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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/18 14:56:28
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - Plaster casting tut
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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dsteingass wrote:Haha- no tuna smells, but GenCon is famous for *some* gamers stinking up the place. The Crop Dusting/Mystery shopping is the worst. Really? you have to shiit yourself in this crowd? really?
what? did they invent the portable WC???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/18 15:01:08
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - Plaster casting tut
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Plaster stuff looks ace, Dave! The rock faces in particular are really inspiring - I've never seen someone do something on that scale with it. It looks so realistic as well - I almost want to climb it. Must weigh a ton though!
My favourite thing about working with dental plaster is that even the miscasts make perfect damaged structures
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/18 22:00:37
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - Plaster casting tut
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Viktor von Domm wrote:
what? did they invent the portable WC???
Sorry, I lost you there buddy..what?
Scarper wrote:Plaster stuff looks ace, Dave! The rock faces in particular are really inspiring - I've never seen someone do something on that scale with it. It looks so realistic as well - I almost want to climb it. Must weigh a ton though!
My favourite thing about working with dental plaster is that even the miscasts make perfect damaged structures 
Thanks Scarp! Ortho Plaster is slightly heavier than Dental plaster. A Dental building (based) weighing about 1 Lb might weigh 1.5 Lbs in Ortho, but it's not bad. A castle..now that would be really heavy.
Well, we're home from GenCon now. Thus begins the recovery phase. I'll have to sift through my loot bags and take some pics....I've got soo much cool stuff to show you
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GenCon Loot Drop!
The Best, FIRST!
The entire 84 color line of Badger Minitaire paints! A personal good deal from Ken "Badger" Schlotfeldt -He's a good guy!
RESIN!
These tire stacks and Jersey Barriers were super cheap at a booth that specialized in 15mm pirate ships and shipwrecks
Armorcast overhead pipes! I've wanted these for a VERY long time. I need more up-pipes still, but this is a LOT
MINIATURES!
(my #1 reason for going to GenCon every year)
New Warlord Games Apocalypse survivors and zombie sprues (men and women 30 in each box buy 4 boxes got two free along with more female zombie sprues- it was a great deal.
Gaunt's Ghosts set, Many OOP Praetorians
Including two pre-painted ones that I found as well.
This was in a clearance bin!! VERY Accurate sculpts of Zombieland Talahassee and Columbus! (I will have to scratch-build that banjo now, and convert that scale mail truck I found into a Hostess truck)
The cops and hostage figs are from Armorcast's new Mobocracy:Bodycount game.
Books!
Ladygeek had much more tonnage of loot in this category
Got the new Apoc book for $60 from TheWarStore, This great reprint of Dan Abnett's Titan Graphic Novel (from GW's booth), and the Infinity Artbook, the Mercenary chick figure in the minis pic was the free fig when you bought the book.
Not pictured: Board games Zombicide and Memoir '44
Ladygeek and I had a great time, but we're both exhausted in a really good way, overall an awesome time!
We went to shows, played games, ate good food, a great time!
I played in an 8 Hour Apocalypse game,
and WON with Guard (while my ally Space Marines Died a death fit for a Guardsman -muhaha) against a horde of Orks and Tau.
I continuously plinked an Ork Gargant with lascannon fire and good rolls and knocked out 10/14 Hull Points with that solid Guard firebase I dug in behind the bunker because they rolled a natural six for initiative.
Our Manticore was their first target, and they killed it in the first turn, along with a Space Marine Drop Pod and the Dreadnaught that stepped out of it.
We all kind of thought it was over for the Imperium.......in one turn!!
On turn #2
They called a WAAAGH and It was Very painful for my esteemed Space Marine ally
But the Guard dug in (even if it's right where they deployed  ) and not only repelled the WAAAGH on the right flank, then focused Pask and another Russ on the Gargant, but the Lascannons did the real damage to it.
My movement rolls sucked, but I rolled well when shooting. The Astropaths behind the Bastion all died of a Perils of the Warp roll I made, then their overseer executed them all because of my lousy rolling
As a distraction on the left flank, I brought in my sacrificial Ogryns from reserve, outflanking onto the board on their table corner
Our Baneblade came onto the table in the middle, and the juciness of that big tank target was too much for them after that
My Stormtroopers were also sacrificial , they deep striked (struck?) in front of my line, we killed their Battlewagon, and Trukk mob, leaving the right flank basically me vs. a Gargant and an Ork Boss with a zzap gun.
