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Yep, you mix Marvel and 40k and you get the Orks worshiping the Hulk and seeing him as the embodiment of Gork and Mork.
Yep.
That wont go so well.

And can the Borg really assimilate the Orks? Are the orks even capable of it?

The issue with the borg is that while they are ridiculous against the energy based weapons prevalent in the star trek universe when faced with kinetics they falter quickly.... and if the borg convert a few orks into borg, then more orks show up to take their place and the borg can be beaten if you bash em enough.

While the culture are certainly powerful, I feel like they are too bound up in morals to be able to wipe out the warhammer universe. Heck, I can see some sort of chaos invasion where they just warp into Minds and spreads some sort of techno virus to make some sort of obliterator Mind with no compunction to just wipe out the other side. The IoM certainly can be roasted easily enough but can you really destroy something like corruption or evil which by all accounts still can occur even in The Cultured society?

Heck I'd love to read some hybrid 40k + The Culture universe where the Minds try to deal with psykers lol. Random minder robots probably aren't gonna cut it vs the irrational or the warp bound illogic that is something like Tzeentch. Sanity is for the weak!

 sudojoe wrote:
While the culture are certainly powerful, I feel like they are too bound up in morals to be able to wipe out the warhammer universe.

You must have missed the part where there is a significant element of the Culture that believes in "freedom" in the American sense: you will accept our gift of "freedom" and the all of the changes we will make to modify your society to be the way we think it should be, or we'll just shoot your leadership and impose a new government anyway. And those Minds aren't above getting their hands dirty.

Heck, I can see some sort of chaos invasion where they just warp into Minds and spreads some sort of techno virus to make some sort of obliterator Mind with no compunction to just wipe out the other side. The IoM certainly can be roasted easily enough but can you really destroy something like corruption or evil which by all accounts still can occur even in The Cultured society?

How do you corrupt a god-like AI that already has more power than anything you can offer it, and only bothers to stick around in the physical universe out of a sense of duty to be a morally superior being and help the poor unfortunates around it that aren't lucky enough to be a Mind?

Heck I'd love to read some hybrid 40k + The Culture universe where the Minds try to deal with psykers lol. Random minder robots probably aren't gonna cut it vs the irrational or the warp bound illogic that is something like Tzeentch. Sanity is for the weak!

Given that the average Mind's idea of light entertainment is simulating entire universes just to see what happens I suspect that poor Tzeentch would be out-manipulated and left wondering WTF happened.

The Orkz simply loot/assimilate the Borg. Just ask Commander Marcius Flavius about the Bork.

Starship troopers (the Novel)

Didn't the Anti-Monitor from the DC Universe destroy entire realities? Can't help but think he could do it.

Anybody who collects the Infinity Gems and the Gauntlet basically becomes all-powerful in the Marvel Universe, so - whoever gets those together would be invincible.

On a planet by planet basis, Unicron from the Transformers might have a shot, since only the Matrix can destroy him.

I don't know a lot about the Culture, but I'm tipping they aren't equipped for sorcery and magic. I think the Warp and it's denizens might be a nasty little surprise for them.

have to go Kaldor on this one, I dont think alot of the scifi universes are equiped to deal with Sorcery and magic. I mean just one Alpha plus Psyker would steam a lot of the universes (ie being able to snap titans in two or destroy planets)

The Bolo universe. The huge numbers of gigantic mega tanks as big or bigger then titans with planet crushing firepower would be more then a match for the 40k Universe.

I was going to suggest mass effect, but hell no. The reapers would have a hell of a fright if they turned up in the 40k universe.

Many of the common suggestions get rolled by 40k. Star wars, star trek, Halo all have a smaller setting and are less focused on war. There would be no competition.

The Culture flattens everything so 40k is no problem for them. Nothing is.

I think Dr. Manhattan could solo the culture

Most of them?

Mass Effect doesn't have the scale of power that 40k does, and is overall somewhat less advanced.

Remember, they're relying on kinetic based weapons almost exclusively; almost all their tech is completely defenseless against energy weapons. A Kinetic Barrier won't stop a lance, lasgun, lascannon or so on. Amusingly, the Guard would enjoy higher success rate against a ME based force than Marines.

