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BLITZKREIG!!!!!!

Excellent. The extra infantry stretch has been hit. Now this game comes into its own.

I like the added purchase items. More tiles huh? Hehehehe...

I'm in for an extra tile set anyway 18 tiles will give a 3x6 or 4x4 set up. I've edited my previous post to put all the upcoming stretch goals in order they are only $5k apart until $250k at least. CMON seem to have acknowledged the slow down in the last few days.

Well that’s pretty normal for a KS from everything I’ve seen. Big rush in the first two days, a high third day, then it sits basically level until the last 2-5 days. The exceptions come when a really good purchasable stretch goal comes along, then you see a spike.

Well, at 5k between stretch goals, it seems there will be alot added to this relatively quickly. I went ahead and added 15$ for the tiles as I thought that would help make the game much better.

Also, I see some complaining and what not on Dakka at times, but holy crap is the comment section on the actual KS a disaster of petty whining and bickering. Maybe I haven't hung around the internet long enough, but its getting a little silly over there.

I've pretty much given up reading the comments it's by far the worst I've seen and I think it's actually putting potential and current backers off having to read through some of what's been put there. I feel bad for Ted it's his game and vision and yet he has to read through that every day.

I tried to get on there and lighten the mood... worked for about 10 minutes. Oh well, at least we're hitting stretch goals. I do wish people realize they're hurting their own cause as I feel that all the negativity is probably driving people away as you said.

I haven't been active in the comments section of this kickstarter and wont ask you to summarize the discontent found there for fear it may infect Dakka. However, it's surprising to know that it's there. I'm not sure what people would bicker over.


Anyway, I haven't upped my pledge yet but I'm definitely going in on those vertical tanks. Soon enough it'll be 4 tanks for $20; how can you pass that up? The Lanskriegers will be mine!

 squall018 wrote:
I tried to get on there and lighten the mood... worked for about 10 minutes. Oh well, at least we're hitting stretch goals. I do wish people realize they're hurting their own cause as I feel that all the negativity is probably driving people away as you said.

Yeah, there are one or two very overzealous fans of the game and several $1 who really seem to really hate the game and they are just winding each other up over and over again (there are also a number of $1 backers who are providing constructive criticism). I did try to politely point out that they risk scaring off potential new backers once and get a whole lot of grief for it so now I only post on the Comments section to answer questions (and I only answer if I have seen CMON answer the question previously).

I am happy with the new stretch goals, they add a few new canon Blitz exclusive units which is what a lot of people were after and them being larger units is also a nice touch.

Edit: One thing I have noticed is that with earlier Kickstarters CMON have been called up on being unprofessional but they seem to be doing a much better job this time around and have even kept the snide comments to themselves so far.

BTW, someone dropped a blitzkrieg x2 early special, if anyone's interested

YouTube comments.

They are no different to YouTube commends.

Treat them as such.




Anyway, the short distance between stretch goals is really nice. I think I'll add a second set of tiles when I get home (as I think this game would really benefit from a larger playing area.

There have been quite a few early bird spots opening up today (6 that I have seen) which I don't really understand. If you liked something that much to get in there early but not happy with how things have turned out then why not wait until closer to the end of the campaign before backing out just in case the stretch goals change to more things you are interested in? (I know there are other reasons to back out but a lot of people who have stated it's because they were not happy with the stretch goals).

I haven't been reading it either, but what are people bitching about now?

Aeneades wrote:
There have been quite a few early bird spots opening up today (6 that I have seen) which I don't really understand. If you liked something that much to get in there early but not happy with how things have turned out then why not wait until closer to the end of the campaign before backing out just in case the stretch goals change to more things you are interested in? (I know there are other reasons to back out but a lot of people who have stated it's because they were not happy with the stretch goals).

Other than "vocally" showing their displeasure by backing out and not looking back, yeah, I don't really get it-- if I were discouraged but not pissed, I'd hang on, since, well, I might change my mind (again).

@Cincydooley. Several people love the design of the miniatures but have a very big dislike for CMON (one was going on about how people should buy Dust rather then support Rivet Wars and was linking to Dust deals in online stores). A few people have bid $1 just to be able to troll the forum. A few people have bid $1 as they are interested in the model designs but not the game and are offering criticsm (some constructive, some not) on what it would take for them to buy the game. A couple of people are massive fans of the game and just post about how amazing the game is along with really bad suggestions as to how they would improve the game (adding aliens seems to be a recurring theme). Each of these groups also seems to hate each other and will use any excuse to start making personal attacks. Mods have been through the comment section now and deleted most of the offending posts, issued warnings and possibly banned some people so it doesn't seem so bad now. First time I have seen a comments page kick off that badly before!

Should support Dust instead of Rivet Wars? What? One is a wargame, the other is a boardgame. Why even make that comparison?

And why do people hate CMON so much?

