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 catharsix wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
Google Reverse Image Search is fun... and mostly works.

*REVERSE* image search? How does one access this arcane faculty of the magic-fire-box?

Goto Google Image Search, in the search box is a little camera icon. Click on it, enter the URL of an image and hit search.

 catharsix wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
Google Reverse Image Search is fun... and mostly works.

*REVERSE* image search? How does one access this arcane faculty of the magic-fire-box?

Why dont you google it?

Googling for google....


Anyways back to GoA

 kenshin620 wrote:

Anyways back to GoA

Will Google have taken over the Earth by the time frame of GoA?

Only the c3. The Isorians belong to Bing.

That would make for an interesting faction.



Long lost corporate expedition is isolated from humanity and develops into its own civilization.

That 3C Trooper looks pretty cool, he would'nt look out of place in the Ma.K universe.

Kinda reminds me of the Grineer from Warframe in a strange way:

 Melcavuk wrote:
Due to public demand the team have opened up a poll on the inclusion of female models in the kickstarters rewards, there has been a significant number of people expressing interest in the option of the team reconsidering so the poll with gauge if there is a true demand:

Rick's stated goal is for the women in this game to be as equally integrated into the background as the men, and for their proportions to be anatomically realistic as opposed to the approach some other companies have taken. He commented on how the production of female miniatures would not be as much of a launch priority due to female miniatures historically having proven to be less desirable purchases. There has been some posting in various locations that there may be a higher level of interest in female figures than they are aware of, however, and DSC has said they are willing to reevaluate their position and produce female miniatures faster if there is sufficient interest. Keep in mind, this is to help steer production plans, NOT a contract graven in stone. Here's a link to the poll and discussion on the inclusion of female miniatures: http://www.darkspacecorp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1055

 Melcavuk wrote:

Buzzsaw wrote: Not to say it deserves to fail, but surely it's now reached the point of being objectively true that this campaign has been badly managed.As an example, consider that poll posted above... posted by a random user here, posted by a random backer in the comments section of the campaign. Why? This is theoretically a huge deal, why isn't the poll in an update, which would direct the attention of the entire backer base to it, and would be readily available to be seen by non-backers. The managers didn't push it because... something.

It also reinforces the painfully raw impression that the managers don't know what they are doing. Rick mentions that there probably isn't enough commercial appeal for female models the way they want as part of the initial campaign. Okay, he's the professional, presumably that statement was based on something. But now, suddenly, public demand has caused them to reassess this? Where? In the Kickstarter forum on their own forums*? Why did Rick just rethink this? Was he just making it up earlier? Had a little snoot full and made something up? They do a 180 on a very expensive and difficult topic, because...?

Yeash.

Hey sorry, The Poll was posted up by a forum mod on the Dark Space Forums because it was decided that gauging community interest after a few people both here and there stated that there was a real demand for female miniatures. I then cross posted it both on Dakka and Kickstarters, whilst I am a moderator over on Dark Space forums I a just a random backer both here and Dakka. In short yes whilst it appears the transfer of the polls and the spread of information was random it was undertaken by members of the forum team over there to here.

Okay, wait... Who are the people being talked about here? Are DSC employees (that is, people paying bills/being paid) reconsidering this decision, or is this simply lobbying by the forum team, or...?

Who posted the poll and who is looking at it is important, and the fact that it was done in such a way that a miniscule number of people are aware of it is not a point in favor of organization. As a point of reference, right now this campaign has an anemic 920 backers, but that poll has a truly miniscule 57 votes (~6% of backers). This issue is a major, major undertaking, without a really big sample, how can they make an informed decision?

Ugh.

The poll was approved by the DSC team (not forum team) to be posted. It was posted up by a mod but only with the approval of a member of DSC staff.

 kenshin620 wrote:

 catharsix wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
Google Reverse Image Search is fun... and mostly works.

*REVERSE* image search? How does one access this arcane faculty of the magic-fire-box?

Why dont you google it?

Googling for google....


Anyways back to GoA

I thought about that after writing my post, but thought I'd let the question stand. Glad it generated at least one amusing joke

Back to the main topic, even if GoA KS fails, at least it has provided the ravening hordes of Dakka with something to argue about for a month or so...

-C6

 Melcavuk wrote:
The poll was approved by the DSC team (not forum team) to be posted. It was posted up by a mod but only with the approval of a member of DSC staff.

Ah, good info. Might want to poke the guys that make the updates and point out they need to put a link to that poll in an update so more causal backers/potential backers are aware it exists.

The second image is by Kopinski and depicts the UNA from AT-43 by Rackham.

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:
The poll was approved by the DSC team (not forum team) to be posted. It was posted up by a mod but only with the approval of a member of DSC staff.

Ah, good info. Might want to poke the guys that make the updates and point out they need to put a link to that poll in an update so more causal backers/potential backers are aware it exists.

