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 1hadhq wrote:
So deathwing in PA seems possible...

I'm guessing that tactical squad refers to tactical terminators, not pa marines.

And why does almost every rumor thread turn into a discussion about GW advertising policies? Take that somewhere else

More pictures:

Deathwing Command squad (incl. Plasma cannon)

Deathwing Details (incl. Watcher in the Dark)

Dark Angels Standard Bearer

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Does anyone think that the Bareheaded guy in the Command Squad looks a lot like the DV Chaos Lord?

jullevi wrote:
More pictures:

Deathwing Command squad (incl. Plasma cannon)

Deathwing Details (incl. Watcher in the Dark)

Dark Angels Standard Bearer

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The Standard Bearer looks a bit "retro", specifically the helmet.

Not only maces and flails, halberds too..

Indeed, I wonder if it actually isn't the old Jes Goodwin sculpt just with a new banner and left arm added.

EDIT: It looks like the torso's the same, at least. The old "Brother Bethor" sculpt had purity seals on his hem that the new one does not, however. http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics7/img41aa197bc32fd.jpg

 Deadshot wrote:
Does anyone think that the Bareheaded guy in the Command Squad looks a lot like the DV Chaos Lord?

GW's been using that pose a lot lately. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This is a case of it definitely not working. Aside from just looking overall stiff, it looks like the Commander just doesn't know what to do with his sword.

 blood reaper wrote:

jullevi wrote:
More pictures:

Deathwing Command squad (incl. Plasma cannon)

Deathwing Details (incl. Watcher in the Dark)

Dark Angels Standard Bearer

Mods: Please remove if inappropriate.

The Standard Bearer looks a bit "retro", specifically the helmet.

I'm pretty sure that standard bearer is the old metal one (obviously now finecast) with a new banner.and left arm.

As a non-DA player, but looking for whatever bits I might cannibalise for my Crimson Tears I can only really say that the Storm Shields interest me. Maybe a few other parts, but I certainly won't be buying any full kits.

Ravenwing Knights/Ravenwing Command - pretty good, obviously quite blinged up with iconography; not a fan of the slight variation on the Mk.6 helmets. Doesn't look right.

Deathwing knights - bleurgh. Power Mauls look like censors, Non-helmeted termies always look silly imo (but then I'm of the, all marines should be wearing helmets persuasion). robes on Terminators seem a bit silly too.

Belial - odd pose , far too static etc.

Deathwing - good range of options, nice use of DA iconography (though there's too much for them to be of much use to non DA players)

'Landspeeders' - Horrible, just horrible. Their rules must be amazing if GW expects people to buy these in anything approaching significant numbers.

Flier - Guess it looks okay, but I'm not a fan of the SM flier aesthetic or fliers in general.

Asmodai - need to have a better look, but at this point I prefer the old model.

Really liking the deathwing models. Going to buy a box of those for sure. Still think the price of the dark talon is ridiculous so i'll most likely convert one out of a storm talon. Hoping the deathwing box leaves me with enough stuff to.bling out the rest of my terminators after building some knights

Well ... looks like Darks Angels will remain my flagship army for this edition. Hadn't planed on changing that but was thinking about retiring from the hobby ... guess not lol

jullevi wrote:
More pictures:

Deathwing Command squad (incl. Plasma cannon)

Deathwing Details (incl. Watcher in the Dark)

Dark Angels Standard Bearer

Mods: Please remove if inappropriate.

Hmm, looks like some kind of Halberd there, on the Deathwing command squad.

Preorders should be up sometime today, looking forward to seeing some High-res pictures.

I do like how you can have both assault and tac terminators in a squad Really provides some good balance and support that each squad individually needed on their own

Thanks for the extra pictures.

I thought pre-orders were next Friday, the 5th?

 Souleater wrote:
Thanks for the extra pictures.

I thought pre-orders were next Friday, the 5th?

Maybe they are, but I thought preorders went up on the Last Saturday of every month.