The zzap gun malfunctioned and drew him into my troops like the Aperature Physics gun in Portal  -A crazy, but Proper-Orky way for him to die though, you have to admit
-We laughed much
Creed was inside the Bastion, they all targeted our Bastion on their firing turn, obliterating it, and Creed and company too, including all the expensive advisors
Ghazkull's super mob took my Ogryn bait and turned around. The Ork Player rolled HUNDREDS- literally HUNDREDS of dice assaulting me into oblivion
But the distraction worked long enough to take out the Gargant, and most of the Orks with it,
and finally moved my 75% HW team (passed their rout test) 3 inches into the CRATER LEFT BY OUR BASTION to claim the objective and win.
It was a great game, because we all thought we had lost it on the first turn.
One guy on our team even quit and left the table (the guy who was running Creed, the Bastion, and the Manticore),but he was a whiney bitch anyways, loudly betting $20 that our line would fall and we got shafted, blah blah, blah.
but we pulled it off on victory points at about exactly 8 hrs (4 turns)... He never paid up on his bet, cause he left the game. What a prick.
Ladygeek went across the street to the hotel to sleep and took the camera with her, and I was having fun, so there were no more pics from in the late hours of the night.
The gaming areas are full of people and gaming 24 hours a day, they never ever stop. There is a game at GenCon for EVERYBODY
Here are some of the Tables that caught my eye
This is all laser-etched wood
Deepwars, a new Underwater skirmish game, fantastic miniatures.
This is the BEST Infinity board I've EVER seen.
I'll be reposting this over on Casey's Infinity Terrain blog as soon as I'm done typing and copying and pasting codes
Another Infinity board,near it house to house style
Bolt Action
Some Old Skool GorkaMorka action too
DUST- That's Mr. Paolo Parente himself in the white hair
Armory's new Mobocracy: Bodycount game
A Hirst Arts fort
There is really no way to get a picture from any angle of the dealer hall that shows its enormousity. I lose my sense of direction in it.
GW made an effort at their booth this year though
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 02:56:52
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - Plaster casting tut
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dsteingass wrote:Viktor von Domm wrote:
what? did they invent the portable WC???
Sorry, I lost you there buddy..what?
I think it was "Didn't they invent the portable WC?"
So many pics as well.
The terrain stuff there always seems to be good. And that giant spider thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 03:18:24
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Those pics look awesome!
Have you tried the minitaire paint? In your opinion is it less likely to clog that VMA line?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 03:20:11
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Nice haul Dave. I cant wait til I can figure out storage so I can order then play with the minitaire paints.
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 03:22:06
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes! I used the Minitaire on my Gangster dio a while back. but viscosity is something that you change with different needles and different techniques anyways, however, straight out of the bottle, they don't clog.
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Galorn wrote:Nice haul Dave. I cant wait til I can figure out storage so I can order then play with the minitaire paints.
Bamboo spice racks from WalMart
Garlon- get casting! set up a booth next year! I'll autograph Nuka Cola machines at your booth
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 03:27:25
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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dsteingass wrote:Yes! I used the Minitaire on my Gangster dio a while back. but viscosity is something that you change with different needles and different techniques anyways, however, straight out of the bottle, they don't clog.
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Galorn wrote:Nice haul Dave. I cant wait til I can figure out storage so I can order then play with the minitaire paints.
Bamboo spice racks from WalMart
Yah I need to measure my space to find out what will fit where...
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 04:58:51
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Great pics. Really glad you had a good time. Just wish there where events like this all over.
Can't wait to see some of that painted up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 11:51:01
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Nice haul dave  , looks like a fun time was had by all. Run into anyone from dakkadakka at the con. I saw lots of other posts, but yours was the first pics. Wish it was something I could fit into my schedule, but it was the first days of my kids school year  . Maybe in a couple years when they are more self sufficient ill be able to go. We have Archon coming up in October here. I haven't gone in sooooo long, but its nowhere near what you showed off.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 11:54:41
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Thanks! I only talked to Brian briefly, I never made it to The Brushfire booth to meet Alf, Lego, and Cy.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 14:38:26
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Thanks for the pics Dave! man that looks awesome fun! I've never seen so much Nerd in one room before :-) such beautiful tables and models everywhere!
