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Hello all,

Im pretty new to 40k. I was just curious as to what kind of rude habits/tendancies and good manners you have all encountered in your time.

A buddy of mine literally flipped out when I rolled MY DICE ON MY TURN and AS THE DICE WERE FALLING I had my girlfriend blow on them 'for luck'. He freaked out saying that the laws of physics effected the dice roll and demanded that the di be re-rolled (the kicker is, the di roll favored HIM!).

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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard






Newcastle, OZ

Get a new friend.

My pet peeve is people who roll dice in secret (you never see more than 1 or 2 out of a handful) and pick up all of the "successful ones" before you get a chance to see any of them (the rest of us pick out the fails).


I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Similar to what chromedog says. People roll and quickly take away the dice before you get the chance to see them all. Even happens at tournaments sometimes...

   
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LoL ^^^

Thankfully out of the group that plays here on base (Im in the Air Force) we dont have anyone that tries to "hide" their dice rolls- which I would consider EXTREMELY shady. Why would you hide it? Its not a matter of trust, its a matter of honesty. Name one other board game where you HIDE your moves.

We also had to make a rule about no drinking during a 40k game. Granted, that was my fault. It was my birthday and in our 'dorms' I decided to celebrate. A few of my non-40k playing friends showed up, one thing led to another and I turned into a drunken ass on in the 3rd turn of a game. Yeah.... bad news when the green tide is on the table. Haha, if you were a 'fly on the wall' I could imagine it would be funny to laugh at... not to play against. I learned my lesson.

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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator




-rolling and snatching dice away too quickly
-rolling the scatter dice a mile away from the target and veering
-claiming line of sight even though you couldn't see them last time with the same unit
-massaging dice
-rolling dice with a whoop that sounds like an excited hamster in ecstasy
-being 'generous' with movement/measurement
-walking away from the table with no explanation and delaying the game for unknown reasons.
-banging the table in anger
   
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 Spyral wrote:

-rolling the scatter dice a mile away from the target and veering
-being 'generous' with movement/measurement


These
   
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 Spyral wrote:
-rolling and snatching dice away too quickly
-rolling the scatter dice a mile away from the target and veering
-claiming line of sight even though you couldn't see them last time with the same unit
-massaging dice
-rolling dice with a whoop that sounds like an excited hamster in ecstasy
-being 'generous' with movement/measurement
-walking away from the table with no explanation and delaying the game for unknown reasons.
-banging the table in anger


-Veering is DEFINITLEY a huge issue amongst new players.
-Can you explaing "massaging dice"?
-Being generous seems onloy to happen with people who dont set rulers down on the table.
-Banging the table is UNFORGIVABLE

**A new one I thought of is people who only extend the tape measure to the EXACT amount. Extend it beyond so I can see everything please. When you 'short' it, it seems like you could be cheating yourself/others, but mainly yourself. I hate double checking someones own measurements.

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I don't like it when people "splash" the dice. That is throw the dice really high or far so they bounce all over/off the table and/or knock over models.
   
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Norway (Oslo)

When people lie about their point list... thus iv'e started to ask them show me their list written before we play. (i dont mean like on day ahead so i can counter that said list).. more like 1min before start of game^^

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 Al2ies wrote:

**A new one I thought of is people who only extend the tape measure to the EXACT amount. Extend it beyond so I can see everything please. When you 'short' it, it seems like you could be cheating yourself/others, but mainly yourself. I hate double checking someones own measurements.


I do this, but not out of any malice! To me it makes measuring more accurate, since it's very clear where the start and end are. What do you mean by 'see everything'? I don't want to annoy anyone with this down the road. :(

   
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phatonic wrote:
When people lie about their point list... thus iv'e started to ask them show me their list written before we play. (i dont mean like on day ahead so i can counter that said list).. more like 1min before start of game^^


I'm guilty of this, but not on purpose. Usually it's just my fault because I forgot to add the price of a Plasma Pistol here or something. Im happy to correct it if someone notices, because if they don't I likely won't hahaha

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 Evertras wrote:
 Al2ies wrote:

**A new one I thought of is people who only extend the tape measure to the EXACT amount. Extend it beyond so I can see everything please. When you 'short' it, it seems like you could be cheating yourself/others, but mainly yourself. I hate double checking someones own measurements.


I do this, but not out of any malice! To me it makes measuring more accurate, since it's very clear where the start and end are. What do you mean by 'see everything'? I don't want to annoy anyone with this down the road. :(


The reason I dont generally like it is because the tape measure itself or the "shell" of it is kind of in the way to possibly other players on the table. I like to extend it a few inches past just so the number is not covered or obscured in anway way. Its just a pet peeve for me- and quite possibly, maybe its just me. Im all about making things as open as possible in the game. Earlier today, I realized I didnt move two flyers on a table FULL of them. I said outloud that i forgot to move them and of course, the other players jumpedo n the chance to say they both just crashed. I left it up to them- show me a little reprieve and I will allow you the same later. BUT, mental bookmark, I wont allow them the same in the future- even though I generally would allow it.