 Alfndrate wrote:
I do like how you can have both assault and tac terminators in a squad Really provides some good balance and support that each squad individually needed on their own

Isn't that something DA have had for a while now?

I can't be sure, but I think so.

The new DA codex is opening up some interesting 'Counts As' Terminator army options...

Looking at the Termi in the back with lightningclaws... Is that the Space Hulk mini withDA icons in place of BA icons?

I hate the new look of DA. That landspeeder and flyers look terribad. Glad I sold them off recently.

 Chronepsis wrote:
Looking at the Termi in the back with lightningclaws... Is that the Space Hulk mini withDA icons in place of BA icons?

No, the arms are lower down and he has the other leg forward. Also, he has a riveted codpiece.

 Sasori wrote:

Maybe they are, but I thought preorders went up on the Last Saturday of every month.

IIRC one of the White Dwarf scans had the 5th as pre-order for release on the 12th of Jan.

I know a lot of people are really hating on the new speeders, but I for one can only see a great opportunity for some kit bashing to make them look superb.
Granted, one shouldn't have to kit bash to get a model looking "right" but this one should be easy.

The rumoured pricepoint suggested for the new speeders its whats putting me off atm, over twice the price of a standard speeder or storm for a slightly larger kit that I'm a little uneasy on seems really high to me (though I dont buy many tanks this could just be a personal thing)

Man I've been wanting a molded standard for the Brother Bethor forever. My freehand skills for big things like banners suck sack. I really hope they make a few more like they did for the Blood Angels. I'd also be very happy if they made tactical squad shoulder pads like the one on that standard bearer too. I was really surprised they didn't make a simple sword/wing pad before now. The metal ones suck and they're too small.

I really don't like Belial, and I think the DV Terminator Sarge would be better for him v

Just have to wonder. Will the players who stopped using the DA codex come back to using an actual DA codex or will they go back to a different codex and use "counts as" DA?

Davor wrote:
Just have to wonder. Will the players who stopped using the DA codex come back to using an actual DA codex or will they go back to a different codex and use "counts as" DA?

...That would depend, I guess?
Hey, if I have a bunch of PA marines with bolters and some special weapons, maybe a heavy weapon here and there, why wouldn't I get a couple of units out of a new marine 'dex and have fun playing that counts-as for a while? Keeps things fresh, keeps me painting stuff without starting a whole new army, if you play against a small group of opponents it gives them something fresh as well (and keeps them on their toes - who's to say you're bringing the most recent stuff today? ) and it's generally a fun way to enjoy the hobby.
I'm quite sure a lot of folks around here do that, too so yeah, some of us will play DA for a while. Some might even have some variation of green paint on their models
That doesn't mean they won't be playing with a different codex again 3 months from now, and another one the week after

Found this today, its in spanish but the pictures do all the talking. Even has some rules visible for Sammy, bit difficult to read some of the text as picture quality isn't optimal.

http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com.es/2012/12/rumores-fotos-de-la-white-dwarf-casi.html

From what i can make out i believe the Ravensword is strength user and AP 2, with a special rule that i can not make out!

Looks like he also comes with Hit and Run, Scout, Skilled rider and a Warlord trait that looks like Rapid Maneuver or Movement.

REALLY?!? I mean, that whole flier looks awesome, they've fixed everything there was to fix about the stormtalon and then some (okay it's still ridiculous but in an awesome way!) and they have to put a fethin' temple around it's hull?

I mean, I know a dremel some plasticard will fix that in half an hour's work but really? **THAT** close, GW, and yet you screw up...

Oh well, pictures seem to confirm there's a cyclone missile launcher with the deathwing termies. That's good

 Bolognesus wrote:
REALLY?!? I mean, that whole flier looks awesome, they've fixed everything there was to fix about the stormtalon and then some (okay it's still ridiculous but in an awesome way!) and they have to put a fethin' temple around it's hull?

Looking at the army shot in the link, it looks like there is an option to build it without the temple.

Would I be considered such a heretic to paint it green to fit in with my stormtalon?

Black is a bastard to highlight if nothing else and really, feth it! It's your army for pete's sake