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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

otherwise it'd cover the entire galaxy (which isn't infinite, btw).

What.

 Necroshea wrote:
Well humanity occasionally spits out alpha level psykers. According to the tabletop books they can crack planets and all that.

Of course the inquisition murders them promptly

The Apex Twins would like a word.

Mephiston is the great!

The God Emperor of Mankind!
He could crush the minds of all those mentioned here in a split-second using only a mere fraction of his power.

Or Tzeentch. He is the chaos god of sorcery after all.

The Emperor needs other psykers to help him keep the astronomican going and Tzeentch is a god.

Tzeentch isn't really a psyker though. A psyker is a mortal who can harness the powers of the Warp. Tzeentch can never enter the mortal realm so technically is not a psyker. He is more akin to a force of nature. Not a real being as we know it.

I'd have to go with the Emperor, with Magnus a close second.

 XT-1984 wrote:
Tzeentch isn't really a psyker though. A psyker is a mortal who can harness the powers of the Warp. Tzeentch can never enter the mortal realm so technically is not a psyker. He is more akin to a force of nature. Not a real being as we know it.

I'd have to go with the Emperor, with Magnus a close second.

I reckon daemon Magnus could probably take him now

I think in raw power and ability, I'd give it to Magnus. He's been pumping psychic steroids for most of his life without knowing it. The Emperor is basically fully aware, but won't play that game. Like all things in war, a psyker fight doesn't determine who is right, just who is left. Magnus would be the victor, but he'd be Tzeentchs favorite new pet from then on after.

Emperor is the only one with the will to focus the Astronomican. Magnus isn't mortal (like Tzeentch) and Eldrad's...well he's a jerk.

Emperor, obviously. Once he decided to actually go through with it he crushed Horus like an insect.

Tigurius is specifically mentioned in the fluff as being probably the second most powerful psyker in the Imperium.

Eldrad is dead but in life yes, top tier psyker

Magnus and Ahriman to round off the podium finishers.

 TheCaptain wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

otherwise it'd cover the entire galaxy (which isn't infinite, btw).

What.

The Shadow in the Warp is limited in range the same way that the Astronomican is limited in range. The Milky Way Galaxy is roughly 120k light years in diameter, thus not infinite.

I'd go with Magnus for now. Though The Emperor in his days before the throne would have been up there.

I think with the Emperor its hard to tell, because we only know of one instance where he used his powers in an offensive manor to kill. Pre-Prospero fall Magnus was cut off by Sisters of Silence, the Emperor wasn't. Post fall Magnus drops out of sight for an unspecified amount of time, but upon return raised his tower, played a part in moving the TS to the planet of Sorcerers.

Eldrad being physically dead may not be over for him, so his ability to return and continue is up in the air. Soul stones carrying aspects of him are meant to be in existence.

Ahriman would quickly take top spot if he gets into the Black Library of Chaos.

Tigurius I don't rate and forsee his death in the near future. Every other psyker to come in contact with the Hive Mind has taken control of the Tyranids for a time and then lost it and become a puppet to the Hive Mind. I imagine Tigurius is the same, but he doesn't realise he is being controlled yet. If he's fed certain info to keep him in the trusted file, he will escape suspicion.

MarsNZ wrote:
Tigurius is specifically mentioned in the fluff as being probably the second most powerful psyker in the Imperium.

Not to hop on the Ultramarines Hatemachine Bandwagon, but while Tigurius may be the most power psyker in the Imperium (though I hear Mephiston is a real firecracker), he doesn't hold a candle to the hilarious Psyker disco that were the Thousand Sons captains. I want to say it was Khalophis, Captain of the 6th Fellowship (Cult of Pyrae) that turned a broken ass Reaver titan into a fire spewing harbinger of space wolf doom.....and he wasn't even the strongest in the legion.

I think in this discussion, we're comparing characters in their prime....not currently. Big E, Eldrad, Magnus, Ahriman, and Malcador all make most current psykers look like the garbage pail kids. Mephiston and Tigurius certainly rank high on the list, but I think when it comes down to raw power and ability, you are looking at Big E, Eldrad, and Magnus.

*edit*
And as SkyD pointed out, I think our boy Ahzek would go to the top should he ever find his Black Library card. It'd be like giving Andre the Giant a huge bag of coke cut with PCP and releasing him in Disney World.

IMHO, the tiers goes like this:

1. The Emperor (I frankly find this inarguable)
2. Magnus the Red
3. Lorgar (Keep in mind that he was able to mentally duel Magnus from the other side of the galaxy, and telepathically command Horus. He is a very powerful psyker), Eldrad, Malcador, Ahriman
4. Various Alpha Plus Psykers seen occasionally, like the Apex Twins, or the Burning Princess
5. Chief-Librarians like Tigurius, Mephiston, or Njal (Killing a Bloodthirster psychically is no small feat, I wouldn't count him out when put against the likes of Meph or Tigurius)

I think if Ahriman gets into the Black Library , we will all be singing different tunes.