***Another thing I dont like is when someone will quickly pull the "Oops you forgot something, cant go back and fix it!!" Yet when they catch their mistakes in a different phase, they are quick to pull di and start rolling to correct them.***

'ERE WE GO!!  
   
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Hutto, TX

for me, its bad sportsmanship. be as gracious of a loser as you are a winner, and visa versa.

I can't stand people letting their dice roll into the active playing field. they get confused with markers or counters and I've had them move models.

craps dice. they look cool, when you're playing craps. you look like an idiot trying to roll 20 craps dice on a battle top (happenned to me, guy rolled 20 craps dice in a GW table)

oh and have some class. same guy as craps guy, threw and actual tempter tantrum when he made a bad roll. jumping up and down and flailing. dude was 26 (I asked him)

my cardinal sin though, do NOT touch my mini's without asking me first. I have spent a lot of time on them, and some of them are old and fragile. i'm usually ok, but please just ask.




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United Kingdom

Maybe this is just me being British, but it annoys me when players don't offer a friendly hand shake before and after the game.

   
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- People rolling dice one at a time (god forbid they're a guard player).
- Leaving things on the table like soda cans or books and claiming to not remember if it was their as last minute terrain or just a mistake and insisting it's terrain as their unit hides behind it (Yes that has happened to me a few times).
- People not knowing "how to explain their troops abilities", had an Eldar player do this. One of his guys did something, don't ask me it was yonks ago and when I asked them to explain what exactly to ability did, they couldn't explain it in words but they knew what it was supposed to do.
   
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The things that annoy me the most are whining, sighing and despondently throwing dice when thing don't go EXACTLY their way.

Also both losing and winning gracefully is really important.

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phatonic wrote:
When people lie about their point list... thus iv'e started to ask them show me their list written before we play. (i dont mean like on day ahead so i can counter that said list).. more like 1min before start of game^^


Well don't seem we could play a good game. I use battlescribe on my phone to make my lists I dont use paper or pen hardly.
   
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 Spyral wrote:
-rolling the scatter dice a mile away from the target and veering
-being 'generous' with movement/measurement


My friends and I are very lax when it comes to the game - like, measuring for one model when just 'guesstimating' the rest of the unit as long as none move further than the first and the last doesn't move a ridiculous amount, but one friend is massively guilty of both of those.

He'll frequently measure the first model he moves from the front of the base, and move it so the back of the base is where he measured to to gain some extra movement. And scatter die - for feths sake. Even if we roll the scatter near where the shot landed, he'll turn the whippy stick we're using for direction to favour him as he moves it over the place of impact. Like, it'll be right next to the marker, and his stick will be at about 45 degrees in another direction to point away from his models/towards my models.

He's fun to play against, but those those two things he does piss me off. I've called him on it so many times, and he just keeps doing it.

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Arguing a rule I know for a fact is wrong. For example, I could probably rhyme off most o the SM, Nid and GK rules word for word, probably the BRB and Orks too, and certainly the 5th ed book.

But I have had people tell me things I know are wrong, and even though I let it pass because I want to play the game, I know. Like, someone told me the GK power Psychic Communion could be used in the opponents turn, thus allowing +/- 1 to the opponent's reserves. False.

Or telling me that you can mix Codex Psychic Powers with rulebook powers. This one guy I know is adamant that Mephiston can roll on Biomancy in the hope of Iron Arm and Endurance whilst retaining either Wings of Sanguinius or Sanguine Sword.

And another guy is convinced that Techmarines can revive wrecks.

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 -Loki- wrote:

My friends and I are very lax when it comes to the game - like, measuring for one model when just 'guesstimating' the rest of the unit as long as none move further than the first and the last doesn't move a ridiculous amount, but one friend is massively guilty of both of those.


I like the FoW attitude - declare intention. So if you have 120 orks or nids to move in units of 30 move the first row as honestly the rest don't matter once they don't overshoot.

Massaging dice is when they shake them for all of about 5 minutes with some sort of masterbatory action, usually not even rolling it, more vibrating the dice in their hand...
   
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Norway (Oslo)

lynxstrife wrote:
phatonic wrote:
When people lie about their point list... thus iv'e started to ask them show me their list written before we play. (i dont mean like on day ahead so i can counter that said list).. more like 1min before start of game^^


Well don't seem we could play a good game. I use battlescribe on my phone to make my lists I dont use paper or pen hardly.


But there you got a list! aslong you got a list i dont mind

Waagh like a bawz

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6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)

 
   
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 Rimmy wrote:
for me, its bad sportsmanship. be as gracious of a loser as you are a winner, and visa versa.