Good idea

 Melcavuk wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:
The poll was approved by the DSC team (not forum team) to be posted. It was posted up by a mod but only with the approval of a member of DSC staff.

Ah, good info. Might want to poke the guys that make the updates and point out they need to put a link to that poll in an update so more causal backers/potential backers are aware it exists.

Good idea

Agreed

As much as we like "official forums", a surprising amount of people never actually visit them.

Heck even unofficial forums arent the end all be all, I bet a good majority of KS supporters arent even aware of sites like Dakka or Warseer

I would like to see what this guy's armor looked like when it was new...

Damn right. They need to stop fething around and just get their armoured space troopers / space marines / gears / spartans out there in both concept art and greens form.

 scipio.au wrote:
Damn right. They need to stop fething around and just get their armoured space troopers / space marines / gears / spartans out there in both concept art and greens form.

Agreed. It's time for the money shot, literally.

 kenshin620 wrote:
I knew it

They were gonna do greatcoats in space

They just need a Gasmask for him now....

Hmmm. You can almost see these coming. I reckon one of the next concepts will be of the hi-tech trooper trope - similar to FW Elysians or SW Samaritans. They're almost getting to the point of phoning these in from the pub

Edit:
I know the Wardrones are early days yet, but is anyone else getting a Star Wars battledroid feeling off of it?

Love Kevs work on the Wardrones thus far and will probobly increse myt pledge to get MORE of the 'lil suckers!

As much as I like Kev's work, I honestly want to see MORE!

That poll is a nonissue, by the way. Your asking something like that when every tom dick and harry is trying to go about putting out some females. Most of them are stripper bodies, with a gun. Contrary to poluar belief, Women don't fight like that.
Want to make them a little more realistic, with less proportional, and just a little smaller, with some armor or forge them something that they actually bring to the table aside from a set of tits.

(This one is an infiltrator, this one is a sniper, this one is a gearead, she can cobble together equipment for your teams....)

I'll throw the gauntlet down too, If I see a woman on the table, I'd be targeting her, or making it a point to snatch her up. You put her on the battlefield, she's apriority target to me. ( SHe's out there for some reason, I'll grease her and worry about why later.)

The "Females", need to just be honestly part of the unit (ANY unit) at this point, not that we know what exactly a unit comprises of.

Of course they are going to end up with the obliquitous G string armor with an additional stripper poll for 5 bucks.

How may named characters, aside from Hansa are we expecting? Why not have one of the special characters ( A second, or third) be female, and give her some sort of special weapon, and call it a day?

Those Furries, too. When exactly are we looking to see some greens for those?

The wardrones look ok. How many weapons loadouts can they have? Do you put some team equipment on them to carry around? Are they in the same vain as a mech? DO I drive it around?

How about setting up a section on the website for the factions, and whats on deck right now?

How about an update on the units, as thier progression moves forward?

At this point, its rules discussion, and greens time. PLEASE, expand on what we have seen so far and not worry so much about more open ended theory hammer.

You have a solid baseline to start from with what we have seen on hand. Its time to push on and start the greens for at the vary least one of each.

Even starting work picks would be a heck of an update.

How about the background for one of the planets, or the Astroid Belt, or one of the war zones?

What are we looking at for ships and vehicles, by the way?

ETC.ETC. ETC.

IMO, the new Sedition Wars females should be a good bar for what female plastics should be. They're great looking models, are proportiohnate, and actually look like they can handle themselves without being over-the-top.

The pose of the helmeted females is a bit over the top though, don't you think?

Don't get me wrong - I love the models in the set too!

Update form the Kickstarter:

Hello everyone

We've been working on many things during the last 30 days since we launched our Kickstarter and one of the things we've been wanting to do is to give incentives to clubs & stores to back us. So we racked our brains and came up with a plan. Today we reveal the start of that plan in the form of Global Club Stretch Goals!

It's a simple system that tracks backers and gives points based on pledge amount + a bonus for when you backed us(the earlier the bigger the bonus!) + a bonus for certain levels of backers in your club. Those points are then pooled together to form stretch goals with which we award rewards, those rewards are Global rewards in that EVERY backer gets to take part in them. Here's a graphic that explains it:

Spoiler:

To view the league go here: http://www.darkspacecorp.com/xxxGoA/Reports/league_tables.php

Please bear with us, we're still developing the page - as you'll notice. The next phase of this plan will be to roll out the Individual Club Rewards and we're hoping to do this later this week. If you happen to spot any issues please PM a moderator on the forums.

If every backer joined up right now, we'd smash through the 1.5m goal and give all the previous rewards instantly to everyone! Hurrah!

If your club isn't in the drop down list on your user profile, simply go here and follow the instructions

See you later for our Boromite update

Rik

Sorry about the large picture size all, its the only one availble, sounds like Boromite concepts will be up later as well so stay tuned.