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" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 14:43:11
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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 Nice haul.
and looks like a fun day(s) out. So much cool to gander at.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 15:28:55
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 15:36:33
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Thaniks Val That looks perfect, but I have to measure my workspace (there is a shelf that sticks out that I need to find out what the clearances are.)
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 16:19:26
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The whole set fits on two of these
9x10" $5 ea.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/19 22:02:41
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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How would you guys go about painting something to look like this?
Mine ren't looking so good. They looked really caked on. And Devlin Mud fails me in this instance. It looks great before I apply paint, but afterwards, not so good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 00:43:09
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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What is the height to the top of the highest bottle?
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 02:58:21
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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7 inches to clear the dropper bottle of retarder.
@Val- Black (or dk Brown) basecoat, then grey drybrushing. maybe some devlan later, but you need that dark shade.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 03:17:03
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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That's what I'm doing wrong. I primed them white.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 04:32:21
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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dsteingass wrote:7 inches to clear the dropper bottle of retarder.
@Val- Black (or dk Brown) basecoat, then grey drybrushing. maybe some devlan later, but you need that dark shade.
That Might fit... It's going to be tight though... I'll check once I get up.
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 05:16:10
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Im really digging that infinity board...are those home made laser-cut hdf board buildings? Or something MAS just developed and was showcasing? They certainly look near MAS quality. I can already see the variations you can set up and crazy number of configurations you can get out of having several of those. I love how the sidewalk bases 'clip' together with the drain grate in that one close-up photo.
I saw some pretty nice Infinity boards set up at KublaCon in May...I might have to dig up some photos and post them here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 11:33:22
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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I think that's Warmill stuff Fango.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 12:44:55
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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helllllooooo....that supply drop/ loot drop looks awesome...
I don´t know how you do it... that would leave me and the kids and my wife probably supplied in food and shelter for at least a month... at least....
but I envy you... so much cool stuff... the praetorians you can be sure of my envy
and lots of other stuff...the paints... my goodness... how many peeps get back to their homes like that packed like that?
also... since I think no one mentioned it...cool shirt dave!
and I can´t understand what it might feel like to play an eight hours game... ??? that is almost a full workday
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 12:50:07
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Thanks Vik! Everything I bought was a good deal..really it was. I didn't pay full retail for anything except the BL Graphic novel. The paints were an amazing deal at the con for $120, Amazon was giving them away at $140, but my previous promotional stuff I've done for Badger got me an even better deal  All the paints sold out, quickly
People walk out of that Dealer hall with giant bags of things every minute, but I have a wonderful other half that enables me
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 13:12:25
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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but I have a wonderful other half that enables me
I know.... she´s a keeper
frankly...it is quite a good deal that I live on the other side of the globe...so I atm be unable to attend to such devious financial devasting events
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 13:24:40
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That look slike a lot of fun, Dave. I hope to one day attend something like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 14:17:33
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Looking back through those awesome images I noticed I have inadvertently shaved my beard into the same style as Dave's  but mine connects to my hairline like a REAL beard
I'm still green with envy of that GenCon, I would love the oppertunity to attend something like that where everyone there is of a like mind and enjoys the same things! all thos tables are brilliant for inspiration especially the one made from entirely CNC workshop ruins!  it shows you CAN make wood look good! (there's a catch cry there for someone I know it!)
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" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 14:25:16
Subject: Re:Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Dave, not to steer you back to your airwaves, but I was at dollar general this morning and saw this
I hadn't seen them before with the choppers. One looks like a hind, the other is an apache from what I could tell. Not sure of h dimensions for vultures and vendettas, but these might be a cheap alternative.
I didn't pick one up, but might buy two this weekend when they have the coupon going. I know you made the jeep work for the catchans.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 17:29:13
Subject: Dave's new Hobby Adventure thread - GenCon recovery phase
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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@Damo- It's growing in now..I haven't shaved since then
@Theo- Those are different! I'll look for them on my next trip, thanks.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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