I can't stand people letting their dice roll into the active playing field. they get confused with markers or counters and I've had them move models.

craps dice. they look cool, when you're playing craps. you look like an idiot trying to roll 20 craps dice on a battle top (happenned to me, guy rolled 20 craps dice in a GW table)

oh and have some class. same guy as craps guy, threw and actual tempter tantrum when he made a bad roll. jumping up and down and flailing. dude was 26 (I asked him)

my cardinal sin though, do NOT touch my mini's without asking me first. I have spent a lot of time on them, and some of them are old and fragile. i'm usually ok, but please just ask.
What are craps dice? I googled them, and it just looks like normal dice...
   
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Hutto, TX

lettuceman44 wrote:
 Rimmy wrote:
for me, its bad sportsmanship. be as gracious of a loser as you are a winner, and visa versa.

I can't stand people letting their dice roll into the active playing field. they get confused with markers or counters and I've had them move models.

craps dice. they look cool, when you're playing craps. you look like an idiot trying to roll 20 craps dice on a battle top (happenned to me, guy rolled 20 craps dice in a GW table)

oh and have some class. same guy as craps guy, threw and actual tempter tantrum when he made a bad roll. jumping up and down and flailing. dude was 26 (I asked him)

my cardinal sin though, do NOT touch my mini's without asking me first. I have spent a lot of time on them, and some of them are old and fragile. i'm usually ok, but please just ask.
What are craps dice? I googled them, and it just looks like normal dice...


the problem with craps dice is they are made from a certain type of plastic with very sharp edges and they're pretty big, so they don't roll well on hard surfaces and they tend to take up a LOT fo space when you have to roll more than a couple of them. (craps tables are padded felt) so they just kind of thunk down on the table. if you do it right, you can cheese your way into managing your rolls.

they're not illegal in anyway and yes they are just dice. but find a pair and try them out. they just don't work as well on a tabletop game.




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Well, some of my pet peeves are;
- Not having a clear & neatly written/typed army list and/or not having your damn codex!
I hate playing against people who constantly "forget" their codex but swear they know every rule so it's okay...

And I'm sorry guys, but in general, I find that men have horrific penmenship. So, if your chicken-scratch writing requires the use of the Rosetta Stone to help translate it into something almost resembling written english, then for feth's sake type your list out!


- Picking up your dice before your opponent can see the results and/or rolling your dice out of sight so your opponent can't see.

- List tailoring. 'Nuff said!

- Smelling highly offensive. How hard is it to shower and use a little bit of soap?!
At the very least, if say you're coming to the local store from work/sports, is it too hard to have a change of clothes and some de-oderent? There's nothing worse than trying to play a game when Uncle Nurgle's lovechild is stinking up the place!

- Whining about unlucky dice. We all have those games where the dice gods like to kick us square in the junk. Happens to me all the time - heck, I've never once passed Cypher's 4++ on 3D6! I've tabled myself through plasma overheats, or failed 90% of my power armour saves, or failed to even glance any vehicle all game, or blown-up my psykers rolling boxcars, or killed my own entire unit by grenading a dreadnought...
Just laugh it off! It's a game of toy soldiers afterall, and sometimes happens.

- Poor sportmanship.

 
   
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Mine have pretty much already been said:
people who roll the scatter dice too far away which makes it harder to match up the direction of scatter
people who roll their dice so hard that the dice roll two feet across the table and into models and such
list tailoring bugs me as well ("oh, you're playing marines? let me bust out all the AP2 guns I can find..."), but I'm more or less resigned to it after 16 years of playing

I prefer to use casino dice myself (or craps dice, as others called it) because I like my dice to actually be random in their results. But that's a discussion that's been done in other threads.

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- Walking away from the table for no reason, especially during my turn. I don't want to do anything while they're gone 'cause that seems shady, but at the same time... where did they go?

- Getting in conversations with other people after I start doing something (rolling to hit, wound, psychic power, etc) and then forget what I'm doing and stop me.

- Picking up successful dice instead of failures.

- LIST TAILORING. I hate this one so much, if you feel like you need to write a new list when you hear I'm playing Eldar, I don't want to play you.

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Can I ask what the perceived difference or problem is with picking up successful instead of failed dice?

   
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Eldercaveman wrote:
Can I ask what the perceived difference or problem is with picking up successful instead of failed dice?

It's a much more shifty thing to do because when picking up failed dice, your opponent can see that everything left on the table is a success. When you pick up successes, especially if there were a lot of dice thrown or if it was really soon after rolling, the opponent has no way of knowing if the dice they picked up were actually successes or failures. I always make a point to pick up fails, unless it's something like snap shots where you need 6's in which case I'll clearly move them off to the side, but not cover them at any point, rather than pick up huge handfuls of dice.

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Eldercaveman wrote:
Can I ask what the perceived difference or problem is with picking up successful instead of failed dice?


If your opponent picks up an extra die that was actually a success but he calls it a failure... well that's your opponent's fault.
If your opponent picks up an extra die that was actually a failure but he calls it a success... well now you have a problem.

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Ok i guess it's only a problem when playing pick up games or tournaments, well any game that's not against someone you know and trust,

   
 
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