The Reapers are a different matter however, but would still be of only "moderate" concern compared to the Tyranids and Chaos. The Imperium faces extinction-level foes on a regular basis, it's a militarized setting like few others, Mass Effect is not; the reapers attacked a galaxy enjoying relative peace, with only humanity really actively building up their military, but it was still tiny, the Imperium of Man exists in perpetual war, to say nothing of the other races. It is not a setting which would roll out the welcome mat for the Reapers.

One setting I'd give good odds to is the Dr. Who universe; the series isn't focused on warfare, but the enormous scale of the setting, and penchant of some of the more pepperpot-looking races to shoot first, shoot second, shoot a third time, and then destroy all of reality just to be sure is rather, well, problematic.

Though for all we know, the Emperor is the 12th Doctor.

In reference to the comic universes (Marvel and DC) I would have to give it to Marvel, they are much more over the top than DC on things, namely things like Deadpool, or the Red Ghost Venom Hulk Rider (it's a thing, lemmie find the link, http://videoraiders.net/site/wp-content/uploads/Thaddeus_Ross_Earth-616_as_Ghost_Rider.jpg )

I have to throw in a vote for Marvel/DC steamrolling 40k. When you figure that there are singular entities within the Marvel Universe, particularly, that are capable of altering reality on a galactic scale, and additionally possess the freedom to act within the material plane, 40k looks like a sad panda.

As a side note, knowing nothing about 'the Culture', could Marvel and/or DC pose a credible threat to them?

I'd bet on Star Wars, actually, they're one of the few universes that has fleets on scale with some of the stuff that appears in 40k, and Jedi in combat with Space Marines would be fairly one-sided due to advantages of precognition and lightsabers (probably AP1 or 2).

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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

DrDuckman wrote:

However, most any other videogame or movie universe would fail, due to scale. Star Trek has suprerior technology, but would still fail due to firepower disparity, and MASSIVELY skewed numbers. Their ability to supernova stars might actually cripple the imperium, but most factions wont particularly care about it, and in a straight fight the average 40k Warship wins, and so does the average trooper... Granted, that's propably because star trek fighters tend to be terrible actors that make space marines look tactially compitent.

The Star Trek universe wins because they have Q. Numbers and technology is irrelevant to omnipotent beings.

That's optimistic. For one thing, they do seem to have SOME limitations. On the same scale, the 40k universe has several chaos gods, the emperor etc. And ofcourse bringing gods into the mix is a bit problematic for comparisons, as, you know, any universe that has an actual creator god wins.

At-will time travel alone means the Q are more powerful than anything in the 40k Universe, let alone the ability to teleport Starships across the Galaxy instantaneously.

I'd say the Honorverse could give the IoM a run for its money. pinpoint accurate missiles at 3-4 light minutes, real time FTL communication, proper FTL Propulsion, the starships manipulate gravity to protect themselves, and a small power (3 or so solar systems) managed to put into service 200 plus super dreadnaughts (4+ km long, 8+ million tons a piece).

Just thinking about it, every single piece of 40k IoM kit would be totally outclassed, probably only the necrons would stand a chance technology wise, the tyranids would be so much dead meat its unreal. and why would that be so? Honorverse missile duels don't have hundreds, or even thousands of missiles exchanged, they have tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of missiles fired in each volley (every 17+ seconds) and they are ship killers as well

Ooh, how about the Supreme Commander universe? Or would the SC's just get nuked quickly and that's that...

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

At-will time travel alone means the Q are more powerful than anything in the 40k Universe, let alone the ability to teleport Starships across the Galaxy instantaneously.

Maybe. But if Captain Picard can outsmart him/morally blackmail him, so can any given Eldar, Necron Lord, Space Marine with 200+ years life experience, etc.., etc.. .

Same really applies to a lot of the uber-powerful Marvel/DC stuff, etc.. . They have these big, bad ultimate bad-asses, but they keep getting put into place by things/beings of comparatively mundane power (Batman?). If that is true, they can likewise be beaten by things in the 40k-verse.


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 AnomanderRake wrote:
I'd bet on Star Wars, actually, they're one of the few universes that has fleets on scale with some of the stuff that appears in 40k, and Jedi in combat with Space Marines would be fairly one-sided due to advantages of precognition and lightsabers (probably AP1 or 2).

Not really.

If Boba Fett can (nearly) pwn Obi-Wan (Episode 2), how much chance does he stand against a Space Marine? Or 10?

None at all.