 Alpharius wrote:
The pose of the helmeted females is a bit over the top though, don't you think?

Don't get me wrong - I love the models in the set too!

Well you land of a fundamental problem, all things equal, a female human in realistic combat gear should look the same as a slim male, more so if hard armour is applied add to that a wargames scale and you land on a big question of how to distinguish a female and a male model ont he tabletop.

Making the armour curvy and more "celebratory" to the female body is one end of solution, applying a more "female" posture is the other and of course an in between approach in not half bad too.

 Grot 6 wrote:
As much as I like Kev's work, I honestly want to see MORE!

That poll is a nonissue, by the way. Your asking something like that when every tom dick and harry is trying to go about putting out some females. Most of them are stripper bodies, with a gun. Contrary to poluar belief, Women don't fight like that.
Want to make them a little more realistic, with less proportional, and just a little smaller, with some armor or forge them something that they actually bring to the table aside from a set of tits.

(This one is an infiltrator, this one is a sniper, this one is a gearead, she can cobble together equipment for your teams....)

I'll throw the gauntlet down too, If I see a woman on the table, I'd be targeting her, or making it a point to snatch her up. You put her on the battlefield, she's apriority target to me. ( SHe's out there for some reason, I'll grease her and worry about why later.)

The "Females", need to just be honestly part of the unit (ANY unit) at this point, not that we know what exactly a unit comprises of.

Of course they are going to end up with the obliquitous G string armor with an additional stripper poll for 5 bucks.
.

Are you being sarcastic? That was THE ENTIRE POINT of the topic they have had on the GoA Forum.

I don't do sarcasm.

I was less then impressed with the website, so I only check it like once every couple of weeks. I'm not a fan of the crowd, there.


I agree with the Sedition Wars comment though. Wasn't expecting the bigheaded helmet thing they have going on.

 Alpharius wrote:
The pose of the helmeted females is a bit over the top though, don't you think?

Don't get me wrong - I love the models in the set too!

Because she's sticking her bottom out a little bit? Yeah, I guess I can see that, but I honestly didn't even notice until you mentioned it. I think it was an easy way to distinguish the model as female, as that's clearly not a male stance.

It does kind of break what was otherwise an promising model a bit. Still, good models, all of them. And at least the characters are quite sensible


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It does kind of break what was otherwise an promising model a bit. Still, good models, all of them. And at least the characters are quite sensible

 cincydooley wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
The pose of the helmeted females is a bit over the top though, don't you think?

Don't get me wrong - I love the models in the set too!

Because she's sticking her bottom out a little bit? Yeah, I guess I can see that, but I honestly didn't even notice until you mentioned it. I think it was an easy way to distinguish the model as female, as that's clearly not a male stance.

Really?

You didn't notice?

That's why this issue is such a problem. Because the stance is only silly when we make men do it.

 Rolt wrote:
Update form the Kickstarter:

Hello everyone

We've been working on many things during the last 30 days since we launched our Kickstarter and one of the things we've been wanting to do is to give incentives to clubs & stores to back us. So we racked our brains and came up with a plan. Today we reveal the start of that plan in the form of Global Club Stretch Goals!

It's a simple system that tracks backers and gives points based on pledge amount + a bonus for when you backed us(the earlier the bigger the bonus!) + a bonus for certain levels of backers in your club. Those points are then pooled together to form stretch goals with which we award rewards, those rewards are Global rewards in that EVERY backer gets to take part in them. Here's a graphic that explains it:

Spoiler:

To view the league go here: http://www.darkspacecorp.com/xxxGoA/Reports/league_tables.php

Please bear with us, we're still developing the page - as you'll notice. The next phase of this plan will be to roll out the Individual Club Rewards and we're hoping to do this later this week. If you happen to spot any issues please PM a moderator on the forums.

If every backer joined up right now, we'd smash through the 1.5m goal and give all the previous rewards instantly to everyone! Hurrah!

If your club isn't in the drop down list on your user profile, simply go here and follow the instructions

See you later for our Boromite update

Rik

Sorry about the large picture size all, its the only one availble, sounds like Boromite concepts will be up later as well so stay tuned.

It's... it's uncanny.

This campaign is following the example of the Through the Breach campaign so closely it's... it is too close to be a coincidence. Moving the conversation from the campaign page to the private forums and interacting in big infodumps? Check! Huge redundant videos? Check!

Now? Ooooh, a non-stretch goal stretch goal that's a) not based on money, and b) opaque to the casual viewer of the campaign. Awesome!

Perhaps we should start a pool on when Rick Priestly will catch a biscuit in his mouth...

You beat me to it Buzz....

I wonder if were going to see one of the formly quiet developers come in and breath some life into the campaign.