 point or they'd be metal

I voted:

Tallarn, DKoK, Steel Legion, and Valhallan

Because I would totally go broke to field an army of them ... should requred funds ever happen for me.

Voted other because 2nd edition Cadians are superior to your sissy man modern day cadians.

 Novelist47 wrote:
DKoK mate.
Looks badass as hell, grimdark even in grimdark, never give a sh*t about personal welfare and if they had a codex, all their units would be default fearless,

They have a rule set, everyone is stubborn, not fearless, sadly, and they don't have increased leadership either (which would showcase both their discipline and their will to fight extremely well, but it'd probably make e'm a bit strong)

As for me, DKoK, obviously.

Elysians and Harakoni Warhawks

I say the Cadians.

No, it's not because they are right on the Eye of Terror's doorstep. No, it's not because they provide the best soldiers in the Imperial Guard.

It's because they're the basic guardsmen. The generic ones. They are the Ultramarines of IG armies.

But unlike space marines (whose charm comes from being special and powerful), the charm of the IG is that they are the army of the everyman. There's no genetic engineering, super technology, or lifelong warrior indoctrination. It's just a man or woman like you and I armed with flak armor, a lasgun, frag grenades, and a bayonet. And they face everything from genetically engineered super soldiers, to highly advanced alien civilizations, to outright monsters. But because the guardsmen are so many, if they simply work together they can triumph over any obstacle.

From this viewpoint, playing a "special" kind of guardsmen takes away from what makes guardsmen appealing in the first place. The best kind of Guardsmen are the ones that are the regular, generic, and (most importantly) default ones.

And that just happens to be the Cadians.

reaper with no name wrote:
lifelong warrior indoctrination.

Might want to double check your background on the Cadians there;

"Any Cadian who can't field-strip his own lasgun by age ten was born on the wrong planet!" - Anon

Cadia is a fortress-world and, like Krieg, produces nothing but soldiers. The offspring of the populace are raised to be soldiers of the Imperium and are considered to be amongst the best the Guard has to offer. What makes Cadians generic are two things; firstly that because of their 'elite' status a lot of worlds ape their equipment & fatigues making their appearance widespread and two they're the face of the Imperial Guard for much of the IG stuff - hence it's Cadians they find on the forgeworld in the computer game Space Marine, why the 4th Ed. appearance was used for the IG in Dawn of War, why they've been on the front coverof the last three Guard Codices and a lot of the art within the 5th Ed Codex is of Cadians and why they're the 'main' type of IG model on sale (yes I know the Catachans have as good a range but I'd be amazed if GW sold more Catachan than Cadian models).

Not saying any of that is bad or that I can't see where you're coming from, but in the background they're that bit better than you're suggesting.

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
No Tanith?!?

Thread is irrelevant.

QFT. I play Pardus and Tanith. Neither in this thread?!?! Heresy! Inquisitor Abnett has been dispatched to handle this outrage.



Pardus 8th with Command BaneBlade

 Sparks_Havelock wrote:

reaper with no name wrote:
lifelong warrior indoctrination.

Might want to double check your background on the Cadians there;

"Any Cadian who can't field-strip his own lasgun by age ten was born on the wrong planet!" - Anon

Cadia is a fortress-world and, like Krieg, produces nothing but soldiers. The offspring of the populace are raised to be soldiers of the Imperium and are considered to be amongst the best the Guard has to offer. What makes Cadians generic are two things; firstly that because of their 'elite' status a lot of worlds ape their equipment & fatigues making their appearance widespread and two they're the face of the Imperial Guard for much of the IG stuff - hence it's Cadians they find on the forgeworld in the computer game Space Marine, why the 4th Ed. appearance was used for the IG in Dawn of War, why they've been on the front coverof the last three Guard Codices and a lot of the art within the 5th Ed Codex is of Cadians and why they're the 'main' type of IG model on sale (yes I know the Catachans have as good a range but I'd be amazed if GW sold more Catachan than Cadian models).

Not saying any of that is bad or that I can't see where you're coming from, but in the background they're that bit better than you're suggesting.

Perhaps I should have rephrased it as "they don't recieve the kind of training and brainwashing that space marines do".

Whether they are a little bit better than other Guardsmen is irrelevant. Why they are the default is irrelevant. What matters is that they are the default.

They are the quintessential guardsmen. And that is where the IG's appeal comes from. Or at least, that's where their appeal to me comes from.