Really, if the Star Wars Empire can exterminate the Jedi with rag-tag Bounty Hunters, Clone Troopers and comic-relief droid-soldiers (and they did), so can the 40K Imperium with the various armies at its disposal.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

At-will time travel alone means the Q are more powerful than anything in the 40k Universe, let alone the ability to teleport Starships across the Galaxy instantaneously.

Maybe. But if Captain Picard can outsmart him/morally blackmail him, so can any given Eldar, Necron Lord, Space Marine with 200+ years life experience, etc.., etc.. .

There's more than 1 Q. If the Q Continuum wants to destroy the 40k Universe, they will.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:


There's more than 1 Q. If the Q Continuum wants to destroy the 40k Universe, they will.

Fair point.

Time travel capabilities (in an organised, I go where I want to go fashion) are just a killer either way I guess.

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 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:

 Admiral Valerian wrote:

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Dr. Whos universe..

He would just let the Daleks finish their reality bomb.

I remember at least one Overlord capable of time travel...he could just flash back and prevent the bomb from being made.

EDIT: Or the Daleks from existing in the first place.

LOL... the DR. would just sonic screwdriver the Overlord, and chuckle about silly toasters should not dabble in time travel, then eat a jelly baby. His race is call the TIMELORDS for a reason, and its universe vrs. universe.

(sorry buddy the Who universe wrote the book on time warfare , that would be like the Who universe getting in a who can shout heresy more compitition with the 40k universe..which the 40k universe would win easily.)

That last part did not make sense to me

There's also the Stormlord, who cannot be beaten by anyone with a shred of logic since said Overlord is supposed to have complete mastery of logic.

Hence why he would lose to then Doctor because the Doctor constantly acts in what most species consider an illogical manner.

More importantly You can't beat the Doctor thats the point.

Supreme Commander.

A universe where the most basic of units is the size of a Warhound Titan. Perhaps not the same firepower, but they can be produced in about 3 seconds by a factory. The biggest of units are kilometer tall robots with giant lasers and enormous landcrawling battleships. An army involving hundereds of these units can be created within a few hours on any planet in the galaxy. Resources are not a factor, as they draw matter straight from the planet itself, and can even convert energy into matter if necessary.

Supreme Commander's scale is ridicoulus and no other fictional universe can defeat them in open warfare.

 Marzillius wrote:

Supreme Commander's scale is ridicoulus and no other fictional universe can defeat them in open warfare.

Sure, they're powerful, but not THAT powerful. Again, there's no Time Travel technology or Ompipotent beings in Supreme Commander.

There's limited time travel, if I remember right. At least as far as 'freezing time' goes.

One thing I wasn't to sure on is quite the scale of SupCom, I would have thought the tier1 tanks wouldn't be much larger than the size of a normal tank.

Admittedly, that leaves things like Collosii being titan sized, but still...

Best case scenario for 40k, the SupCom forces act like scaled up metal tyranids. Which to be honest, isn't that great a scenario.

It's a bit like the culture in a way, the supcom universe is almost post-scarcity. They take mass, can turn it into whatever, eg factories that can construct more factories that can construct soldiers.

Vor: The Maelstrom has one of the most rediculous universes I have ever seen. Its an older model game no longer in production that was made by fasa in the 90's.

It involved worlds being sucked into an irreverible death orbit in which the planets slowly are sucked into the black hole known as the Maw which is in the center. The Maw eats the worlds, and none can servive. Each race fights each other for resources but inevitably will be destroyed.

Pretty sick. Awesome artwork and models too. Check it out. Oddly enough each year a few friends of mine and I get together to play it again. Wish it was still around. All the models can still be purchased and are now made by Iron Wind Metals.

Fictional ? God would destroy a universe if needbe. Fail that science would demand all the planets to be sucked back together from the big bang or a giant blackhole or the spice girls, scary spice could take on 10 abandons singlehandedly!

 Engine of War wrote:
The Bolo universe. The huge numbers of gigantic mega tanks as big or bigger then titans with planet crushing firepower would be more then a match for the 40k Universe.

As much as I like the Bolo universe, and giant tanks, I think 40k would crush them. Bolos are basically playing the same game as the titan legions, just in tank form, not giant walkers. They might have an edge in technology, but are going to be massively outnumbered by the IoM alone, not counting the xenos. Hellbores are just mega plasma guns, and infinite repeaters are comparable to heavy bolters. Depending on the mark, you could probably field one in an apocalypse game without much trouble.