Station's Creation wrote:
I think if Ahriman gets into the Black Library , we will all be singing different tunes.

Anyone who gets into the Black library would be the strongest psyker.

 TheCaptain wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

otherwise it'd cover the entire galaxy (which isn't infinite, btw).

What.

Galaxies live inside the universe.
Galaxy = finite
Universe = infinite

Nerobellum wrote:
... all make most current psykers look like the garbage pail kids.

rofllmao
I haven't thought about garbage pail kids in years. That one made me giggle.

It's clearly draigo, he lives in the warp and fights demons 8 days a week!

the emperor is dead and fight daemons

haroon wrote:
It's clearly draigo, he lives in the warp and fights demons 8 days a week!

To be fair this may be a fair enough point. Very few are capable of becoming the best GK ever ( it states he rose fast and won awards unsupassed). And not a lot of GKs, never mind other psykers, could jusy stroll around the Warp without every Daemon and his Devildog on his back.

 Deadshot wrote:

haroon wrote:
It's clearly draigo, he lives in the warp and fights demons 8 days a week!

To be fair this may be a fair enough point. Very few are capable of becoming the best GK ever ( it states he rose fast and won awards unsupassed). And not a lot of GKs, never mind other psykers, could jusy stroll around the Warp without every Daemon and his Devildog on his back.

But he isnt the strongest psyker

You know, I heard Maugan Ra went for a walkie into the warp to rescue a whole craftworld coming out a millennium later unscathed and he isn't even a proper psyker. I don't see draigo doing that.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
You know, I heard Maugan Ra went for a walkie into the warp to rescue a whole craftworld coming out a millennium later unscathed and he isn't even a proper psyker. I don't see draigo doing that.

He is an Eldar.

Exactly, and every Eldar are psykers in their own right. Draigo is a mega awesome cheese marine, so he would have better chances in the warp.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Exactly, and every Eldar are psykers in their own right. Draigo is a mega awesome cheese marine, so he would have better chances in the warp.

The Emperor is better.

Actually, thinking on Ahriman, do any of the books show him using full power? I don't think he ever did on Prospero during the purging of the world. He was more commonly seen keeping himself in control of it, never going full force like the others who would then go on to mutate. He definitely doesn't in Atlas Infernal but is able to wear and make another marine appear to be him.

I can only really think of 2 points where he is shown using more than the norm. Helping to Move the surviving TS to the planet of the sorcerers and when he uses the Rubric.

I think with Grey Knights its not so much just the psyker ability that makes them strong but their full faith in the Emperor and being clad in armour with anti-daemonic wards, as well as having them all over their bodies and I believe under their skin. Draigo probably has the wards memorised so like reforging his blade within the warp, he knows how to replace the wards.

 Tomten wrote:

The Emperor is better.

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I can't believe Typhus is not mentioned what other psyker has the power to create endless hordes of the undead, after all who cares about what those loyalists can do when you can bring the dead back to life and overwhelm those psykers with endless Zombies plus he is the host of the destroyer hive the most deadliest plague ever which corrupted the Death Guard

(on another note didn't Maugan-Ra fight alone against a Tyranid swarm from Hive Fleet Leviathan and single-handedly wipe it out, like to see Draigo do that )

 GhostKnight31 wrote:
I can't believe Typhus is not mentioned what other psyker has the power to create endless hordes of the undead, after all who cares about what those loyalists can do when you can bring the dead back to life and overwhelm those psykers with endless Zombies plus he is the host of the destroyer hive the most deadliest plague ever which corrupted the Death Guard

(on another note didn't Maugan-Ra fight alone against a Tyranid swarm from Hive Fleet Leviathan and single-handedly wipe it out, like to see Draigo do that )

Plague Zombies are a virus, they can be created through sorcery but at heart it's a virus.

 blood reaper wrote:

 GhostKnight31 wrote:
I can't believe Typhus is not mentioned what other psyker has the power to create endless hordes of the undead, after all who cares about what those loyalists can do when you can bring the dead back to life and overwhelm those psykers with endless Zombies plus he is the host of the destroyer hive the most deadliest plague ever which corrupted the Death Guard

(on another note didn't Maugan-Ra fight alone against a Tyranid swarm from Hive Fleet Leviathan and single-handedly wipe it out, like to see Draigo do that )

Plague Zombies are a virus, they can be created through sorcery but at heart it's a virus.

Whatv kind of virus?