I'm not disagreeing with your choice in the slightest just from the way you worded it it read, to me, as though they were just the run-of-the-mill average quality troops. So long as they are what appeal to you, that is what matters.

They are, however, brainwashed just like any other loyalist Imperial Guard regiment - thanks to their rigid adherence to the Imperial Creed & unswerving loyalty & dedication to the God-Emperor. As for training, as Cadians are subjected to training from the moment they can walk, talk & properly comprehend, I'd say they get the human equivilant of the training Space Marines recieve (who, let us not forget, are superhumans).

Mordians followed by krieg

 Sparks_Havelock wrote:
They are, however, brainwashed just like any other loyalist Imperial Guard regiment - thanks to their rigid adherence to the Imperial Creed & unswerving loyalty & dedication to the God-Emperor.

Yeah right, Cadian loyalty is a joke.

Cadians have commissars to keep them from running away at the first sign of danger.

Krieg have commissars to force them to fall back occasionally instead of always fearlessly fighting to the death in the name of the Emperor.

DKoK > Cadians.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Sparks_Havelock wrote:
They are, however, brainwashed just like any other loyalist Imperial Guard regiment - thanks to their rigid adherence to the Imperial Creed & unswerving loyalty & dedication to the God-Emperor.

Yeah right, Cadian loyalty is a joke.

Cadians have commissars to keep them from running away at the first sign of their entire platoon getting torn apart by giant alien tentacle murderbeasts

Slight adjustment made.

Krieg have commissars to force them to fall back occasionally instead of always fearlessly fighting to the death in the name of the Emperor.

Seems like they're pretty tactically uneducated, no?

 TheCaptain wrote:
Cadians have commissars to keep them from running away at the first sign of their entire platoon getting torn apart by giant alien tentacle murderbeasts
Slight adjustment made.

If the emperor orders you to be torn apart by giant alien tentacle murderbeasts so that the murderbeats will be slightly more tired when the space marines arrive to kill it, you will be torn apart by the murderbeast! COWARDS ARE NOT WELCOME IN THIS ARMY!

Seems like they're pretty tactically uneducated, no?

I didn't say they were smart, just loyal.

 Peregrine wrote:

 TheCaptain wrote:
Seems like they're pretty tactically uneducated, no?

I didn't say they were smart, just loyal.

It's nothing to do with tactical education or intelligence. Essentially every member of the Death Korp has a fervent belief that Krieg owes the Imperium & God-Emperor a blood-debt for their transgressions in the past (their 500-year civil war) and as such are eager to pay a small part of that debt with the one thing they can ultimately sacrifice to Him - their lives. So they march to the front with the intent wish to kill the God-Emperor's enemies & die for Him upon the battlefield, which makes them rather zealous in their duty and why they have to be reined in by Commissar's attached to the Death Korp. The Imperium is more than happy for Korpsmen to sacrifice themselves but only if they do it where it's needed most.

The Commissar's also fill a secondary role that is not normal for a Commissar. Because the Death Korp has such a low rate of infractions the Commissar's don't find themselves employed to maintain discipline. Instead they act as liason between the Death Korp and other regiments - not many regiments are keen to be near that faceless, nameless mass of dour, eager to die Korpsmen.

 Brother SRM wrote:
As much as I love the men from Planet Rambo, it's Valhallans all the way for me. I spent about 6 months this year hunting down and painting Valhallans by the bucketfull, and it really paid off:

Those are bad-ass. I seriously gave thought to using that color scheme on mine, but I wanted to go fo something that might be easier. So I chose white. Ugh. What did I know.

Schaefer's Last Chancers. The best of the worst.

Close second Gaunt's Ghosts. Catachans only wish they were that cool.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Voted other because 2nd edition Cadians are superior to your sissy man modern day cadians.

Yeah true. I'd kill for an armys worth of these guys.

Actually to be honest i just want the guy with the bolter and the guy with the belt of grenades. Anything else is just gravy.

I vastly prefer the old IG metals to the newer Cadians. Other than being able to convert (which can be important) and the options to have all the available weapons, the older sculpts looked much nicer.

In addition to the Valhallans, I really like the Mordians and Praetorians also.

Death Korps. Because I'm biased to gas masks.

However, if they ever came out with Tanith First and Only...
Thinking about it, you could probably just get Cadians and put camo cloaks on everyone. Hmm.