I'll be honest I'm not a backer and was sceptical of the value of the blitzkrieg package. However the stretch goals have definitely turned that around blitzkrieg has pulled into the lead for value for those interested in the game. Personally for me the aesthetic doesn't do it for me though the gameplay looks good. Also prebuilt pushes this much into the more traditional board game territory which is a good thing for those of us with a mini mountain and more to come from other kick starters. Out of the box playability is definitely a plus.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Should support Dust instead of Rivet Wars? What? One is a wargame, the other is a boardgame. Why even make that comparison?

And why do people hate CMON so much?

I don't get the CMoN hate either.

As to Dust: there are some similarities to dust tactics, but the spawning and the movement with the grids is completely different. I mean, primarily the share theme and being played on a gridded board. That's about it.

 cincydooley wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


And why do people hate CMON so much?

I don't get the CMoN hate either.

Well years ago didnt they have that problem with that one group of people who had dodgy business practices? Unless I'm confusing companies up.

And perhaps the disgruntled Sedition Wars people

I'd say it's 'sufficiently large = evil' syndrome.

Regardless of the company, once they hit a certain size they are no longer considered a 'friendly, backwater, human-centric mom-and-pop organisation dedicated to customer happiness' and become the 'evil corporate over-tyrants stealing sweeties from children to fund their unsatiable greed'. And with that mindset anything they do is evil and should be done in a much nicer way...

 Leigen_Zero wrote:
I'd say it's 'sufficiently large = evil' syndrome

I have seen allegations that CMON are destroying 'Teds vision' to make a quick profit because they have become massive and greedy. From his frequent posts Ted seems to be very happy with the campaign and CMONs managment of his property.

Things picked up a little over night and the $230k stretch goal has now been met so both types of additional infantry are now unlocked.

Several people love the design of the miniatures but have a very big dislike for CMON (one was going on about how people should buy Dust rather then support Rivet Wars and was linking to Dust deals in online stores). A few people have bid $1 just to be able to troll the forum. A few people have bid $1 as they are interested in the model designs but not the game and are offering criticsm (some constructive, some not) on what it would take for them to buy the game. A couple of people are massive fans of the game and just post about how amazing the game is along with really bad suggestions as to how they would improve the game (adding aliens seems to be a recurring theme). Each of these groups also seems to hate each other and will use any excuse to start making personal attacks. Mods have been through the comment section now and deleted most of the offending posts, issued warnings and possibly banned some people so it doesn't seem so bad now. First time I have seen a comments page kick off that badly before!

Looks to me like some on the "entitelment bandwagon" and the other half shares in the "rabid fanboy movement" and the third group is the "bigger company must be evil rally"

What unites them ist the fact they are far from realistic. And sorry if I have to break it to them an destroy their dreams, but everyone in the gaming business is in it to make a profit. Else we could not design games. Without money it does not work. And who says otherwise is a liar.


Personally, I am on the fence regarding the rules and will probably wait until it shows up in normal retail and read the reviews. But there is no justification to act like this.

And as a person that is involved in the Dust Tactics/Warefare project I feel ashamed of fans of this games that seem it necessary to deride other games to make Dust shine. Dust would be better without such fans.

Aeneades wrote:
There have been quite a few early bird spots opening up today (6 that I have seen) which I don't really understand. If you liked something that much to get in there early but not happy with how things have turned out then why not wait until closer to the end of the campaign before backing out just in case the stretch goals change to more things you are interested in? (I know there are other reasons to back out but a lot of people who have stated it's because they were not happy with the stretch goals).

I did this for the Kingdom Death kickstarter. I jumped on one of the early bird specials to take advantage of the discount. I pledged based on my liking some of the miniatures shown. Once information came out about game play I realized it was not a game I was going to be interested in. I figured why wait until the end to back out? By doing it early I allowed someone else to jump in at the discount level earlier. There was no advantage to me for waiting until closer to the end, I knew I wasn't interested in the game.

Perhaps something similar happened with these folks. Perhaps they jumped in early based on something (maybe the minis or theme) and once they got more info decided this was not going to be what they wanted...

Jake

@Jake. In all honesty I did the exact same thing for the Kickstarter which I completely forgot I had done when typing that post. For me I was disapointed in the large number of expansions which were increasing the amount I was pledging over what I was willing to spend espeially after at and postage (I know the expansions are optional but being a collector I can't not get them all).

There's a real issue with folk looking at other CMON KS projecgts that have ended and thus reached loads of stretch goals.

The then look at the CMON project that's running as start shrieking that it's terrible value from day one as it does not have all the free stuff that the complete projects do

and they just don't seem to understand that the project has to add cash to add extra stuff s CMON is of cource evil incarnate

'Merica: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

Enough said. This is the world we now live in.

Well, sometimes the whole internet can be summed up in this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU9lv_WqK6k

$235k achieved and the Landkriegers are added to any Very tank purchase new stretch goals canine units - added to each Blitzkrieg set





Can also be bought for $20 for both of the above in one set

Update 13!

Edit: DaveC beat me!

Blitzkrieg! only purchases:

It is getting harder to resist this one...